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  1. MDMcAtee's Avatar
    But one thing is fact IPHONE get Boring after few months because we can't change anything
    Boring,unable to change anything?

    Hmm...letmesee...wrong and wrong on both accounts.

    Ever hear about jail breaking...there is plenty to change with them...as too boring,well,different strokes for different folks,but you have to define what exactly is boring about it...

    As to what someone else said about it's camera,it's a lot better for some folks,and takes some nice pictures.

    It's obviously apparent some folks love to hate anything that isn't Windows and look for reasons to express their biases.

    The new iPhones will be excellent phones,and their apps fully polished and their music and video player blows anything WP has out of the water...and they have alot more...Sigh...if our phones were as good,that would be 1 thing,but come on...they aren't and if folks wanted to be brutally honest these rabid WP fanatics would not be said.

    The only thing WP has over them is price....and screen size right now,and screen size won't be a factor in a few months.
    07-09-2014 11:51 AM
  2. BilalSoomro17's Avatar
    Okay. I didn't wanted this fight. I was only asking Should I buy 1520 or wait For 1525?
    07-09-2014 12:20 PM
  3. switch side method's Avatar
    Get the 1520 as its out now and with launch phones you never know how ling the next will be delayed till. I have the 1520 and Love it ๐Ÿ˜Š
    07-09-2014 12:27 PM
  4. S Vaibhav's Avatar
    Boring,unable to change anything?

    Hmm...letmesee...wrong and wrong on both accounts.

    Ever hear about jail breaking...there is plenty to change with them...as too boring,well,different strokes for different folks,but you have to define what exactly is boring about it...

    As to what someone else said about it's camera,it's a lot better for some folks,and takes some nice pictures.

    It's obviously apparent some folks love to hate anything that isn't Windows and look for reasons to express their biases.

    The new iPhones will be excellent phones,and their apps fully polished and their music and video player blows anything WP has out of the water...and they have alot more...Sigh...if our phones were as good,that would be 1 thing,but come on...they aren't and if folks wanted to be brutally honest these rabid WP fanatics would not be said.

    The only thing WP has over them is price....and screen size right now,and screen size won't be a factor in a few months.
    IPhone had the same UI since 2007. It only recently changed in ios7. They made the icons flatter and removed the shadows, making it look like..... Windows Phone. As for screen size,iPeople said that 3.5 inches is the perfect size for almost 6 years. Why the sudden change now huh? Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. And judging by your talk, you are clearly an apple fanboy. Just get over it, you can't teach an old dog new tricks. Apple has run out of innovation.
    Last edited by S Vaibhav; 07-09-2014 at 02:54 PM.
    07-09-2014 12:30 PM
  5. S Vaibhav's Avatar
    Okay. I didn't wanted this fight. I was only asking Should I buy 1520 or wait For 1525?
    Get the 1520. It's currently the best ask rounder on the Windows Phone line-up and you will love it's camera! :)
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    07-09-2014 12:31 PM
  6. BilalSoomro17's Avatar
    Get the 1520 as its out now and with launch phones you never know how ling the next will be delayed till. I have the 1520 and Love it ๐Ÿ˜Š
    Thanks Alot. It's coming after 2 Days Omg Already Dying ๐Ÿ˜‚
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    07-09-2014 12:42 PM
  7. pankaj981's Avatar
    It's confirmed that a 4.7 inch iPhone will come out, a 5.5 inch one is rumoured. QI and SD Card slot isn't happening.

    I was answering the original question if I'd upgrade to the 1525. I'm not upgrading to an iPhone at all
    07-09-2014 01:00 PM
  8. salmanahmad's Avatar
    I'm not an Apple fanboy, I'm an Android and Windows Phone enthusiast but I give credit where credit is due.

    So I'm going to take the time to dissect your argument.

    As far as fingerprint sensors go, it's good that it has been added in Windows Phone 8.1 but what I appreciate about Apple was that it's fingerprint sensor saves time and is fully integrated into the home button, unlike recent attempts from HTC and Samsung. So Apple currently has the best fingerprint detection, and since WP still doesn't have a phone with fingerprint detection, you shouldn't argue.

