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  1. dKp1977's Avatar
    It wouldn't have been if it was a month ago or a month after this month, believe me this is totally affecting the sales of 630 in a negative way.
    No doubt about that. But it's just one small thing that's affecting the sales of WP devices. Instagram wasn't available for ages, Kik has stopped supporting the platform over a year ago, there's still no official Pinterest app, decreasing support for XBL games and what not. There are so many rough edges that have to be polished, so many construction zones that have to be completed and so many improvements that still have to be made, that's it's plain ridiculous to focus on a single missing messenger app. Especially if we all know it's coming back sooner or later anyways.
    See, I don't complain that people care about it. I don't complain that people wonder and ask about it. What I actually DO complain about though is the gigantic fuzz that's been build around the entire situation. It's just exaggerated.

    How do you know? And how many weeks? 4, 8, 10? Exactly its not big in US and hence you guys thinks thats its not important anywhere, like I said, its a must have app in India, any os or phone new india, the first question you get, does it have whatsapp? Thats how important it is.
    I'm not from the US, I'm from Germany. ;)
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    05-30-2014 09:16 AM
  2. swapnil wajpe's Avatar
    No doubt about that. But it's just one small thing that's affecting the sales of WP devices. Instagram wasn't available for ages, Kik has stopped supporting the platform over a year ago, there's still no official Pinterest app, decreasing support for XBL games and what not. There are so many rough edges that have to be polished, so many construction zones that have to be completed and so many improvements that still have to be made, that's it's plain ridiculous to focus on a single missing messenger app. Especially if we all know it's coming back sooner or later anyways.
    See, I don't complain that people care about it. I don't complain that people wonder and ask about it. What I actually DO complain about though is the gigantic fuzz that's been build around the entire situation. It's just exaggerated.

    People in India cannot be without whatsapp even a single day, thats how much it has penetrated people's life. Plus we become the laughing stock for choosing WP instead of much more stable and established iOS and Android.
    05-30-2014 09:19 AM
  3. anon(5969054)'s Avatar
    No doubt about that. But it's just one small thing that's affecting the sales of WP devices. Instagram wasn't available for ages, Kik has stopped supporting the platform over a year ago, there's still no official Pinterest app, decreasing support for XBL games and what not. There are so many rough edges that have to be polished, so many construction zones that have to be completed and so many improvements that still have to be made, that's it's plain ridiculous to focus on a single missing messenger app. Especially if we all know it's coming back sooner or later anyways.
    See, I don't complain that people care about it. I don't complain that people wonder and ask about it. What I actually DO complain about though is the gigantic fuzz that's been build around the entire situation. It's just exaggerated.



    I'm not from the US, I'm from Germany. ;)
    I'm getting speechless with you. We do not need to hear from you the missing WhatsApp is not a big deal. Apparently to us it is. Can you PLEASE just exit? You won't ever understand.
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    05-30-2014 09:19 AM
  4. iamtim's Avatar
    I only wish people stopped complaining about other people complaining and start understanding their point of view and how one app is extremely important in their day to day life. I only wish people show support to those affected by this, and not throw stones at them.
    I get that. It's an extremely important app for a lot of people. I will never use WhatsApp - simply because of all the nonsense perpetrated in its name on these forums - but if suddenly SMS/MMS were taken from my phone I would be at a total loss.

    But support? No, no way, I'm sorry, I can't support a bunch of Veruca Salts crying out that the app - whose return has been promised by both Microsoft and the app developers themselves - isn't returning as fast as they'd like. The people complaining and starting Twitter hashtag "campaigns" have no idea what the actual problem is. They might know the *symptoms*, but they don't have any clue in the wide world what it will take to fix it. They've never seen the source code, they don't know how involved that source code is, and they don't know if it truly is a simple fix or a major rewrite of significant portions of code. They just don't know, they're complaining out of ignorance. Pure and simple ignorance. Oh, and entitlement, too.

    Here's something to think about: WhatsApp has released updates to the app in the past without pulling it from the store. If it were a simple fix, why wouldn't they just do what they've done before, make the quick fix, and update the app? The fact they pulled it from the store should be indicative that it's not just a simple, quick fix. The fact that Microsoft themselves is helping them should also be indicative that it's not just a simple, quick fix.

