1. Windows Central Question's Avatar
    Hello, I'm a 3D artist and I'm starting to use Microsoft OneDrive, but I'm a little bit worried about the TOS regarding nudity.

    What about if I store for example a Ruben's painting that depicts female breasts? And what will happen if I take that painting, recreate a 3D image, render it and store it in the cloud? Or what about Michelangelo's David? My main concern is that if creating artistic images that may depict human nudity will result in getting my account banned (right now I'm sketching a nude ogre and I'm worried about what could happen if I upload it).

    Thank you very much!

    Thank you very much!
    Yazen likes this.
    01-25-2015 08:00 AM
  2. RumoredNow's Avatar
    Seems they take a hard line on this...

    "Inappropriate" photos? - Microsoft Community

    But just what triggers enforcement I can not say.

    I do know that no Microsoft Rep will wave any part of the TOS.

    Try a third party service like BOX that you can access from your phone. Be sure to turn off OneDrive auto backup in Camera and patrol your OneDrive to delete anything that might have slipped through.

    <edit> BOX frequently has bounties where logging in via app on a certain device gives a lifetime bonus of 50GB free storage. I earned one long ago with an HP TouchPad and it is still in effect. I also could have earned it with a Nexus 4 I had. Sadly, these bonuses are not cumulative. box device storage bonus - Bing
  3. aximtreo's Avatar
    Don't know what the true rule is but I'm sure there would be something coming from one of the Ambassador's to let you know.
    01-25-2015 08:14 AM
  4. RumoredNow's Avatar
    Seems they take a hard line on this...

    "Inappropriate" photos? - Microsoft Community

    But just what triggers enforcement I can not say.

    I do know that no Microsoft Rep will wave any part of the TOS.

    Try a third party service like BOX that you can access from your phone. Be sure to turn off OneDrive auto backup in Camera and patrol your OneDrive to delete anything that might have slipped through.

    <edit> BOX frequently has bounties where logging in via app on a certain device gives a lifetime bonus of 50GB free storage. I earned one long ago with an HP TouchPad and it is still in effect. I also could have earned it with a Nexus 4 I had. Sadly, these bonuses are not cumulative. box device storage bonus - Bing
    01-25-2015 11:01 AM
  5. Hotvak123's Avatar
    My question Is? who's going to be looking?, and how many file do they have to see before they find your one photo? unless they have a thousand people being paid to look at photos going to the cloud, just to see who naughty or nice, I don't see the problem unless you shear , and some one complains.
    RumoredNow likes this.
    01-25-2015 02:25 PM
  6. RumoredNow's Avatar
    These things are usually found via hotlinking. They see where traffic from to your OneDrive is coming from.

    So if "HotNudeGalz" is always hitting your storage that would trigger a look.
    01-25-2015 02:36 PM
  7. mrruz's Avatar
    Just to be clear, MS is actively looking at photos uploaded to OneDrive??
    01-25-2015 02:38 PM
  8. RumoredNow's Avatar
    Just to be clear, MS is actively looking at photos uploaded to OneDrive??
    They have that right... But it is an algorithm or series of algorithms doing the initial sniffing. Human eyeballs would come into play if any flags are raised.
    01-25-2015 02:43 PM
  9. Yazen's Avatar
    On Windows Phones they automatically upload to OneDrive by default.
    Would hate to get banned for an auto upload lol
    mrruz likes this.
    01-25-2015 02:44 PM
  10. Yazen's Avatar
    Hello, I'm a 3D artist and I'm starting to use Microsoft OneDrive, but I'm a little bit worried about the TOS regarding nudity.

    What about if I store for example a Ruben's painting that depicts female breasts? And what will happen if I take that painting, recreate a 3D image, render it and store it in the cloud? Or what about Michelangelo's David? My main concern is that if creating artistic images that may depict human nudity will result in getting my account banned (right now I'm sketching a nude ogre and I'm worried about what could happen if I upload it).

    Thank you very much!

    Thank you very much!
    These kinds of TOS are intentionally vague. Would be dependant on the person investigating the account ...

