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  1. RubberChicken76's Avatar
    I hardly think RIM is better off financially even if its absolute loss is larger...
    One has debt, one has none. One has a bigger loss and a much bigger ship to right than the other.
    12-27-2012 08:37 AM
  2. bb10_fan's Avatar
    a_idrdjcaaaigaw.jpg looks like BB10 is going to have NETFLIX (maybe not at launch, but still...)
    12-27-2012 08:51 AM
  3. ttsoldier's Avatar
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ID:	25637 looks like BB10 is going to have NETFLIX (maybe not at launch, but still...)
    Where is your source for this? I could just open Photoshop and make this photo. Get out of here.

    At the end of the day, I think the Blackberry is a lot more popular than Windows Phone. If you take a survey and ask people about BB10 VS WP8, a lot of them will know BB10 is coming... Not a lot of people know about Windows Phone 8.

    Marketing for WP8 needs to drastically increased.
    12-27-2012 08:55 AM
  4. BellaRed's Avatar
    Nokia copied RIM, really?

    It wasn't RIM's software to copy. Scalado offered the software to anyone who wished to use it.

    Then timing of it all seems to point to both RIM & Nokia considering it for their phones at the same time, RIM licensed, Nokia bought....

    As for calling me a fanboy, just because BB10 isn't going to be as innovative as you think it is there is no need to call me that. Besides, I have an ipad, an HTC One X, a Bold 9900, and a wp8...... hardly the devices a fanboy would have!

    I like a bit of everything and see good in all OS's. Anything wrong with that?

    BB10 will have other features that WP8 doesn't have, some of which will be great. If you read an earlier post of mine you will see that I said I will probably try out BB10 for myself. It is the only way to know if something suits you or not.

    You cannot get away from the fact that the active frames have been taken from the Meego Harmattan OS, nothing wrong with that. TAT (now owned by RIM) worked the Nokia N9. They have added these active frames to BB10 but have they innovated on them? do they work in the same way as they did on the N9?

    Jolla Mobile has these active frames also but they have made them interactive..... just saying..

    :)

    All of the above aside I think BB10 will do just fine and will probably outsell Wp8. They do have a bigger user base to start with.
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    12-27-2012 09:02 AM
  5. sdrawkcabII's Avatar
    What I don't understand is the nonsensical, highly opinionated posts. I don't mind the term fanboy, as a fan is simply someone with invested interest into something, emotionally and socially. Nothing is wrong with being a fan. What I have a problem with is blind, rude ignoramus. That needs to stop. If you aren't an adult, and can't bring your views across respectfully, don't comment. This is not directed at anyone, but is a general statement.

    Statements like "BB10 has Instagram, WP8 will never have it" is stupid, and starts flame wars. No one knows if Instagram will ever be seen on WP8. For all anyone knows, developers could be working on an Instagram app for WP8 at this very moment of reading this.

    I have personal grievances with RIM because of the products they shipped before. For what a BB offers presently, and its price is not comparable. The OS is slow, laggy, phones freeze and reboot a lot, installing and uninstalling apps is a pain, and apart from aesthetics, the build quality isn't very sensible to me. The painted aluminium finish encasing the Curve 9360 is a good example of this; it comes off and makes the phone look older than it really is, and is unsightly. All phones suffer some of these problems, true, but I'm not talking about all phones, I'm talking about the phone I own. I am absolutely fed up with BB devices and look forward to jumping ship for the very reasons I stated. To be fair, BB does some things wonderfully, but at this present time, they don't do anything that the competitors can't do. So, should I return to BB when BB10 is launched?
    Perhaps, but I am very strict in my views. What RIM offer presently, for the prices they ask for is nothing short of inflated robbery. Of course, the user isn't being forced to pay up, but even suggesting these prices for their inferior devices does not appeal to my sense of fairness, or customer care. Business is business, I understand that, but I'm not selling the phones, I'm buying them, and if I can't see reason enough to pay the fees RIM is asking for, for such inferior products, you can see why I'm turned off by that. Being strict in my views will not allow me to support this company any further. I could care less what cool products they bring out, if I feel that they aren't being fair to the people who make them wealthy (customers), I will not support them, period. This is not solely about RIM, if anyone starts thinking that. This is how I generally think. I have boycotted Apple, Nike, KFC, Adidas and many other companies because of these simple principles.

    If BB10 is a success, so be it. But it won't be by my hand; they don't need my money to be successful. I see real value for money in Microsoft devices, I always have. So, they get my support, although I have a grievance with how Microsoft treats some of its product-line workers in 3rd world countries, but that's another issue. But rest assured, if I feel Microsoft is being unfair, for whatever reason, I will gladly leave their services too.
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    12-27-2012 09:02 AM
  6. bb10_fan's Avatar
    Where is your source for this? I could just open Photoshop and make this photo. Get out of here.

    At the end of the day, I think the Blackberry is a lot more popular than Windows Phone. If you take a survey and ask people about BB10 VS WP8, a lot of them will know BB10 is coming... Not a lot of people know about Windows Phone 8.