    So yeah, it sucks for the people who rely on it that it's not available right now. But I can't support this campaign and fully believe it's doing more damage, causing more frustration, and making things worse than doing anything else.
    05-30-2014 09:23 AM
  5. anon(5969054)'s Avatar
    I get that. It's an extremely important app for a lot of people. I will never use WhatsApp - simply because of all the nonsense perpetrated in its name on these forums - but if suddenly SMS/MMS were taken from my phone I would be at a total loss. This is how we feel without WhatsApp

    But support? No, no way, I'm sorry, I can't support a bunch of Veruca Salts crying out that the app - whose return has been promised by both Microsoft and the app developers themselves - isn't returning as fast as they'd like. The people complaining and starting Twitter hashtag "campaigns" have no idea what the actual problem is. They might know the *symptoms*, but they don't have any clue in the wide world what it will take to fix it. They've never seen the source code, they don't know how involved that source code is, and they don't know if it truly is a simple fix or a major rewrite of significant portions of code. They just don't know, they're complaining out of ignorance. Pure and simple ignorance. Oh, and entitlement, too.

    Here's something to think about: WhatsApp has released updates to the app in the past without pulling it from the store. If it were a simple fix, why wouldn't they just do what they've done before, make the quick fix, and update the app? The fact they pulled it from the store should be indicative that it's not just a simple, quick fix. The fact that Microsoft themselves is helping them should also be indicative that it's not just a simple, quick fix.

    So yeah, it sucks for the people who rely on it that it's not available right now. But I can't support this campaign and fully believe it's doing more damage, causing more frustration, and making things worse than doing anything else.
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    05-30-2014 09:25 AM
  6. iamtim's Avatar
    Unpublishing the app is like, as many others have said, cutting off an arm because of a finger ache.
    Unless the finger ache is really cancer which has spread throughout the entire arm and threatens the rest of the body.
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    05-30-2014 09:26 AM
  7. iamtim's Avatar
    I do not ever want to hear again from you ignorant people that we could use other messaging apps!! it is getting beyond annoying!
    You know... you could use another messaging app. There are many of them out there. Just saying.
    05-30-2014 09:27 AM
  8. dKp1977's Avatar
    I get that. It's an extremely important app for a lot of people. I will never use WhatsApp - simply because of all the nonsense perpetrated in its name on these forums - but if suddenly SMS/MMS were taken from my phone I would be at a total loss.

    But support? No, no way, I'm sorry, I can't support a bunch of Veruca Salts crying out that the app - whose return has been promised by both Microsoft and the app developers themselves - isn't returning as fast as they'd like. The people complaining and starting Twitter hashtag "campaigns" have no idea what the actual problem is. They might know the *symptoms*, but they don't have any clue in the wide world what it will take to fix it. They've never seen the source code, they don't know how involved that source code is, and they don't know if it truly is a simple fix or a major rewrite of significant portions of code. They just don't know, they're complaining out of ignorance. Pure and simple ignorance. Oh, and entitlement, too.

    Here's something to think about: WhatsApp has released updates to the app in the past without pulling it from the store. If it were a simple fix, why wouldn't they just do what they've done before, make the quick fix, and update the app? The fact they pulled it from the store should be indicative that it's not just a simple, quick fix. The fact that Microsoft themselves is helping them should also be indicative that it's not just a simple, quick fix.

    So yeah, it sucks for the people who rely on it that it's not available right now. But I can't support this campaign and fully believe it's doing more damage, causing more frustration, and making things worse than doing anything else.
    Couldn't have been said any better. +1000! Unfortunately, the majority of people around here won't understand a single word anyways.
    05-30-2014 09:27 AM
  9. Ebuka Allison's Avatar
    Unless the finger ache is really cancer which has spread throughout the entire arm and threatens the rest of the body.
    Then the tumor is excised and a new arm is delivered by an update in the app store...wait I got mixed up.
    05-30-2014 09:29 AM
  10. Ebuka Allison's Avatar
    You know... you could use another messaging app. There are many of them out there. Just saying.
    The issue is, 99% of people use Whatsapp. It's like the Facebook and Twitter of messaging apps combined. Saying you can use another social network is true, but besides the flipping point.
    05-30-2014 09:30 AM
  11. iamtim's Avatar
    How does that affect Windows Phone 8.1 and,7.X. Use your brain....
    I don't know.

    But here's the important part: EITHER DO YOU. No one knows aside of the WhatsApp developers. And if they believe that the problems warrant removal from the store - as opposed to a quick update like they've done in the past - that should be telling you something. Maybe the problem is much bigger than any of you #BringBackWhatsApp'ers realize.

