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05-02-2014 01:28 AM
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  1. RavenSword's Avatar
    So, I'm still undecided if I can fully commit to windows phone, and apps I'd the biggest thing. And its not even a matter of the apps coming to the store more as the apps getting continually updated. For example, Spotify hasn't been updated in months, slacker radio looks like it hasn't been touched in a year, and so on. So I'm really worried that devs are not going to update their apps.

    What do you guys think?
    04-20-2014 06:46 PM
  2. wpn00b's Avatar
    I believe that they will come to their senses soon. I'll stick with Windows Phone whether or not developers do, because I'm not missing any apps that I really need, and I've tried and loved new ones if I was missing app (for example, Runtastic since Nike Running is unavailable.)
    04-20-2014 06:51 PM
  3. jevans911's Avatar
    I believe that they will come to their senses soon. I'll stick with Windows Phone whether or not developers do, because I'm not missing any apps that I really need, and I've tried and loved new ones if I was missing app (for example, Runtastic since Nike Running is unavailable.)
    Same here. Windows phone is exactly the phone I've been waiting for after using Android and iPhones previously. The apps or similar enough apps, that I use are all available in the app store...
    04-20-2014 06:59 PM
  4. RavenSword's Avatar
    Same here. Windows phone is exactly the phone I've been waiting for after using Android and iPhones previously. The apps or similar enough apps, that I use are all available in the app store...
    What were the things the windows phone offered that try ge offers did not? Just curious
    04-20-2014 07:54 PM
  5. k0de's Avatar
    The apps are no longer a factor for me. They will come in either form original or third party.

    What does Window Phone offer different from other OSes?

    For me the deal sealer was the one ideology. I just love the idea that I will soon be able to sync all my data across all my devices.

    You should stick around the show has not belong yet.
    Last edited by k0de; 04-20-2014 at 09:02 PM.
    04-20-2014 08:11 PM
  6. Dexter505's Avatar
    Windows phone has been around for a while and I didn't even see an NBA game time app. All the apps are made for android and ios. I always hear available for ios and android. No mention of windows phone.

    Sent from my Surface Pro 2 using Tapatalk
    04-20-2014 08:25 PM
  7. RavenSword's Avatar
    The apps are no longer a factor for me. They will come in either form original or third party.

    What does Window Phone offer different from other OSes?

    For me the deal breaker was the one ideology. I just love the idea that I will soon be able to sync all my data across all my devices.

    You should stick around the show has not belong yet.
    Which devices do you use?
    04-20-2014 08:43 PM
  8. associatedpress's Avatar
    Whether or not it's a bad thing, whenever I hear or read about some app being available for any reason, I presume they don't mean windows phone. I search for what I need in the store, happy if it's there, move on if it's not. I look to Windows Phone Central to keep me abreast of new and important apps for the platform.

    Banking, social networks, tech news. Those are the apps I feel I really need. I will go as far as to support companies that support my platform choice. Left Farmers for GEICO because of no app(same monthly cost, I'm not that much of a fanatic LOL). Keep Chase cause they have an app and treat me well. Don't sign up for new social networks or services if no app is present. This last bit also has the side effect of helping me to not sign up for every new fad that comes out.
    04-20-2014 09:21 PM
  9. jevans911's Avatar
    What were the things the windows phone offered that try ge offers did not? Just curious
    I immediately fell in love with how fluid the OS was compared to my experience with android phones....also the live tiles seemed like such a revolutionary and innovative approach on a Mobile OS. it just seemed to me that Microsoft was taking a much more progressive stance than apple or android on their mobile OS...
    Last edited by jevans911; 05-03-2014 at 09:32 PM.
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    04-20-2014 09:23 PM
  10. k0de's Avatar
    Which devices do you use?
    I am on a NL 925 carrier t-mobile for eight months now. I came over from iOS after many years of iOS usage. And let me tell you the WP experience has been very impressive. I am here to stay.
    04-20-2014 09:30 PM
  11. associatedpress's Avatar
    Ok, looking at the original question again, I see my response is a bit indirect.

    No, for the foreseeable future I don't see the app support issue changing. I think the devs/companies that care for Windows Phone or have an internal culture of bringing dedicated apps to as many mobile OSes as possible will continue to update them regularly, eg: Rudy Huyn, Windows Phone Central, Lazy Worm apps, etc.

    For all the rest, until Windows Phone, at least in US for me is 1/3 of market share along side iOS and Android, they will see no fiscal sense in doing so. Working for a company that is in that same boat(apps for iOS and Android, not a single one for Windows Phone or blackberry for that matter), I can see both sides of the argument as much as it sucks. When I ask and that's regularly, it comes back to market share vs ROI.
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    04-20-2014 09:33 PM
  12. k0de's Avatar
    Ok, looking at the original question again, I see my response is a bit indirect.

    No, for the foreseeable future I don't see the app support issue changing. I think the devs/companies that care for Windows Phone or have an internal culture of bringing dedicated apps to as many mobile OSes as possible will continue to update them regularly, eg: Rudy Huyn, Windows Phone Central, Lazy Worm apps, etc.

    For all the rest, until Windows Phone, at least in US for me is 1/3 of market share along side iOS and Android, they will see no fiscal sense in doing so. Working for a company that is in that same boat(apps for iOS and Android, not a single one for Windows Phone or blackberry for that matter), I can see both sides of the argument as much as it sucks. When I ask and that's regularly, it comes back to market share vs ROI.
    True. But the sad truth is ROI does not equal Market share.

    I wish some devs for example Disney and Gameloft just to name a couple would comment on this.

