1. Michael Zedalis's Avatar
    With the DUO being pushed as a "surface" and being told it is not a phone, it makes no sense to have it only support android and not 10x. Just listened to the latest podcast and am surprised that you guys dont support any Windows OS implementation at all. The Surface line itself dosent have a huge app store so why continue that then? It is NOT a Surface. I have used android for years and honestly what apps are so important that android needs to be used? Most are free and not that good. My android mainly has the microsoft apps which can be implemented on 10x. Do you really think that this phone is going to sell more with android vs 10x?
    10-13-2019 11:52 PM
  2. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Sigh.

    First off, Windows 10X is Windows, as in it runs Windows PC apps as well. Currently all the other Surface products run Windows 10. So full PC apps. The Store is not the thing to go by if you want to talk apps for Windows. Not many people use tablet mode on Windows 10 as it's a dog breakfast.

    As for suggesting your personal experience is anything to go by as to what apps people feel are important is going on a statistical basis of ONE. When comparing that to the billion plus users on Android is rather pointless.

    The Surface Duo is a phone, they never said it wasn't. They said it was 'more than a phone', which suggests they have some things on it they haven't mentioned yet.

    As for you last question. Will it sell more with Android? Most likely. The very small percentage of Windows users who would buy this with Windows 10X is outweighed by the possibilities of having a larger user base with Android.

    Lastly, keep an open mind. This device is going to be the most integrated Android device with Windows. We don't really know what they're up to and anything would just be speculation.
    10-14-2019 02:08 AM
  3. Jamie Brahm's Avatar
    Sigh.

    First off, Windows 10X is Windows, as in it runs Windows PC apps as well. Currently all the other Surface products run Windows 10. So full PC apps. The Store is not the thing to go by if you want to talk apps for Windows. Not many people use tablet mode on Windows 10 as it's a dog breakfast.

    As for suggesting your personal experience is anything to go by as to what apps people feel are important is going on a statistical basis of ONE. When comparing that to the billion plus users on Android is rather pointless.

    The Surface Duo is a phone, they never said it wasn't. They said it was 'more than a phone', which suggests they have some things on it they haven't mentioned yet.

    As for you last question. Will it sell more with Android? Most likely. The very small percentage of Windows users who would buy this with Windows 10X is outweighed by the possibilities of having a larger user base with Android.

    Lastly, keep an open mind. This device is going to be the most integrated Android device with Windows. We don't really know what they're up to and anything would just be speculation.
    Yeah but, what exactly is the benefit to Microsoft beyond just selling another device, or a few mobile service users? With the neo, you can see it's part of a broader strategy, an attempt to wittle windows down to an all touch form factor, potentially grow UWP, and create OEM devices with similar forms. You can see the larger potential pay offs with that.

    What's the larger pay off in 'just another android device'?
    10-14-2019 09:55 PM
  4. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    What's the larger pay off in 'just another android device'?

    We don't know the details of this device so to suggest it's 'just another Android device' is not correct.

    MS and Google both worked on this OS and it appears MS will be able to put some extra things in it for their own purposes. So it wont't be 'just another Android device'.

    At the end of the day, MS wants people to use their services. They realised that entering the market at this stage with a product that has ZERO apps is rather pointless. It will gain virtually no traction and it's become painfully obvious that the vast majority of people using mobile devices will use mobile apps. Not PC apps.

    Saying that, it doesn't mean that MS isn't going to possibly do something to integrate this device more with Windows. We don't know that for sure (though seems likely) and we don't know exactly what that will look like.

    So what benefit does MS get out of this? They get a mobile phone out there with their services on it and hope that people will like the experience. They're not out to sell millions of these things. That's pretty obvious. It isn't going to be for everyone and it won't be affordable for everyone.
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    10-15-2019 02:01 AM
  5. Jcmg62's Avatar
    Is it a bird? Is it a plane? Yeah, nah, it runs Android, it's a phone.

    And a pretty darn good looking one at that
    10-15-2019 11:41 AM
  6. rodneyej's Avatar
    Please join our Surface Duo Facebook Group!
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/397641020931176/
    10-16-2019 11:02 AM

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