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  1. colinkiama's Avatar
    Seriously, Microsoft? Why don't u have a "Report a problem with this app" button on your store?
    There is one. It's usually underlined and says report to microsoft or something like that.
    07-28-2014 04:46 AM
  2. colinkiama's Avatar
    Microsoft uses these forums too for user feedback.
    haha says who?
    07-28-2014 04:48 AM
  3. colinkiama's Avatar
    You are missing the point

    Almost all recent apps from MS are laggy.
    Take an example Xbox apps.
    How many months since these apps are released but still offer laagy users experience .
    What message these laggy apps send in market that MS who made WP not able to make it's core OS apps smooth in four months.

    And now they added one more app in this list.
    How do you know that this app is not going share similar fate as Xbox apps?
    The new Xbox 8.1 apps have been available sine may when the developers preview was released. So 2 months.

    And If you've used Rudy's apps (6tag,6snap,6tag,6tin) you'll know that he's a dedicated WP developer. He won't abandon the app. He even said that he was going to fix it on twitter.

    But Xbox is a different story. We have no idea how to contact the devs of the apps and even the biweekly updates haven't fixed much.
    07-28-2014 04:51 AM
  4. Vitor Salvatore Pierce's Avatar
    The new Xbox 8.1 apps have been available sine may when the developers preview was released. So 2 months.

    And If you've used Rudy's apps (6tag,6snap,6tag,6tin) you'll know that he's a dedicated WP developer. He won't abandon the app. He even said that he was going to fix it on twitter.

    But Xbox is a different story. We have no idea how to contact the devs of the apps and even the biweekly updates haven't fixed much.
    Xbox Music and Video was released 12/18/2013. See here:
    Microsoft publishes Xbox Music app for Windows Phone 8, focused on the cloud | Windows Phone Central
    Microsoft releases Xbox Video app for Windows Phone 8 | Windows Phone Central
    Xbox Music and Video apps for Windows Phone 8 hands on | Windows Phone Central
    07-28-2014 05:29 AM
  5. xxxneoxxx's Avatar
    Nice. Just posted this on the frontpage:
    Lol, everything we get from MS lately is labeled BETA. Nice way to get away with bugs. Everything released to the general public by MS is beta at the moment. It is nice tho. You try to give feedback on forums or whatever, and you get troutslapped by users screaming at you that u should be thankfull you are even getting stuff and u should keep it shut cause it's beta.
    Applies so much to this topic, haha
    07-28-2014 05:59 AM
  6. Great deal's Avatar
    haha says who?
    Like all large companies MS uses Big Data, they gather every single tweet, all forum messages with key words in sentences eg "Cortana" "problem" "rubbish" etc etc and compare to product releases, changes, announcements, to get an overall picture of how the world is reacting. The marketing, promotions and sales teams then use this information to plan sell to us. Apple have a great system already in place whereas MS is building and refining theirs, its very complex and costs hundreds of millions and takes time to do. The Nokia devices arm 100% uses Teradata as a platform (one of my companies supplied experts in this field to them) and there will of course be employees watching forums to see reactions as well.
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    07-28-2014 06:23 AM
  7. sejgiul's Avatar
    Meanwhile, at Microsoft HQ;