    I'll bet that even with the small market share on WP their ROI is equal or perhaps better than iOS and Android.

    I could be wrong. But market share and ROI excuses don't convince me for dev not developing for WP.
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    04-20-2014 09:43 PM
  13. MARKjotep's Avatar
    yes. yes it will improve! ;) Remember when the store didnt have instagram. haha..
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    04-20-2014 09:48 PM
  14. Josef Alejandrino's Avatar
    I know the twitter and tumblr app is **** compared to ios and android and I sometims wonder if improvement will come. Atleast for instagram, they intentionally added "beta" to it to signal improvements will come and in the meantime we always have 6tag to use
    04-20-2014 10:44 PM
  15. bionicgt's Avatar
    This ecosystem far from perfect, the most you can do for a perfect ecosystem will be IF the apps are updated constantly, like people say... what's the point of just adding an app and not have the same support it does for other phones? LINE for example, I love that app to chat with friends and some geeks will say WHY DO YOU EVEN NEED STUPID STICKERS FOR? - Yet, I liked that on Android... now I have no support for buying stickers on WP ... same with Videocalling , it's not supported on WP... I love WP, and I have just switched to it like 2 months ago but I'm sick already lol...
    04-22-2014 01:14 PM
  16. Teague Kelley's Avatar
    I'd say yes.
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    04-26-2014 11:02 PM
  17. jevans911's Avatar
    I agree. With the formal release of wp8.1 I think we will see an uptick in production of apps from more mainstream developers...
    04-26-2014 11:05 PM
  18. Parishrut's Avatar
    Microsoft are going nowhere with WP8. They need to check out these forums. They need to check out Youtube for the awesome windows phone concepts people have put out there. They need to get the basics right. They need to listen to what people need.
    It is surprising to see there are SO many things that MOST of the people demand and have been always demanding out here, on the internet, and yet MS fail to listen.
    The app store is crap. The apps simply don't compare to their iOS and Android counterparts.
    Hell, it is only now that WP app store has started to have the basic applications, those too not up to the mark. The store itself is unattractive and a pain in the a** to navigate through, especially on the website. What about the NOT SO BASIC apps. When I say that I am not talking about useless flick the lighter applications.
    Example: Let's say I want a chess app with houdini on it. Is it there? NO!
    There are many other areas where a mobile can be a useful tool - but only if the apps are out there. WP doesn't have them.
    It is a long way to go before their app store it good enough.
    04-27-2014 12:29 PM
  19. prasath1234's Avatar
    Hey guys get a android or iPhone as backups.

    Sent from my C2305 using WPCentral Forums mobile app
    04-27-2014 12:41 PM
  20. associatedpress's Avatar
    True. But the sad truth is ROI does not equal Market share.

    I wish some devs for example Disney and Gameloft just to name a couple would comment on this.

    I'll bet that even with the small market share on WP their ROI is equal or perhaps better than iOS and Android.

    I could be wrong. But market share and ROI excuses don't convince me for dev not developing for WP.
    When I said ROI, I guess what I meant really is, they don't see a point in investing resources/time/money/etc into developing and creating the app when they look at the market overall for potential use of the OS/uncreated app in the single digits. So they brush it off at focus on the 80-90%

    It is possible creating the app(it's an investment banking firm) will cater to users who overall could generate comparable revenue to iOS and android users, but they aren't going to potentially waste resources in taking the first step to break the chicken and egg conundrum. Also that outcome is not likely.


    As an aside, as a windows phone user off and on(currently on with Lumia Icon on WP 8.1), its doubly frustrating when there's no mobile optimized website for something that has apps on some platforms but not windows phone. Desktop view is not always ideal/necessary.
    04-28-2014 02:32 AM
  21. Kimi Alin's Avatar
    Well it's certainly improving all the time >_> During my 920 journey since April 2013 I have seen brilliant unofficial instagram clien 6tag, official instagram, 6sec and vine, even snapchat via 6snap. Not mentioning these amazing photographty apps and brilliant Nokia apps. We don't have "official" youtube client but we have great mytube (and metrotube if you are more to that app) which is better than official apps on competing platforms. Of course I see app support will get better in the future as well! :D
    04-28-2014 06:05 AM
  22. bsbharath1987's Avatar
    It may not change much in the US. But in Asia, parts of Europe and Africa, where WP is the second best selling platform, it makes a lot of sense for developers to target WP. For example, in India we can see a lot of developers targetting WP over the past year. To me, a mobile platform's success depends as much on the local content as the availability of big ticket apps. Microsoft has taken a good decision of waiving the licence fee for manufacturers. They should do the same for developers too, so that they can target more devs from emerging markets.
    04-28-2014 09:22 AM
  23. prasath1234's Avatar
    Ya but still even in India Android rules I heard India is an android nation with 80% market share.

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    04-28-2014 10:20 AM
  24. jmshub's Avatar
    I think the app situation will continue to improve. Windows Phone's market share is improving, and is high enough in certain markets to justify Windows Phone apps. The SDK introduced in Build makes it easier than ever to build an app that is compatible with Windows and Windows Phone with little effort.
    04-28-2014 10:40 AM
  25. T1Cybernetic's Avatar
    The apps are no longer a factor for me. They will come in either form original or third party.

    What does Window Phone offer different from other OSes?

    For me the deal sealer was the one ideology. I just love the idea that I will soon be able to sync all my data across all my devices.

    You should stick around the show has not belong yet.
    Apps will come in time ;) The deciding factor above all the rest for me was having my account's in one place, Nokia devices have always been great for me too so having multiple account's available on one device that is also reliable is just perfect!
    04-28-2014 12:54 PM
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