    Protip: Use Gmask before uploading!
    http://homepage3.nifty.com/furumizo/gmaskd_e.htm

    Protip2: Use 7zip to create a password protected archive.
    RumoredNow likes this.
    01-25-2015 03:03 PM
  11. xandros9's Avatar
    I remember some AMA where the OneDrive team stated the sort of thing wasn't an issue as long as it wasn't publicly shared.

    l believe they'd be chill, but better to be cautious
    I think thats something worth a test
    RumoredNow, Yazen, jmshub and 1 others like this.
    01-25-2015 03:21 PM
  12. Yazen's Avatar
    I remember some AMA where the OneDrive team stated the sort of thing wasn't an issue as long as it wasn't publicly shared.

    l believe they'd be chill, but better to be cautious
    I think thats something worth a test
    Nice to know 😊
    01-25-2015 05:10 PM
  13. mrruz's Avatar
    They have that right... But it is an algorithm or series of algorithms doing the initial sniffing. Human eyeballs would come into play if any flags are raised.
    I understand they have the right, it's just good to know. And they don't really tell you that they're actively inspecting your pictures... Yes, yes.... We should all read the TOS....
    I think it would be nice if it was more common knowledge considering that autoupload is on by default.

    Oh well, I still like having unlimited cloud space πŸ˜ƒ
    01-25-2015 06:15 PM
  14. Hotvak123's Avatar
    I don't think there is an algorithm out there that would be able to distinguish between photos of a naked person or naked statue or a tree for that fact. it would require human eyes to see the difference,
    and of the billion photos out there, and millions uploading every day, when do you think they ever get to your files?. Never !
    01-25-2015 07:39 PM
  15. Hotvak123's Avatar
    I remember some AMA where the OneDrive team stated the sort of thing wasn't an issue as long as it wasn't publicly shared.

    l believe they'd be chill, but better to be cautious
    I think thats something worth a test
    Oh please don't test it, nobody really what's to see you naked. lol
    01-25-2015 07:50 PM
  16. jhoff80's Avatar
    I remember some AMA where the OneDrive team stated the sort of thing wasn't an issue as long as it wasn't publicly shared.

    l believe they'd be chill, but better to be cautious
    I think thats something worth a test
    Yeah, they said it's only an issue if it's shared. ​The one other thing they did say besides this is they do have an automated system to scan for child pornography as well.
    xandros9 and Laura Knotek like this.
    01-25-2015 08:02 PM
  17. SSgt Bruskowiz's Avatar
    Hm nothing happens as long as it is set to private... At least that's wat most users say.
    A while ago had this same discussion so i tried running some tests on two old accounts. One was set as private and one as public and filled them with hardcore porn and other stuf like pirated software etc etc. But nothing happend. No ban no warning, nothing.
    And its stil running.
    xandros9 and Hotvak123 like this.
    01-25-2015 09:44 PM
  18. RumoredNow's Avatar
    I don't think there is an algorithm out there that would be able to distinguish between photos of a naked person or naked statue or a tree for that fact. it would require human eyes to see the difference,
    and of the billion photos out there, and millions uploading every day, when do you think they ever get to your files?. Never !
    No the algorithm looks at traffic and checks against blacklisted sites hitting your storage, or too much traffic if you try and host a volume download business from your personal account. Things like that.
    01-25-2015 09:53 PM
  19. androidtoWM's Avatar
    I don't think there is an algorithm out there that would be able to distinguish between photos of a naked person or naked statue or a tree for that fact. it would require human eyes to see the difference,
    and of the billion photos out there, and millions uploading every day, when do you think they ever get to your files?. Never !
    actually there's an algorithm developed by MS (open sourced, I believe) that does this. They can do this by image recognition.


    Edit: it's called PhotoDNA

    PhotoDNA Newsroom | News Center


    Edit2:
    PhotoDNA is a technology developed by Microsoft that computes hash values of images in order to identify alike images.[1] It is used with Microsoft's own services Bing and OneDrive,[2] as well as by Google Gmail, Twitter,[3] Facebook [4] and the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children,[5] to whom Microsoft donated the technology.
    PhotoDNA - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    RumoredNow, Yazen and xandros9 like this.
    01-27-2015 03:04 AM
  20. Yazen's Avatar
    So.. Gmask then? πŸ˜‚
    01-27-2015 09:06 AM

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