    Maybe you should use your brain, engage whatever critical thinking skills are floating around in your soupy gray matter.
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    05-30-2014 09:31 AM
  12. iamtim's Avatar
    This is how we feel without WhatsApp
    Excellent job at missing the entire point of my post. Bravo. :D
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    05-30-2014 09:33 AM
  13. swapnil wajpe's Avatar
    I get that. It's an extremely important app for a lot of people. I will never use WhatsApp - simply because of all the nonsense perpetrated in its name on these forums - but if suddenly SMS/MMS were taken from my phone I would be at a total loss.



    But support? No, no way, I'm sorry, I can't support a bunch of Veruca Salts crying out that the app - whose return has been promised by both Microsoft and the app developers themselves - isn't returning as fast as they'd like. The people complaining and starting Twitter hashtag "campaigns" have no idea what the actual problem is. They might know the *symptoms*, but they don't have any clue in the wide world what it will take to fix it. They've never seen the source code, they don't know how involved that source code is, and they don't know if it truly is a simple fix or a major rewrite of significant portions of code. They just don't know, they're complaining out of ignorance. Pure and simple ignorance. Oh, and entitlement, too.



    Here's something to think about: WhatsApp has released updates to the app in the past without pulling it from the store. If it were a simple fix, why wouldn't they just do what they've done before, make the quick fix, and update the app? The fact they pulled it from the store should be indicative that it's not just a simple, quick fix. The fact that Microsoft themselves is helping them should also be indicative that it's not just a simple, quick fix.



    So yeah, it sucks for the people who rely on it that it's not available right now. But I can't support this campaign and fully believe it's doing more damage, causing more frustration, and making things worse than doing anything else.

    The reason for doing this campaign is not to whine, but to be vocal, to show that there are more WP users than what meets the eye, to show that we won't be given a third grade treatment. Remove whatsapp from playstore or apple store, you will see and twitter campaign within 24hrs, while we WP lot have been patient and understanding to give 2 weeks to whatsapp to fix their software, as we know, neither WP nor whatsapp for WP are fully matured.

    So join or leave, as you said you can't join, then you may leave and let the people do they want.
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    05-30-2014 09:35 AM
  14. iamtim's Avatar
    Then the tumor is excised
    EXACTLY.

    A tumor is a much bigger issue than a simple finger ache. If this were a simple finger ache, I'm sure WhatsApp would just massage the finger and send the patient home (i.e. issue a quick app update). But it's evidently not the case, as the WhatsApp app has been whisked off to surgery (i.e. pulled from the store) where they're excising the tumor. After the patient recovers and is given a clean bill of health, they'll be sent home (i.e. back to the app store).
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    05-30-2014 09:36 AM
  15. Ebuka Allison's Avatar
    The issue is, it seems like its not an app problem but a business deal or something. I don't know, but do you remember Joe Belfiore saying that the app is a problem,with GDR 3 and that 8.1 uses a different notification,core. I sure do. If Mr. JB has spoken, then either you are saying he doesn't know what he's talking about or you don't care and,just want people to stop badgering you. I'm pretty sure what everyone here wants is some acknowledgment and an official timeline. Including me. Now, please, get lost.
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    05-30-2014 09:38 AM
  16. anon(5969054)'s Avatar
    The reason for doing this campaign is not to whine, but to be vocal, to show that there are more WP users than what meets the eye, to show that we won't be given a third grade treatment. Remove whatsapp from playstore or apple store, you will see and twitter campaign within 24hrs, while we WP lot have been patient and understanding to give 2 weeks to whatsapp to fix their software, as we know, neither WP nor whatsapp for WP are fully matured.

    So join or leave, as you said you can't join, then you may leave and let the people do they want.
    Hallelujah.
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    05-30-2014 09:38 AM
  17. Jas00555's Avatar
    The reason for doing this campaign is not to whine, but to be vocal, to show that there are more WP users than what meets the eye, to show that we won't be given a third grade treatment. Remove whatsapp from playstore or apple store, you will see and twitter campaign within 24hrs, while we WP lot have been patient and understanding to give 2 weeks to whatsapp to fix their software, as we know, neither WP nor whatsapp for WP are fully matured.

    So join or leave, as you said you can't join, then you may leave and let the people do they want.
    I'm pretty sure that Whatsapp is 100% aware of Windows phone. They even have a BB10 and hell, I think they're on Asha too.