    I swear your a special kind of retarded if you think Lumia 620 has faster shutter speed than iPhones, ever since iPhone 4 Apple has been using continuous focus to ensure lightning fast photo capture, your talking about Lumia 620, not even the 1520 can match the iPhone's sheer camera speed. Use an iPhone 5S and then talk to me.

    What makes you think iPhone wasn't meant for photography? The lock screen shortcut to the camera app works faster than the dedicated shutter button to launch into Nokia Camera on WP, so for almost everything iPhone beats Lumia 1520 in the camera department, except maybe for photo sharpness. Oh and the shutter lag and focusing delays are present on all Windows Phones, they are just most apparent on 1020.

    Yes 64 bit may not have many benefits as yet but it paves the way for future app compatibility, iOS is also optimized for 64 bit whereas I doubt Windows Phone is yet. But okay I guess, I agree 64 bit has no real value at the moment and by the time 64 bit will become important in the mobile industry, iPhone 5S would have already become very outdated.

    Lumia Cyan plans to add faster shot-to-shot times and continuous focusing but sadly these features are not coming for all Lumias but only the high end ones. So don't be so excited.

    As far as customisation goes, yes iOS is behind Android and Windows Phone, I agree. But still they are catching up.

    But if you see the bigger picture iPhones are usually the only phones with zero compromises and perfection everywhere.

    Is the Lumia 1520 a stellar device? Yes it is amazing, is there any chance it'll hold up against iPhone 6? No way. Sorry.
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    07-09-2014 03:10 PM
  9. salmanahmad's Avatar
    Thanks Alot. It's coming after 2 Days Omg Already Dying ๐Ÿ˜‚

    Haha I never meant to fight I was just recommending to wait for either 1525 or iPhone 6 however I don't want you to feel bad about your purchase.

    The Lumia 1520 is an exceptional device with an amazing camera, which the Cyan update will improve drastically and also pretty good hardware.

    Have fun with it bro!
    07-09-2014 03:15 PM
  10. BilalSoomro17's Avatar
    No I mean I just don't like Design of iPhones sorry just iPhones not my type just life galaxies. Tbh I didn't like 925 also because of that awful design. 1520 is great and I am from Pakistan so ill wait for 1020 successor not 1520's If 1020's successor comes in November as rumors say than IT will be available in my country maybe in March than ill Wait for 2 or months for all review and feedback than buy it
    07-09-2014 03:22 PM
  11. S Vaibhav's Avatar
    @salmanahmed You still lose on the camera point. Take 2 phones-a Lumia 620 and an iPhone 4s. Both are locked, screen off. Take a picture simultaneously on both. On the Lumia, you just long press the button and press the camera button again to take the picture. And I'm not talking about Nokia camera, I'll talking about the default camera app. On iPhone, you press the power button, then slide on the lock screen, then tap to focus, and tap again to take the picture. I took a picture from the Lumia without even touching the screen. Now tell me honestly, which is faster? Retard.
    Last edited by S Vaibhav; 07-10-2014 at 08:53 AM.
    07-09-2014 03:56 PM
  12. salmanahmad's Avatar
    No I mean I just don't like Design of iPhones sorry just iPhones not my type just life galaxies. Tbh I didn't like 925 also because of that awful design. 1520 is great and I am from Pakistan so ill wait for 1020 successor not 1520's If 1020's successor comes in November as rumors say than IT will be available in my country maybe in March than ill Wait for 2 or months for all review and feedback than buy it

    925 had a nice design. ๐Ÿ˜ž

    I believe the McLaren device which is coming in a few months may just be the 1020 successor, but not sure . I'm Pakistani too ๐Ÿ˜ƒ
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    07-10-2014 02:36 AM
  13. broar94's Avatar
    S Vaibhav, Take iPhone 4S and Lumia 620. Shoot a pic on both. 4S auto focuses really fast. Lumia 620 is a lot slower. If you keep tapping on your screen for photos, 4S will be faster every time. .
    07-10-2014 03:36 AM
  14. salmanahmad's Avatar
    Haha. I do not think you've ever used an iPhone.

