12-07-2015 03:48 AM
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  1. honda accord 99's Avatar
    Since we update to w10, Here Drive app is not available in windows store.
    The same for Here Maps also not available.
    In some lumia phones,both apps are coming with the windows 10 and you won't download them from store. but in some phones like 920, the both apps are not listed, even in the store.
    Sorry for bad english
    09-12-2015 04:19 PM
  2. robw70's Avatar
    This is one reason I rolled back to WP8.1 . Very disappointing it wasn't there. It's one of the main reasons for having a WP for me.
    09-13-2015 06:56 AM
  3. mestari's Avatar
    This is one reason I rolled back to WP8.1 . Very disappointing it wasn't there. It's one of the main reasons for having a WP for me.
    That and Lumia camera
    09-14-2015 12:23 PM
  4. ajj3085's Avatar
    Since we update to w10, Here Drive app is not available in windows store.
    The same for Here Maps also not available.
    In some lumia phones,both apps are coming with the windows 10 and you won't download them from store. but in some phones like 920, the both apps are not listed, even in the store.
    Sorry for bad english
    I stilo have here maps, drive, city lens, and transit. I actually found multiple listings for some of them in the store so I just downloaded the one that said i owned.

    I have a 920 and am in the us.
    stevesu likes this.
    09-14-2015 05:54 PM
  5. fdruid's Avatar
    Weird, I just noticed, I don't have Drive, or City Lens either. Have they been retired?
    09-15-2015 03:03 PM
  6. gwinegarden's Avatar
    I'm on the verge of going 10, but I won't until I am sure I won't lose these apps.
    09-15-2015 03:24 PM
  7. mxzhonkey's Avatar
    I put 10m on my 640 last night then did a hard reset. Both Here Drive and Here maps, downloaded in the store shortly after that. Go into store, menu, My Library, show all next to apps. It should be on that list. I would check there. It lists it as not available for my device but it definitely is, and usable.
    09-15-2015 03:38 PM
  8. mhc48's Avatar
    Maps now takes the place of all the Here apps I used before and now all the functions are in one place.
    09-15-2015 04:38 PM
  9. michail71's Avatar
    It takes the place but arguments can be made it's lacking in comparison.
    09-15-2015 04:43 PM
  10. gwinegarden's Avatar
    Maps now takes the place of all the Here apps I used before and now all the functions are in one place.
    Doesn't matter. I own the Here apps so I should be able to use them.
    Varun Rajan likes this.
    09-16-2015 08:07 AM
  11. grazy1982's Avatar
    It updates ok, when updates are available.

    Even after hard reset. If installed by default they should be there and update fine. I agree though I would be concerned if they were uninstalled as I wouldn't be able to get them back

    I did email here a while ago and they are aware of this and hope they will update soon
    09-16-2015 02:28 PM
  12. mestari's Avatar
    Doesn't matter. I own the Here apps so I should be able to use them.
    My thoughts exactly
    09-16-2015 03:12 PM
  13. mhc48's Avatar
    Weren't they ..ahem...free?. Meaning Nokia didn't sell them to you, but licensed them to you, or more properly probably, licensed them to its then owner, Microsoft which in turn licensed to you to download and use in its then Windows mobile product.

    And which, with Microsoft now no longer owning Nokia, is probably no longer the case and Nokia took the Here programs with them, perhaps to sell in the future. Microsoft probably still owns the right to use and develop the technology etc. as it sees fit, which it has by again licensing to you to use in Maps with Windows 10 mobile.

    I'm not sure how you can feel aggrieved by that or that you lost something you "owned".
    09-16-2015 04:12 PM
  14. michail71's Avatar
    Perhaps, but it was part of the platform he bought into. It also points to an issue many people have with software as a service. You own nothing and what you have can be taken away.

    In products I develop I always make sure existing functionality is included or significantly improved with new versions. MS has a habit of just killing things off. Being that way with my own stuff often makes me scratch my head at some of the decisions MS has been making
    09-17-2015 07:11 AM
  15. afgzee's Avatar
    Both apps have always been available in the store for me in all wm10 builds.
    09-17-2015 07:19 AM
  16. gwinegarden's Avatar
    Weren't they ..ahem...free?. Meaning Nokia didn't sell them to you, but licensed them to you, or more properly probably, licensed them to its then owner, Microsoft which in turn licensed to you to download and use in its then Windows mobile product.

