Nogitsune Micah
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Personally, I'd feel bad for anyone who had to settle for Non-lumia windows phone when it is obvious that is what their first choice/preference would be. is a Lumia windows phone. Which is of course reasonable.
After all, I do sell/work with Microsoft products and I can't tell you how many times I had someone on Verizon who upgraded to the M8 come in disappointed because it wasn't a Lumia phone and they weren't happy. You can also see posts like this on WC forums.
You know something is wrong when people will bypass the only flagship available OR even more surprisingly go from an M8 windows to something like a 640 XL.....They don't want to settle.
So i'd encourage people not to settle for whatever Android OEM turned Windows Phone is thrown out at you. Instead, I encourage these readers to start looking at other carriers. I realized today that many people have an outdated bit of information when it comes to carriers.
Att generally speaking is on par with Verizon in most places. We did a cross country trip and for the most part, I couldn't complain about lack of coverage/low coverage. Compared to my Verizon friends...Sprint and tmobile are a bit shaky. If you do switch to other carriers, Att does offer Microcell and Tmobile with their signal booster as well as wifi calling for those who may need that extra boost.
It should be no surprise really that Lumias are going to Att because that is where they have always done best at....
That being said considering the complaints I've heard/read about the HTC M9 I wouldn't suggest it and I heard some issues with the LG G4 as well.
Not to mention, you have to realize you are essentially getting leftovers because if this phone comes out in October-November...the M10 and LG G4 will be announced less than 6 months later.
It'd be pointless to me to get a 'new' windows phone that is likely to be forgotten and unsupported.
After all, I do sell/work with Microsoft products and I can't tell you how many times I had someone on Verizon who upgraded to the M8 come in disappointed because it wasn't a Lumia phone and they weren't happy. You can also see posts like this on WC forums.
You know something is wrong when people will bypass the only flagship available OR even more surprisingly go from an M8 windows to something like a 640 XL.....They don't want to settle.
So i'd encourage people not to settle for whatever Android OEM turned Windows Phone is thrown out at you. Instead, I encourage these readers to start looking at other carriers. I realized today that many people have an outdated bit of information when it comes to carriers.
Att generally speaking is on par with Verizon in most places. We did a cross country trip and for the most part, I couldn't complain about lack of coverage/low coverage. Compared to my Verizon friends...Sprint and tmobile are a bit shaky. If you do switch to other carriers, Att does offer Microcell and Tmobile with their signal booster as well as wifi calling for those who may need that extra boost.
It should be no surprise really that Lumias are going to Att because that is where they have always done best at....
That being said considering the complaints I've heard/read about the HTC M9 I wouldn't suggest it and I heard some issues with the LG G4 as well.
Not to mention, you have to realize you are essentially getting leftovers because if this phone comes out in October-November...the M10 and LG G4 will be announced less than 6 months later.
It'd be pointless to me to get a 'new' windows phone that is likely to be forgotten and unsupported.
Okay, Verizon Doom and Gloom people, have a read back in this thread again of Mr. MacPhisto's post. It will tell you more of the real story on what's going on.
Verizon isn't really giving up on Windows. Just Lumias, apparently. We'll call it rumor for now, but it seems pretty plausible to me at least.
The LG G4 hinted at in Mr. MacPhisto's post could interest me. Would miss wireless charging though. Could get used to the extra size. Will probably hold on to my Icon as long as possible to see what happens.
Will say that I've been looking at the LG G4 and the camera is quite good on that handset. We'll see what happens with the Moto X and if that even gets a Windows version. HTC and LG are certainties. The Moto was pegged at being around 60% likely. Samsung was around 20% likely. All were just estimates on limited knowledge. Samsung may deliver another Windows handset, but it may not be the S6. The key with the S6 is that sales have been dropping on it much more quickly than expected, so Samsung wants to do something to give them a kick in the pants. Not sure announcing a Windows variant would do it. That would give Windows a huge boost.
But the main thrust is that Verizon is not ditching Windows. They mutually agreed with Microsoft on the Lumias. The door is not shut on them coming in the future, but Verizon is not in the habit of brand building if they don't have to be and even then it has to be Verizon focused, like the Droid branding.
Hmmm... I would possibly go with the G4. It does RAW capture, and it looks like it is 4K video capable too. Although the screen is a leeetle big for my taste.
The HTC One M9 looks nice too. It has a higher resolution camera (20MP) and can do 4K video as well.
We'll see.
If both were offered with Windows 10, I think I would go with either of those. This fits in nicely with Nadella's strategy. Let OEM's produce Windows Mobile devices and we will fill in the gaps.
Like I said, I love my Icon and if Verizon were to offer a new flagship Lumia, then I'd go for it. If not, and somebody like LG or HTC offers a flagship Windows Mobile device on Verizon, that is comparable to Lumia, then I could see my self jumping to a new OEM. I still get to stay in the Microsoft ecosystem and get a really good device to boot. So I think that would be a win-win.
Microsoft is not losing out by not making a new Lumia for Verizon. They still benefit significantly, with other OEMs producing Windows Mobile devices. It fits in with its strategy...AND it is really going back to its core. Providing an excellent OS for other OEMs to incorporate into their devices. Something that Microsoft is REALLY good at doing. Something that both Bill Gates understood and Satya Nadella understands, but Ballmer didn't really grasp.
In a nutshell. Does it matter WHO makes flagship Windows Mobile devices? Not really, no. It's about the Windows ecosystem as a whole.
In the '90's and early 2000's, it was all about Dell, HP, Gateway, Acer, Toshiba, and numerous other desktop/laptop OEMs. Now in the 21st Century it's about all of those plus HTC, LG, Samsung, Microsoft, and other tablet/phone OEMs.