    The thing about Windows Phone is that due to background tasks on different occasions the camera apps launch either quickly or slowly. I myself have a Lumia 520, which has the same processor as the 620. I have personally used both the Stock Camera and Nokia Camera. And even if you launch the camera app via the dedicated shutter button it doesn't launch that fast. In addition to this the shutter buttons provided on Lumia 520 and 620 are pretty terrible and using them often results in blur, so it's better to have a faster camera on the lock screen than it is to make a dedicated shutter button.

    But for the sake of the argument let's say 620 opens the camera faster, that's just half the story. Even if 620 opens the camera faster you will tap either the shutter button(or the on screen one) and the phone will first start focusing and then start taking a photo, if you keep pressing the shutter button on the 620 or the 4S, the 4S will consistently take faster photos because it uses continuous focus.

    The same argument applies to iPhone 5S vs. Lumia 1520. iPhone simply has a faster camera.

    Something else I've realized about Lumia cameras as well is that the phone often doesn't take a stellar photo by itself, you have to change the exposure settings, the white balance, etc. and if you manage to do all that than your going to get better photos than the iPhone however if you want a shooter for everyday tasks and want it to be fast, iPhone all the way.

    I myself will never purchase an iPhone, but if it is better, I will admit it.
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    07-10-2014 04:47 AM
  15. S Vaibhav's Avatar
    @salmanahmed and broar94 I really appreciate your views, but still you are missing one main point. I can take photos WITHOUT focusing directly on Lumia. Is it possible on iPhone? I don't think so, because a family member of mine owns one. Please clarify and tell your views. Now which is faster?Also,90% of the time the image is quite good even if I don't focus.
    07-10-2014 06:13 AM
  16. anon(6038817)'s Avatar
    Did you know that pressing the camera button half way will focus the shot, then pressing it all the way will take the picture? It's just like a digital camera and I really like that feature.
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    07-10-2014 07:47 AM
  17. salmanahmad's Avatar
    @salmanahmed and broar94 I really appreciate your views, but still you are missing one main point. I can take photos WITHOUT focusing directly on Lumia. Is it possible on iPhone? I don't think so, because a family member of mine owns one. Please clarify and tell your views. Now which is faster?Also,90% of the time the image is quite good even if I don't focus.

    What do you mean by unfocused shots? I tried snapping a photo using my shutter button on Lumia 520 and it would always focus before taking a photo.

    An unfocused photo would be either grainy or just plain blurry.

    Plus if your fine with blurry/less detailed images why are we even comparing iPhone vs Lumia camera? Since your preference is on sheer speed and not on quality.

    So for the sake of argument if I say believe what you say:

    Your Lumia 620 can take an unfocused photo in less than a few seconds.

    The iPhone 4S takes a focused shot but just takes a second extra for that.

    So which is better? Plus 620 does have to focus before every shot and is not as fast as the rapid shooting on iPhone.

    In addition to this I've studied Windows Phone cameras myself and the slow photo taking times aren't only because of slow focusing. I tried setting my focus before taking a photo on my 520 but even when focus is set the phone still takes about half a second to snap the photo. Plus since 920 and above have OIS they take even longer to snap a photo!

    Current Lumia phones have both focusing and shutter speed problems, Nokia is trying to improve on that but I have no idea to what extent.

    iPhone cameras are truly zero shutter delay cameras as they focus before you hit the shutter button and instantly snap a photo.

    So your arguments are highly flawed.
    07-10-2014 09:31 AM
  18. S Vaibhav's Avatar
    What do you mean by unfocused shots? I tried snapping a photo using my shutter button on Lumia 520 and it would always focus before taking a photo.

    An unfocused photo would be either grainy or just plain blurry.

    Plus if your fine with blurry/less detailed images why are we even comparing iPhone vs Lumia camera? Since your preference is on sheer speed and not on quality.

