1. realwarder's Avatar
    Have to say I took my 950xl to the kids Christmas play to video it rather than using my iPhone. Zoomed video works very well on the 950 with good stabilization and the photos are still good but I used a DSLR for that that day.

    More modern smartphones (Pixel2/Note8/iPhoneX) are now better for daily shots than the 950, but it still holds out well for its age!
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    01-13-2018 07:37 PM
  2. kurtd's Avatar
    Living images on the lumia 950 worked absolutely amazing, especially how you could view them on your windows 10 pc without any effort.
    01-13-2018 08:06 PM
  3. Jonathan Osachuk's Avatar
    I just bought a new Pixel 2 XL to replace my 950xl a couple days ago. I bought an LG G6 last year and found the camera to be terrible and ended up using my Lumia whenever I went anywhere I'd take photos. I find that Lumia to be better in terms of hardware still (screen quality, reception, battery life...) and ended up using it most of the time because I just liked it better. Figured I'd just do it right amd go for the big guns (Pixel 2 XL 128gb) since I am starting to find problems with the Windows apps I use becoming outdated and so that I can still sell this phone for something. I'll definitely miss it.
    01-13-2018 08:28 PM
  4. Player Piano's Avatar
    The snark is strong with this one.
    Honest question. How does one define a smartphone in 2018?
    01-13-2018 10:24 PM
  5. anon(7929613)'s Avatar
    I've just bought Lumia 950. One striking aspect of it's camera is ACCURATE COLOR REPRODUCTION. This is different from older Lumia that over saturated the colors.

    I am literally stunned by it's camera. It's different but it's awesome! I don't know how they did it.
    kurtd likes this.
    01-13-2018 11:10 PM
  6. Great deal's Avatar
    Jeez, just let it go, move on, pivot a bit and chat about enterprise services, rehashing dead tech is not the way to go unless you have too many staff and not enough to talk about..
    01-14-2018 02:56 AM
  7. pdixon0's Avatar
    Agree with Dare2Blink above, I moved from a 950XL to a Note8 in October, the low light photos in particular from the Note8 are embarrassing in comparison to the 950XL.
    01-14-2018 03:29 AM
  8. Pritam Das's Avatar
    I had the 950XL and there is no contest between the newer Pixel 2 and the 950. In fact Dec 2016 and Jan 2017 I used a 950 and the original Pixel side by side and even then the Pixel consistently crushed the Lumia 950. The Pixel 2 is even better. This HDR+ / Machine Learning thing that Google employs is amazing.
    Best smartphone camera on a Windows smartphone. Nowhere remotely near best accross all phones. Last generation Pixel and iPhones way ahead. I'm not even mentioning this year's Pixel phones.
    01-14-2018 03:40 AM
  9. G4Grandad's Avatar
    Best camera on an obsolete smartphone. What an accolade!!
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    01-14-2018 03:53 AM
  10. neo158's Avatar
    I think this is a very, very subjective question. I prefer the camera on my 950XL over the Nexus 5X that I also have any day due to the amount of options available on it. However, this doesn't mean that there isn't better camera software on phones out there but I have noticed that the hardware all seems to be around the 20MP mark that the 950XL was at when it was first released. For me it comes down to the feature set in the camera software, I want the option of full DSLR style manual control, something that still isn't standard even on high end Android smartphones, and that's what the 950XL gives me.
    fin11 likes this.
    01-14-2018 04:20 AM
  11. Stephen Townsley's Avatar
    I had the 950XL and there is no contest between the newer Pixel 2 and the 950. In fact Dec 2016 and Jan 2017 I used a 950 and the original Pixel side by side and even then the Pixel consistently crushed the Lumia 950. The Pixel 2 is even better. This HDR+ / Machine Learning thing that Google employs is amazing.
    Nokia sold the Lumia on smartphone photography. Not having a flagship phone for 2 years means the Lumia 950/XL is now lagging way behind.

    If you are buying a smartphone in 2018 for picture quality then Windowsphone isn't the best.

    However if you compare it with the average and general affordable Android device in 2018 then the Lumia could still be viable. Of course it's not a like for like, flagship to flagship, comparison.
    01-14-2018 05:57 AM
  12. Steve Litchfield's Avatar
    Steve here from AAWP, so I've been doing 950 vs the rest camera comparisons for two years now. The new iPhone X and Pixel 2 range are the first two competitors which have bested the 950/XL in terms of results (and factoring in things like zoom, in the iPhone's case).

    Obviously the newer chipsets and sensors are much faster (not least in focussing!), but the 950 range's camera STILL is competitive in terms of high quality photos with the best in the world - as long as the subject is relatively compliant(!)

