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  1. Chintan Gohel's Avatar
    From the numerous comments on this forums: http://forums.windowscentral.com/surface-laptop/457703-2.htm#post3660750 I could see that lack of USB -C is becoming a serious pain point

    And I got to thinking, what is this USB -C? I've never seen it anywhere in anything

    My phone has the normal USB charger, so does my surface 3, I use normal USB flash drives and all the ones I have are USB. My hard drisk is USB 3.0, my camera came with a normal USB cable, so did my older camera, everyt other phone in the house, the printer, the ethernet to USB adaptor etc. At work we have USB 2.0 and 3.0 ports on many pcs. Mice and keyboards are still USB 2.0

    So where is this USB-C actually used? Have any of you actually seen it being used anywhere?
    libra89 likes this.
    05-05-2017 10:07 AM
  2. HoosierDaddy's Avatar
    For a start, it's required for Continuum.
    Guytronic and kaktus1389 like this.
    05-05-2017 10:15 AM
  3. Drael646464's Avatar
    For a start, it's required for Continuum.
    So you can't run continuum via miracast? Or usb 2/3-A? Or hdmi?

    You can output video pretty well using just a regular microusb and the MHL standard. And hdmi would be a lot easier to use and setup than some kind of USB-c dock (and cheaper).

    Leaving all those other display technologies out seems a bit odd (You can just use Bluetooth for the input)
    05-05-2017 10:23 AM
  4. Drael646464's Avatar
    Here we go, apparently you can use miracast, or a wireless dock ->

    https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/win...ontinuum-phone

    But it uses specific extensions, so its a better experience on a task designed adapter or wireless dock. But do those exist is the next question?
    05-05-2017 10:39 AM
  5. Drael646464's Avatar
    Thanks duckduckgo :)

    Okay, so yes their are continuum focused wireless "docks", such as the Actiontec ScreenBeam Mini2 continuum edition.

    https://www.amazon.com/ACTIONTEC-Scr...pUvbUpU3660910

    Regular miracast is still supposed to work, but slower. Obviously cabled is always smoother.

    I wasn't arguing against usb-c, which admitted is pretty rare in the wild (although there is plenty of things you can buy like sticks and docks), just making sure that other display formats were supported because not having miracast would be straight out weird.
    05-05-2017 10:44 AM
  6. Guytronic's Avatar
    My notebook has USB C.
    Just bought a hard disc clone reader that connects via USB C 3.1.
    My phone is USB C 3.1 enabled.
    I have 2 USB C thumb drives also.
    05-05-2017 10:57 AM
  7. Chintan Gohel's Avatar
    This thing isn't just restricted to US, is it? Could explain why I haven't seen anything yet this side of the world
    05-05-2017 11:54 PM
  8. Drael646464's Avatar
    This thing isn't just restricted to US, is it? Could explain why I haven't seen anything yet this side of the world
    Its new and most people/things don't use it yet. It's supposed to be the new standard because its a) reversible b) you can have say something charging at the same time as reading a disc and c) its smaller, so it fits better on smaller devices like thin phones

    Because its usb 3.1 its also very fast. But atm, most of the world is still using usb 2 and 3, with the A type port.
    Chintan Gohel likes this.
    05-06-2017 12:44 AM
  9. Rubidad's Avatar
    Greetings,

    My 950, as well as my Asus UX360CA laptop both have a USB 3.1 type C port. I had to purchase a male to male type C cable in order to connect the phone to the laptop to move music, videos and other data. Yes, it is fast, but so is the USB 3.0 port. If I want to charge the phone in the car, I will also have to buy a C to A cable or adapter. These cables and adapters are expensive and difficult to find in stores. I got mine from an online supplier.

    People are knocking the new Surface Laptop because it lacks 3.1 type C, and only has the 3.0 USB port. Since it apparently has room for only one port, this makes sense to me. After all, one needs to use the laptop now, not just in the future!!!
    Maybe I'm mistaken, but the USB 3.1 Type C data transfer speed is limited by such factors as hard drive speed and other hardware bottle necks.

    To summarize, the future ain't here yet. This new USB format had been around for couple of years, and has yet to be supported appropriately!!!!!
    libra89 likes this.
    05-06-2017 08:08 AM
  10. kaktus1389's Avatar
    I have a 950 with USB-C and a budget 2-in-1 device with USB-C. USB type C is faster and allows you to add for example an external GPU or makes the charging faster on phones. And the best part - it doesn't matter how you turn the cable, it works either way so you don't have to turn it around 3 times to work
    05-06-2017 08:17 AM
  11. Zachary Boddy's Avatar
    I have two phones that use USB Type-C and I wish my Pro 4 charged using USB Type-C. The advantages include faster charging speeds, multi-tasking (such as charging while transferring data at the same time, or with a dongle doing several things like connecting an external monitor, exchanging data, and charging an external device). It's not been widely adopted yet but with even the Samsung Galaxy S8 uses the new standard.
    05-06-2017 02:30 PM
  12. midnightfrolic's Avatar
    USB C isn't as mainstream as regular USB, so you'll have to actively seek out the devices you need in USB C standard. As of now, I just get the USB converters and/or cables. USBC OTG adapter is nice to keep around.