    And which, with Microsoft now no longer owning Nokia, is probably no longer the case and Nokia took the Here programs with them, perhaps to sell in the future. Microsoft probably still owns the right to use and develop the technology etc. as it sees fit, which it has by again licensing to you to use in Maps with Windows 10 mobile.

    I'm not sure how you can feel aggrieved by that or that you lost something you "owned".
    By virtue of buying a Nokia phone, I "bought" the apps which, at that time, were bundled in and only available on Lumias. Are you saying that you do not "own" a copy of you OS? Are you saying that you do not own a license for Office, on your phone?
    09-17-2015 08:21 AM
  17. mhc48's Avatar
    By virtue of buying a Nokia phone, I "bought" the apps which, at that time, were bundled in and only available on Lumias. Are you saying that you do not "own" a copy of you OS? Are you saying that you do not own a license for Office, on your phone?
    Well, the OS and Office were bundled into Lumia phones. The Here applications were not had to be downloaded. Admittedly it may not have been clear to you/us the extent of the license being granted when we downloaded them (it rarely is). But it was, I'm pretty sure, a license. And in fact, if I recall correctly, The Nokia "Here" app was originally called Here Beta. And as such we were given the opportunity to use it subject to whatever changes were made in the final, or to it not being continued, upgraded or later even made available.

    And that's the clear model now being used by MS in one year subscriptions to Office and Windows 10 for PCs.

    It used to be in the past that if you volunteered to beta test a program or app the developer would often give you a free copy when it finally came out as a sort of thanks and in hopes of you using and talking it up to others. But there were times I beta tested programs and still had to buy the final or a later upgrade.
    09-17-2015 11:19 AM
  18. gwinegarden's Avatar
    When you download an app, regardless of its price, you own it. I worked for two of the biggest hardware/software companies, in the world for over 30 years. Bundling does not mean it is included when you receive it, that's what bloatware is all about.
    09-17-2015 02:01 PM
  19. nmercy's Avatar
    The Here apps work fine in W10m, the problem is if you lose them somehow then they can't be reinstalled for many people.

    They will probably need an update from Nokia (highly unlikely at this point) to be downloadable again.

    The good news is that the built in maps looks like it will try to solidly take Here's place, but not quite a replacement yet. This is something that needs to be in place when W10m launches otherwise it will be a huge blow to WP's everywhere and probably cause many people to switch.
    honda accord 99 likes this.
    09-17-2015 07:58 PM
  20. Tien-Lin Chang's Avatar
    Well, I put w10m TP on my ATIV S and I still keep the Here Drive+ and Here Map.

    Maybe you can try to reset your phone after updated to w10m TP, that might help.
    honda accord 99 likes this.
    09-17-2015 09:18 PM
  21. mestari's Avatar
    Well, the OS and Office were bundled into Lumia phones. The Here applications were not had to be downloaded. Admittedly it may not have been clear to you/us the extent of the license being granted when we downloaded them (it rarely is). But it was, I'm pretty sure, a license. And in fact, if I recall correctly, The Nokia "Here" app was originally called Here Beta. And as such we were given the opportunity to use it subject to whatever changes were made in the final, or to it not being continued, upgraded or later even made available.

    And that's the clear model now being used by MS in one year subscriptions to Office and Windows 10 for PCs.

    It used to be in the past that if you volunteered to beta test a program or app the developer would often give you a free copy when it finally came out as a sort of thanks and in hopes of you using and talking it up to others. But there were times I beta tested programs and still had to buy the final or a later upgrade.
    Not true, at least in my case. The Here applications were pre-installed on my lumia 1020 and even in the retail box there is a Here logo. I tried hard resetting win10m and here maps are still there. Might not be the case with other countries/carriers though.
    09-18-2015 12:27 PM
  22. mestari's Avatar
    ...and if i remember correctly, even my wp7.5 lumia 800 had here maps pre-installed.
    09-18-2015 12:30 PM
  23. honda accord 99's Avatar
    Weird, I just noticed, I don't have Drive, or City Lens either. Have they been retired?
    No, but if you open the store and from the list you can choose My Library, you can see all the apps you installed from the first lumia you bought , then scroll down to see what are the apps that doesn't work on your device.
    09-18-2015 02:15 PM
  24. costas60's Avatar
    I read somewhere if you update
    from W8.1 you keep maps
    some have trouble going from 512
    I upgraded from 8.1 and maps still work as before
    09-19-2015 04:14 AM
  25. Francis Amar Singh's Avatar
    It's been installing here drive and here maps only after the windows 10 is installed... not with the OS

    Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk
    09-20-2015 02:34 AM
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