    So for the sake of argument if I say believe what you say:

    Your Lumia 620 can take an unfocused photo in less than a few seconds.

    The iPhone 4S takes a focused shot but just takes a second extra for that.

    So which is better? Plus 620 does have to focus before every shot and is not as fast as the rapid shooting on iPhone.

    In addition to this I've studied Windows Phone cameras myself and the slow photo taking times aren't only because of slow focusing. I tried setting my focus before taking a photo on my 520 but even when focus is set the phone still takes about half a second to snap the photo. Plus since 920 and above have OIS they take even longer to snap a photo!

    Current Lumia phones have both focusing and shutter speed problems, Nokia is trying to improve on that but I have no idea to what extent.

    iPhone cameras are truly zero shutter delay cameras as they focus before you hit the shutter button and instantly snap a photo.

    So your arguments are highly flawed.
    Haha, Now I'm beginning to doubt whether you really have a Windows phone or not! Are we having this argument at all?! First buy a Lumia, take a photo and then talk to me. If you press the button fully(not half press) it takes a photo instantly without focusing.The default setting is infinity.And in case you dont know physics,any image taken with the focus at infinity is sharp and detailed,except of course,macro photography. How else would you explain fixed focus camera phones having crystal clear images!? Quit trolling and get your facts right before telling me that my arguments are wrong.
    07-10-2014 09:55 AM
  19. switch side method's Avatar
    Omg..this iPhone nut is so retarded. Has he ever used a Lumia 1520? Even my 520 was fantastic DVD quality when I filmed a wedding. So you can imagine what the camera is like. When I press the camera I don't need to focus or make any adjustments. And apple is clearly following Lumia...think the different colored iPhones gave that away. Fingerprint scanner? No thanks as I heard that fingerprints was stored on files for any criminal activity for the government. And what about builders using iPhones? Mixing cement and glue on stuff...gets on your fingers....cant unlock the phone now with the scanner. IPhone is useless.
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    07-10-2014 10:52 AM
  20. MDMcAtee's Avatar
    Omg..this iPhone nut is so retarded. Has he ever used a Lumia 1520? Even my 520 was fantastic DVD quality when I filmed a wedding. So you can imagine what the camera is like. When I press the camera I don't need to focus or make any adjustments. And apple is clearly following Lumia...think the different colored iPhones gave that away. Fingerprint scanner? No thanks as I heard that fingerprints was stored on files for any criminal activity for the government. And what about builders using iPhones? Mixing cement and glue on stuff...gets on your fingers....cant unlock the phone now with the scanner. IPhone is useless.
    Wow..well I'm not retarded and use a 1520, and can say that the camera on a iPhone 5s takes some excellent pictures and is just as easy to use as mine. Same for video...

    The auto focus isn't the greatest on mine and it's low light video leaves a lot to be desired.

    In the end it's all up to the individual which they prefer and which they can utilize better.

    Calling someone retarded because they prefer one over the other just shows your own ignorance
    07-10-2014 11:20 AM
  21. switch side method's Avatar
    First of all what makes you think it was you I was on about? But well done... You just showed your own ignorance. Good job there
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    07-10-2014 11:53 AM
  22. BilalSoomro17's Avatar
    Calm Down People.
    07-10-2014 12:09 PM
  23. BilalSoomro17's Avatar
    See Who have better picture quality?
    07-10-2014 12:16 PM
  24. MDMcAtee's Avatar
    First of all what makes you think it was you I was on about? But well done... You just showed your own ignorance. Good job there
    I knew full well who you were talking to....and that point is irrelevant. What does matter is your comments because of their respective preferences for using a iPhone camera.

    Apparently you don't have the cognitive skills to have a adult conversation without resorting to making derogatory fanboyism remarks..

    So,if you ever grow up mentality feel free to respond in a worthwhile manner
    07-10-2014 12:17 PM
  25. BilalSoomro17's Avatar
    Hey whoever have Windows Phone Download Nokia Camera Beta it takes Few milli seconds to launch. Its fast
    07-10-2014 12:24 PM
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