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    01-14-2018 09:29 AM
  13. erzhik's Avatar
    Nope, not really better. May be better in the dark and when zoomed in, but overall 950XL camera lacks too many features to be called the best cameraphone.
    01-14-2018 10:07 AM
  14. Allen Rhodes's Avatar
    What is with all the Uncle Rico's(watch Napoleon Dynamite) still on these forums? Of course a camera from 2015 is bested by 2017 phones. There aren't many tests needed for this. It may beat some phones but holding onto a dead platform device bases on tech that I PROMISE will be bested by every phone released in Q3 and Q4 of this year is past sad, it's borderline pathetic at this point. If you CANT afford a new phone, guess what... You don't fall in this category. But the constant propping up of a defunct OS and obsolete hardware is mind boggling. Are y'all still playing with a Sega Dreamcast too?
    01-14-2018 10:24 AM
  15. Cornelius Hardy's Avatar
    For a 2 year old camera, it still competes with newer cameras and that's worth something. I am a photographer and I use my 950xl a lot for the fact it can fit in my pocket vs always carrying my Canon dslr. I just got a new battery and reset it last week so it's like new again. I have a gs7 that I use for just a few real estate apps. I don't particularly care for the camera though, and the phone lag makes me want to toss it out the car. My wife has a iPhone 7, and both of my kids have iPhone 8. The cameras are pretty good on the ip8 but I can still consistently get shots on my 950, that they can't get. I've even tried. Not sure what you mean about not being fast. You press the camera button and it opens instantly. I did a test with the ip8 and it's the same if not a . faster.

    There isn't anything out so far that I would trade my 950xl for. I'm holding out until it completely dies, or a rumored Surface phone comes out and it better have a better camera.
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    01-14-2018 10:37 AM
  16. Cornelius Hardy's Avatar
    A two year phone that still competes with the best of them. That's how I see it. I have the 950xl and I'm a photographer. I recently replaced the battery on it and then reset it just because. My camera still opens quickly with the press of the camera button. The shots are also still amazing. I have a galaxy s7 that it still beats. Not to mention the lag on that phone. I spent a lot of $$$ to use 3 apps. In fact I just stream wifi to it from my xl when i need it.

    My wife has a iPhone 7 and my kids have iPhone 8. I have plenty of devices to test against in my house and I have to say, I can still consistently get shots that they can't. I thought maybe since I do photography that was the issue but no. I tested my sons phone for a shot he was trying to get that wasn't coming out right. I got it easily on the xl without tweeking settings. The ip8 refused to comply.

    There isn't a phone out I would trade my xl for. I use it just as much as my dslr. I don't go off reviews or how new newer tech is.
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    01-14-2018 10:53 AM
  17. ACtrip's Avatar
    I work for a cellphone company so I get to play with all the phones, especially for their cameras. I did choose a 950 for my work phone when they came out and loved the camera but I can easily say the iPhone X has the best camera out there. The Note 8 is very close since this is my current work phone but the selfie on the X is better than a lot of back cameras for midrange phones.

    I have a DSLR and the iPhone X is now easily my favorite phone especially because of its camera, previous to that it was my Nokia 925 which I loved. I still play with it time to time but the iPhone X is easily my favorite now
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    01-14-2018 11:44 AM
  18. selemja's Avatar
    I don't know if the Lumia 950 XL camera is the best there is. But it is still superior to the camera in my new iPhone 8 Plus. There is no way I can take pictures, and especially videos with the same quality. Over all it is a very disappointing journey from my beloved 950 XL to this Windows XL looking toy operating system. Almost nothing is better. I really, miss my 950 XL.
    fin11 likes this.
    01-14-2018 11:53 AM
  19. mtl_slyr's Avatar
    i just wanna say i have lumia 950 for almost a year and i'm really satisfied with camera. Ofc it's 2018., cameras got better, but i've payed lumia 280$. There is no phone today with that price that gives mi what lumia does in hardware... except apps.
    fin11 likes this.
    01-14-2018 12:13 PM
  20. EspHack's Avatar
    kind of, depending who you ask, but just barely, if you are into pixel-peeping that is, the sensor and optics are still best in class, but video and other niceties depend heavily on computing power so that fight was long lost already

    besides, this topic is always controversial, which is best is dependent on what you value the most, I would say the most important metric of a camera is "capturing the moment" followed by how good(technically) you got that moment, and then lastly by how much that end result pleases your personal expectations

    newer phones have the 950's beaten on point 1 and even 3 for most users, the 950 winning point 2 is like a 160mp prototype camera I saw somewhere winning raw picture quality, yeah its technically cool, if that pleases you enough then so be it

    btw my hope is that microsoft reuses the same camera module on the folding thing, and considering their heavy focus on "MR" it should provide some outstanding results akin to what the pixel does but with the huge badass hardware part to maximize the result even further, long live pureview :P
    01-14-2018 02:33 PM
  21. Isaiah Heart's Avatar
    No, however, it's better than the S6 and note 5. I believe it can compete with the LG G6 and iPhone 7.
    01-14-2018 02:53 PM
  22. Sin Ogaris's Avatar
    The 950 XL never had the best smartphone camera, it was great, but by no means the best, its low light performance was terrible.
    Blomsternisse likes this.
    01-15-2018 12:28 AM
  23. dhugos's Avatar
    It looks like you pre-empted everyone and answered your own question in this article! But my thought is that after two years, of course, with MS in so-called maintenance mode in the mobile space, other phones catching up to the Lumia 950XL in terms of capabilities is of little surprise. Despite that, and as a photographer myself, I'd say that after a point that what you do with an image is easily as important as the capabilities of the image-taking device. So, all things otherwise being equal, I still use the 950XL because it gives you so much to play with, and the Camera app is so useful. Your preference is what matters.
    fin11 likes this.
    01-15-2018 03:57 AM
  24. dhugos's Avatar
    Thanks. I agree.
    01-15-2018 04:02 AM
  25. Jelmar Andree's Avatar
    I still love my lumia 930 photoos, in don't know anything about other mobiles photogrsphs. I don't use them.
    01-15-2018 04:23 AM
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