    Also, would everyone stop tweeting Tom Warren and Daniel Rubino. They block your tweets when you use that hashtag.
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    05-30-2014 09:38 AM
  18. Ebuka Allison's Avatar
    EXACTLY.

    A tumor is a much bigger issue than a simple finger ache. If this were a simple finger ache, I'm sure WhatsApp would just massage the finger and send the patient home (i.e. issue a quick app update). But it's evidently not the case, as the WhatsApp app has been whisked off to surgery (i.e. pulled from the store) where they're excising the tumor. After the patient recovers and is given a clean bill of health, they'll be sent home (i.e. back to the app store).
    I'm pretty sure,doctors don't go, OMG lung cancer, time to cut out the lungs...(pull from store). Instead, they use therapy and surgery (updates) to fix.
    05-30-2014 09:40 AM
  19. iamtim's Avatar
    The reason for doing this campaign is not to whine, but to be vocal, to show that there are more WP users than what meets the eye
    Do you honestly believe that WhatsApp doesn't already know exactly how many WP users they have? Do you honestly believe that the only way they'll know is by a Twitter campaign which takes their attention AWAY from fixing the problem?

    They couldn't, you know, be checking the server and usage logs, and already have that exact information? They couldn't, you know, have made the decision to pull the app fully knowing how many WP users they have and believing it to be the right decision?

    So join or leave, as you said you can't join, then you may leave and let the people do they want.
    I can't leave, sorry. I want WP to succeed. But I firmly believe this campaign is doing more damage than it is helping.
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    05-30-2014 09:43 AM
  20. patrikmore's Avatar
    You know... you could use another messaging app. There are many of them out there. Just saying.
    In the same way, we can force everybody around us to buy a windows phone....
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    05-30-2014 09:45 AM
  21. swapnil wajpe's Avatar
    EXACTLY.

    A tumor is a much bigger issue than a simple finger ache. If this were a simple finger ache, I'm sure WhatsApp would just massage the finger and send the patient home (i.e. issue a quick app update). But it's evidently not the case, as the WhatsApp app has been whisked off to surgery (i.e. pulled from the store) where they're excising the tumor. After the patient recovers and is given a clean bill of health, they'll be sent home (i.e. back to the app store).

    You seem assume many things, given the track record of apps appearing on WP, I wouldn't trust the surgeons.
    05-30-2014 09:48 AM
  22. anon(5969054)'s Avatar
    I'm pretty sure that Whatsapp is 100% aware of Windows phone. They even have a BB10 and hell, I think they're on Asha too.

    Also, would everyone stop tweeting Tom Warren and Daniel Rubino. They block your tweets when you use that hashtag.
    Indeed, they are removing the tweets.. omg insane.. speechless how they ignore us..
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    05-30-2014 09:51 AM
  23. swapnil wajpe's Avatar
    Do you honestly believe that WhatsApp doesn't already know exactly how many WP users they have? Do you honestly believe that the only way they'll know is by a Twitter campaign which takes their attention AWAY from fixing the problem?

    They couldn't, you know, be checking the server and usage logs, and already have that exact information? They couldn't, you know, have made the decision to pull the app fully knowing how many WP users they have and believing it to be the right decision?



    I can't leave, sorry. I want WP to succeed. But I firmly believe this campaign is doing more damage than it is helping.

    Oh they do know, but they need to be reminded that we won't be treated like a third class citizen even if WP is on 3rd rank. They purpose of this campaign is to unite all WP users against this kind of treatment irrespective of whether they use whatsapp or not
    05-30-2014 09:53 AM
  24. iamtim's Avatar
    You seem assume many things, given the track record of apps appearing on WP, I wouldn't trust the surgeons.
    I'm not making any assumptions. I don't know why the app was pulled any more than does anyone else. I'm just counseling that there might be a very good reason that it was pulled, and that running around screaming for it to be put back seems a little counter-productive.

    A question for you, following the whole doctor/patient analogy: you don't trust the surgeons (WhatsApp), yet you're willing to scream to the heavens for their services and rely on them as your primary health care (IM) providers? That seems a little odd, doesn't it? If you don't trust them to make the right decisions with their app and their service, why would you rely on them so heavily?
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    05-30-2014 09:58 AM
  25. imranjazib's Avatar
    **** WhatsApp. Move on. Switch to telegram.
    05-30-2014 10:00 AM
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