    Marketing for WP8 needs to drastically increased.
    Run a twitter (can you do it on your WP8?) and search for @BlackberryScoop, you'll have your source :)
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    12-27-2012 09:06 AM
  7. morpho4444's Avatar
    It is BlackberryScoops a guy that seams to know more than us

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    EDIT: Oh.. bbFan got that one!
    12-27-2012 09:19 AM
  8. bb10_fan's Avatar
    It is BlackberryScoops a guy that seams to know more than us

    It seems he works for RIM in some department, at least I've got this impression after reading his twitter :)
    12-27-2012 09:23 AM
  9. BellaRed's Avatar
    Blackberry as it stands right now has 79 million users WITHOUT an instagram app.

    That's pretty good going.
    12-27-2012 09:27 AM
  10. SHOBOKSHY's Avatar
    Ok guys chill. Lets see what happens when BB10 is out. or at least on January 30
    12-27-2012 09:53 AM
  11. abass's Avatar
    Where is your source for this? I could just open Photoshop and make this photo. Get out of here.

    At the end of the day, I think the Blackberry is a lot more popular than Windows Phone. If you take a survey and ask people about BB10 VS WP8, a lot of them will know BB10 is coming... Not a lot of people know about Windows Phone 8.

    Marketing for WP8 needs to drastically increased.
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    More to come, surely must be faked though, right? :)
    12-27-2012 10:14 AM
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    More to come, surely must be faked though, right? :)
    I'm always on cb, how come I've never seen theses if they're real?
    12-27-2012 10:18 AM
  13. abass's Avatar
    I'm always on cb, how come I've never seen theses if they're real?
    Because they just got leaked about 30-45 minutes ago..? haha they are up on the forums over there. Most of the leaks show up on the CB forums hours/days before CrackBerry actually makes up a blog post.
    12-27-2012 10:22 AM
  14. bb10_fan's Avatar
    I'm always on cb, how come I've never seen theses if they're real?
    I guess it will appear there very soon :) CB always keep track of @BlackberryScoop twits... He/she also mentioned that the app is in Beta stage and not really ready for launch
    12-27-2012 10:23 AM
  15. ttsoldier's Avatar
    Why are you guys acting like this Netflix app is SUCH a big deal.

    Geez.
    12-27-2012 10:24 AM
  16. abass's Avatar
    Why are you guys acting like this Netflix app is SUCH a big deal.

    Geez.
    Because it kind of is...? Such a big app developer is on board for such a new OS and it's one of those big make or break apps like facebook and Twitter.. How can you deny that?
    12-27-2012 10:28 AM
  17. ohgood's Avatar
    Why are you guys acting like this Netflix app is SUCH a big deal.

    Geez.
    Read between the lines... its not that netflix by itself is a big deal... its that devs are considering bbos a big enough deal to already be developing... netflix is just a hint, or clue, to this.

    Netflix is a fairly popular application and streaming service... you may want to ask why its not on your platform of choice already, because that is kind of a big deal.
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    12-27-2012 10:29 AM
  18. ttsoldier's Avatar
    Read between the lines... its not that netflix by itself is a big deal... its that devs are considering bbos a big enough deal to already be developing... netflix is just a hint, or clue, to this.

    Netflix is a fairly popular application and streaming service... you may want to ask why its not on your platform of choice already, because that is kind of a big deal.
    I have a Netflix app on my lumia 920 and my windows 8 laptop. Not sure what you are talking about but it IS on my platform of choice.
    12-27-2012 10:34 AM
  19. abass's Avatar
    I have a Netflix app on my lumia 920 and my windows 8 laptop. Not sure what you are talking about but it IS on my platform of choice.
    But it's bigger for BlackBerry seeing as Netflix was NOT ever on BlackBerry before, but now they see the potential of BB10 and are actually developing an app for it. The whole point is that BlackBerry finally has some big app devs on board, which hasn't been that way for.. like ever.. So it's huge to see this.
    12-27-2012 10:47 AM
  20. ttsoldier's Avatar
    But it's bigger for BlackBerry seeing as Netflix was NOT ever on BlackBerry before, but now they see the potential of BB10 and are actually developing an app for it. The whole point is that BlackBerry finally has some big app devs on board, which hasn't been that way for.. like ever.. So it's huge to see this.
    Grab the confetti.
    12-27-2012 10:58 AM
  21. abass's Avatar
    Grab the confetti.
    Not sure why it makes you so irritated, but to each his own.
    12-27-2012 11:02 AM
  22. morpho4444's Avatar
    Actually someone from here pointed out that BB10 wont actually have Netflix... we are just filling the gap of what WP users think is better than BB10
    Why are you guys acting like this Netflix app is SUCH a big deal.

    Geez.
    12-27-2012 11:17 AM
  23. sirfly2fly's Avatar
    This is quickly turning into a flame war and it wasn't that for the first couple of pages, lets not take it there..
    12-27-2012 11:22 AM
  24. morpho4444's Avatar
    This is quickly turning into a flame war and it wasn't that for the first couple of pages, lets not take it there..
    Ok Gandhi, but at least tell us what do you think it will happen with WP once bb10 launches.
    12-27-2012 11:24 AM
  25. dogfish54's Avatar
    I understand that we are all one site now at MobileNations, but this now feels like someone got into a fight from a kid from the other school, and now all his friends from the other school are coming to join in.

    WP8 will be just fine when BB10 launches.
    cckgz4 likes this.
    12-27-2012 11:36 AM
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