    Person 1: "Perhaps now is the time to tell everyone Windows Phone itself has been a beta all along..."
    Person 2: "I thought WP7 was the beta?"
    Person 1: "No, that was alpha!"
    07-28-2014 06:28 AM
  8. quantum tao's Avatar
    Life is one big beta, Alpha, whatever you want to call it. Nothing is ever really final.
    07-28-2014 06:40 AM
  9. roni09riku's Avatar
    I was expecting something good with the lock screen app. I got really disappointed because there is little difference to the default lock screen. Finally decided to uninstall it when I saw the stars as icons.
    07-28-2014 06:41 AM
  10. AaHaa's Avatar
    Any developers here? I am, and I fully empathise with the developers of this app. Developing things like this can take tons and tons of time. I think Microsoft just couldn't push the release any further because of the hype and went with the build they had. I think Rudy and the Windows Phone team are doing the very best they can and I think it's unfair to bash them without knowing the full situation.
    07-28-2014 07:32 AM
  11. xxxneoxxx's Avatar
    Life is one big beta, Alpha, whatever you want to call it. Nothing is ever really final.
    Hopefully less buggy though.
    07-28-2014 07:52 AM
  12. iyae's Avatar
    Xbox Music and videos are not laggy any more. They work fluently on my 1520.
    Bull****. Xbox music is slow as hell. You clearly don't have a large cloud collection. Takes about 30 seconds after I tap a letter to load the artists under that letter. Sometimes longer.
    07-28-2014 07:57 AM
  13. Great deal's Avatar
    Any developers here? I am, and I fully empathise with the developers of this app. Developing things like this can take tons and tons of time. I think Microsoft just couldn't push the release any further because of the hype and went with the build they had. I think Rudy and the Windows Phone team are doing the very best they can and I think it's unfair to bash them without knowing the full situation.
    Lesson to be learnt is that if your a great developer with a great reputation the one way to ruin that is to be associated with MS on Beta release apps. We know Rudy as a great dev, the general public who don't will see his name against an app that's crap, however unfair, that's the reality.
    07-28-2014 07:58 AM
  14. iyae's Avatar
    Lesson to be learnt is that if your a great developer with a great reputation the one way to ruin that is to be associated with MS on Beta release apps. We know Rudy as a great dev, the general public who don't will see his name against an app that's crap, however unfair, that's the reality.
    No. Lesson to be learned is its a beta and people need to realise that and stop being self entitled pricks. Just sayin' :P
    07-28-2014 08:01 AM
  15. Great deal's Avatar
    No. Lesson to be learned is its a beta and people need to realise that and stop being self entitled pricks. Just sayin' :P
    Its clear that's not going to happen and is not reality however much people want that to be true, it just aint.
    07-28-2014 08:17 AM
  16. anon(5969054)'s Avatar
    No. Lesson to be learned is its a beta and people need to realise that and stop being self entitled pricks. Just sayin' :P
    Okay let's say we wave all problems and complaints away with 'okay it is beta', then I guess we are allowed to complain about the endless waiting for an official or decent functioning version?

    So far all these so called beta things aren't getting out of beta or there is no hope given for improvement.

    I mean who the hell knows when WP users will get an acceptable music experience? Maybe a decent lock screen app in 2015? Maybe a decent Facebook app in 2018?

    Some day we will get tired of waiting and tired of the beta tag.

    Maybe they should learn to not create a hype and then tweet out load for everyone to download the beta.
    Maybe they should not tease this stuff at a grand event like BUILD, while they are not even sure they can deliver.

    Beta releases are becoming so common, that every single new products is first released as a beta.
    Painkillerhu and xxxneoxxx like this.
    07-28-2014 11:34 AM
  17. AngrySprintUser's Avatar
    I love how people are complaining here as if this is microsoft's official forums.
    I sort of agree with your premise. As much as people have a place to complain, I do think that a lot of our complaints would be best served directly to the carriers or MS then on WPCentral.
    07-28-2014 12:05 PM
  18. sejgiul's Avatar
    Lesson to be learnt is that if your a great developer with a great reputation the one way to ruin that is to be associated with MS on Beta release apps. We know Rudy as a great dev, the general public who don't will see his name against an app that's crap, however unfair, that's the reality.

    To be honest, that guy is as hyped up as this app. Yes, he's been supportive of wp, but his apps aren't that great. Good, but not great. I've seen other devs make better apps.
    07-28-2014 04:33 PM
  19. chezm's Avatar
    Agreed, the lackscreen app in my opinion is pretty bad. The animations aren't smooth, or as fluid as the standard...the movement is just odd and doesnt feel right.
    07-28-2014 04:51 PM
  20. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    This thread had run its course.
    07-28-2014 05:32 PM
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