1. marcinskok92's Avatar
    Deciding between a Lumia 930 and Lumia 1020 for a friend to use for USA and Hong Kong.

    Irrespective of any specification differences between the two, which is a better international device? Does either have better LTE support for USA?
    07-12-2014 10:54 AM
  2. Silviu Bogusevschi's Avatar
    930.
    1020 is quite old already, even if it has an awesome camera module.

    930 has newer hardware, slightly bigger screen, newer software/firmware (1020 will get as well, but not every feature).
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    07-12-2014 10:57 AM
  3. marcinskok92's Avatar
    But what about LTE band compatibility? I heard the 930 has issues getting LTE for USA. Does the Lumia 1020 have better LTE support while also working on HK's GSM network?
    07-12-2014 10:59 AM
  4. Silviu Bogusevschi's Avatar
    But what about LTE band compatibility? I heard the 930 has issues getting LTE for USA. Does the Lumia 1020 have better LTE support while also working on HK's GSM network?
    Yes I think it has some issues. Lumia Icon has a proper LTE support, but it's VZW exclusive...
    Not sure about 1020.
    07-12-2014 11:02 AM
  5. Blacklac's Avatar
    How important is camera? The 20MP devices still can't compare to the 1020. I own a 1020 and 1520, so...

    Beyond the camera, the new quad core devices are just better than the 1020.
    07-12-2014 11:02 AM
  6. marcinskok92's Avatar
    If she got an unlocked Lumia Icon...

    Would it work on at least the Sprint LTE network? And compatible with HK's network?
    07-12-2014 11:06 AM
  7. marcinskok92's Avatar
    How important is camera? The 20MP devices still can't compare to the 1020. I own a 1020 and 1520, so...

    Beyond the camera, the new quad core devices are just better than the 1020.
    Not that important. I understand that it has more megapixels, but I've read there are other aspects which sometimes help picture taking be more enjoyable on 930.
    07-12-2014 11:10 AM
  8. Squachy's Avatar
    The only reason to get the 1020 is if you really have to have that camera which is still arguably the best smartphone camera.
    Otherwise get the 930.

    In terms of LTE, the current international 930 does not support the same LTE bands in north America. 3g/fake 4g will work fine but no LTE. Verizon's Icon apparently has LTE locked into itself so even that doesn't work on AT&T or other carriers even though band support is there.
    HOWEVER one Canadian distributer claims there is a north American spec 930 coming out soon, it will have all the north American LTE bands supported.

    The main issue with LTE is that there are so many bands split among the regions that are incompatible with other regions and phone manufacturers don't seem to incorporate all the necessary bands on a single device. In regards to the 930, I would bet the international 930 will get LTE in HK, but not in north America. likewise the claimed North American specced 930 will get LTE in North America but I don't think it has the right bands for HK.
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    07-12-2014 11:12 AM
  9. marcinskok92's Avatar
    The only reason to get the 1020 is if you really have to have that camera which is still arguably the best smartphone camera.
    Otherwise get the 930.

    In terms of LTE, the current international 930 does not support the same LTE bands in north America. 3g/fake 4g will work fine but no LTE. Verizon's Icon apparently has LTE locked into itself so even that doesn't work on AT&T or other carriers even though band support is there.
    HOWEVER one Canadian distributer claims there is a north American spec 930 coming out soon, it will have all the north American LTE bands supported.

    The main issue with LTE is that there are so many bands split among the regions that are incompatible with other regions and phone manufacturers don't seem to incorporate all the necessary bands on a single device. In regards to the 930, I would bet the international 930 will get LTE in HK, but not in north America. likewise the claimed North American specced 930 will get LTE in North America but I don't think it has the right bands for HK.
    Thanks, this was a great help.
    Just for curiosity's sake, are there any devices that have LTE compatibility across regions as USA and HK? Not just WP, but generally.
    07-12-2014 11:26 AM
  10. marcinskok92's Avatar
    The only reason to get the 1020 is if you really have to have that camera which is still arguably the best smartphone camera.
    Otherwise get the 930.

    In terms of LTE, the current international 930 does not support the same LTE bands in north America. 3g/fake 4g will work fine but no LTE. Verizon's Icon apparently has LTE locked into itself so even that doesn't work on AT&T or other carriers even though band support is there.
    HOWEVER one Canadian distributer claims there is a north American spec 930 coming out soon, it will have all the north American LTE bands supported.

    The main issue with LTE is that there are so many bands split among the regions that are incompatible with other regions and phone manufacturers don't seem to incorporate all the necessary bands on a single device. In regards to the 930, I would bet the international 930 will get LTE in HK, but not in north America. likewise the claimed North American specced 930 will get LTE in North America but I don't think it has the right bands for HK.
    Does the unlocked Lumia Icon get HK LTE bands?
    07-12-2014 11:51 AM
  11. carlos12001's Avatar
    I'd never pick 1020 over an icon or 930, its a great phone but like another guy said "its quite old".
    07-12-2014 11:57 AM
  12. Squachy's Avatar
    Thanks, this was a great help.
    Just for curiosity's sake, are there any devices that have LTE compatibility across regions as USA and HK? Not just WP, but generally.
    I have no idea, there could be. It depends on how many LTE bands are supported by the device. The Lumia Icon for example only has bands 4 and 13 for LTE, while the international 930 has bands 1, 3, 7, 8, 20.

    North America predominantly uses 1700/2100mhz for LTE (which is band 4, not to be confused as separate bands. 2100mhz itself is band 1) and there are several 700mhz bands (Verizon is band 13, but theres others like band 12 and band 17).
    HK appears to use bands 3 (1800mhz) and 7 (2600mhz) for LTE.
    Band 7 exists in NA but seems to be only in Canada.
    07-12-2014 01:33 PM
  13. Timbre70's Avatar
    1520 'cos IPS LCD screen.
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    07-13-2014 08:18 AM
  14. rumpelst's Avatar
    1020 has older CPU but is also smooth and fast so now it is not so important.What is important is that 930 has better screen, audio recording, battery life and worse camera.
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    07-14-2014 03:28 PM

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