    More USBC specific devices are trickling out: monitors, hubs, phones, laptops, tablets, headphones, speakers, etc.
    05-06-2017 08:00 PM
  13. extrikate's Avatar
    The Alcatel Idol 4s uses USB-C.
    05-06-2017 08:07 PM
  14. farhanaxiq's Avatar
    My own phone, Lumia 950, the first time i saw other usb-c devices was my friend new macbook pro
    05-06-2017 11:13 PM
  15. nick popplewell's Avatar
    I think the LG V20 has it,maybe the V10,not sure on the 10 but 99.993% sure on the V20,my 950 has it and I have a Acersoft battery in it and it's all you need,amazing,I still have my OEM battery but never use it,obviously,but I hadn't heard of USB type-C till I got a 950
    05-06-2017 11:38 PM
  16. Chintan Gohel's Avatar
    I have two phones that use USB Type-C and I wish my Pro 4 charged using USB Type-C. The advantages include faster charging speeds, multi-tasking (such as charging while transferring data at the same time, or with a dongle doing several things like connecting an external monitor, exchanging data, and charging an external device). It's not been widely adopted yet but with even the Samsung Galaxy S8 uses the new standard.
    But charging while data is transferring simultaneously has been there for years for USB type A, so this isn't something new. My old Nokia phone could charge and transfer data at the same time, so did my lumia 1020 and now my lumia 540.
    05-07-2017 05:34 AM
  17. Guytronic's Avatar
    I believe the newer "C" standard is all about the smaller reversible connector which I really appreciate.
    To me having the same reversible connector on both ends of the cable simplifies things.

    From what I read the "Thunderbolt 3" standard has 40 G/bits data transfer enabled where first gen USB 3.0 and USB-C 3.1 remain at 5 G/bits.
    Second gen USB-C 3.1 transfers data at 10 G/bits.

    The USB thing goes on and on and becomes really confusing.
    I guess it boils down to new lower voltage fast charging abilities while allowing for quicker data rate transfers.

    Seems like "C" is aimed at mobile devices currently.
    Last edited by Guytronic; 05-10-2017 at 09:37 AM.
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    05-07-2017 02:16 PM
  18. digitaldd's Avatar
    What USB-C devices have i seen? Mostly hubs, card readers, flash/thumb drives, and some really good USB docking stations. I have a phone with USB-C and had bought one of those combo USB/MicroUSB flash/thumb drives that have both microUSB and USB-A ports, luckily when i got my current phone i picked up 2 Anker MicroUSB to USC-C adapters (for like $5US) which make using regular MicroUSB things possible in USC-C ports.
    05-10-2017 09:32 AM
  19. Josiah23's Avatar
    I never owned a device with USB type C.

    Only thing I've used that is "similar" is Apple's lightning cable/port on my iPhone.

    Would definitely like to try a device with one though.
    Guytronic and libra89 like this.
    05-10-2017 11:50 AM
  20. Jaredallister's Avatar
    Well, my main computer is a Macbook Pro with Touchbar, so my laptop has 4 USB C/Thunderbolt 3 ports. When buying it, I decided to go all in with USB C/Thunderbolt 3. So my monitor (LG Ultrafine 5K), both at home and at work, Samsung T3 External SSD, and my thunderbolt raid are all USB C. And I just order a USB C harddrive enclourse for my backup hard drive. So pretty much all my peripherals are ethert USB C or Thunderbolt 3. I have to say, it really really nice to have all my devices use one port and can easly enterchange the cables between them.
    05-10-2017 01:14 PM
  21. xandros9's Avatar
    Used to have a Nexus 5X with USB-C and a couple of my friends have a Pixel and Pixel XL, both with C.

    I've also seen a couple of those small Macbooks (you know, the ones with USB-C and a headphone jack - the iPhone antithesis practically) also.

    Otherwise, my current phone has micro-USB and I see Lightning the most on-campus.
    Guytronic likes this.
    05-10-2017 07:31 PM
  22. Zachary Boddy's Avatar
    But charging while data is transferring simultaneously has been there for years for USB type A, so this isn't something new. My old Nokia phone could charge and transfer data at the same time, so did my lumia 1020 and now my lumia 540.
    It's more about the speed of doing these tasks then about simply doing them. It's like riding your bike somewhere verses driving a motorcycle. Yes, the bicycle will get you there, but the motorcycle will get you there a dozen times faster. Charging is faster, data transfer is faster, audio sounds better, visuals look better.
    Your old Lumias couldn't charge while simultaneously running a second screen, playing audio through an external sound bar, and transferring data. And all of this in such a small port.
    05-16-2017 09:34 PM

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