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  1. moc426's Avatar
    What are you doing in bed from 230 am to nearly 7 am while awake?

    Thanks for the concern, folks! :) I am a natural night person who has been forced to spend the last 41 years living on a normal schedule. As a professional computer programmer, I have a certain leeway to set my schedule. but I can't quite make a "sleep at 6 am, wake up past noon" work for most employers. I also have sleep apnea (diagnosed -- but why do they insist on only measuring you from 10 PM until early morning?) but have not yet gotten a CPAP machine. So, I have seen doctors, it's just a long process that is still ongoing. And here's the next night's sleep:
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    11-11-2014 03:32 PM
  2. noirsoft's Avatar
    What are you doing in bed from 230 am to nearly 7 am while awake?
    The quick answer is "trying to fall asleep"
    The longer answer: One thing the Band does not seem to be sensitive enough to capture is the state of being half asleep, drifting off for a minute or two, then waking back up because of apnea or restless leg. While it almost certainly is more than an hour between me starting sleep mode and first drifting off towards sleep, I definitely was not 100% awake until 7 AM.
    11-12-2014 03:09 AM
  3. moc426's Avatar
    Ouch sorry if I sounded insensitive, I don't know much about this condition. That is really terrible.

    The quick answer is "trying to fall asleep"
    The longer answer: One thing the Band does not seem to be sensitive enough to capture is the state of being half asleep, drifting off for a minute or two, then waking back up because of apnea or restless leg. While it almost certainly is more than an hour between me starting sleep mode and first drifting off towards sleep, I definitely was not 100% awake until 7 AM.
    11-12-2014 09:01 AM
  4. anon(7822191)'s Avatar
    I'm sleeping horribly apparently. Can someone tell me what's up with my sleep? The least I've woken up at night since monitoring is like 8x... This band gives you a reasonable amount of data but I kind of want to know how deviant my sleep patterns are from the norm as well as what habits I have that could be causing them. wp_ss_20141112_0002.jpg
    11-12-2014 04:27 PM
  5. DroidUser42's Avatar
    I'm sleeping horribly apparently. Can someone tell me what's up with my sleep? The least I've woken up at night since monitoring is like 8x... This band gives you a reasonable amount of data but I kind of want to know how deviant my sleep patterns are from the norm as well as what habits I have that could be causing them. Click image for larger version. 

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    Except for the duration of 9.5 hours to my 7 hours, it doesn't look that much different than mine. I would like to get more restful sleep, but I have no idea what's normal, how the Band senses it, or what exactly it means - much less come up with an action plan to improve it.

    Summery: Neat! Now what? For now, we seem to be stuck getting medical advice from anonymous posters on the internet. :/
    11-12-2014 05:51 PM
  6. gshifrin's Avatar
    So does anyone know what's being measured to define light or deep sleep? Is it just movement? Heart rate? What? Obviously it's not detecting REM sleep.
    11-13-2014 01:20 AM
  7. gadgetrants's Avatar
    I was all ready to trumpet the fact that I'd "scored" 1.5 hours of restful sleep two nights ago (a personal best for me! LOL -- I'm usually closer to 30-40 minutes) but then...drum roll please...

    ...this morning I got the AMAZING score of....

    0 SECONDS RESTFUL SLEEP. What's even stranger is that it also says I woke up 2 times, which is equally odd for me (normally more like 8-10 times).

    Talk about taking the wind out of *my* sails! Funny that regardless of the number the Band reports, I feel more or less the same.

    -Matt
    11-13-2014 07:07 AM
  8. slyronit's Avatar
    Had a good sleep

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    11-15-2014 12:12 AM
  9. Bobvfr's Avatar
    I don't have anything to add since I haven't been able to get a Band yet, but I just wanted to comment on dainla and jwpear falling asleep in ~6 minutes. I can't even get comfortable in 6 minutes. :-)
    I find the best way to get a restfull sleep is to put on any form of motorsport on my TV, it's like a children's mobile toy for me, all those noisy buzzy things going round in circles....

    The only thing that will disturb my slumber is if my wife touches the remote and I will wake long enough to say "I was watching that".

    And if I have been on an early shift I find a good documentary a close second, but for those I am ready and somehow manage to press the record button as my head hits the sofa
    11-15-2014 01:33 AM
  10. MadSci2's Avatar
    Don't fret. In this context, "Deep Sleep" does not equal REM sleep. Its likely that the Band software conflates the two,since REM would appear similar to Deep Sleep to the sensors that the Band has.
    11-18-2014 04:21 PM
  11. MadSci2's Avatar
    Unless you are kidding, you need to see a Sleep Specialist. An inability to fall asleep for 4 hours isn't normal, or healthy. The good news in , there are effective treatments for delayed Sleep Cycle and most of the other ailments that cause this kind of pattern. Except kids of course.
    Seriously, look into some professional help. No need to suffer!
    11-18-2014 04:26 PM
  12. MadSci2's Avatar
    I can't see it. Perhaps your might tighten your Band a little?
    11-18-2014 04:28 PM
  13. MadSci2's Avatar
    IT should be pretty clear to all involved. You should be on CPAP right now. A lot of Apnea Pts have delayed sleep onset after years of almost choking for hours as they tried to fall asleep. Altering your lifestyle to accommodate a sleep issue sis a common, but unwise strategy. CPAP therapy, and treatment for Delayed Sleep Onset is required.

    Its not just sleep. Apnea can lead very readily to obesity, diabetes, hypertension, strokes and heart attacks. All preventable with therapy. Please move to get it going as soon as possible.

    Best of luck!
    11-18-2014 04:33 PM
  14. eyecrispy's Avatar
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    I don't think the tracking is accurate at all. Less than 18 min of restful sleep? I slept like a log! My Up24 showed I got almost 3.5 hrs of deep sleep. How can it be that far off?
    11-18-2014 07:50 PM
  15. DroidUser42's Avatar
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    I don't think the tracking is accurate at all. Less than 18 min of restful sleep? I slept like a log! My Up24 showed I got almost 3.5 hrs of deep sleep. How can it be that far off?
    What's with the chart? There's no graph. Since we don't know the definition of "deep sleep" it's hard to tell who's right and who's wrong.
    11-18-2014 09:15 PM
  16. eyecrispy's Avatar
    What's with the chart? There's no graph. Since we don't know the definition of "deep sleep" it's hard to tell who's right and who's wrong.
    Here's the graph.

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    11-18-2014 09:41 PM
  17. slyronit's Avatar
    That's not sleeping like a log, this is
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    11-19-2014 12:12 PM
  18. Skippy07's Avatar
    That's not sleeping like a log, this is
    No, this is sleeping like a log.....

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    -Skippy
    11-19-2014 01:49 PM
  19. eyecrispy's Avatar
    I always sleep like a log. The thing is, the results that my Band gives me are way off from what my Up24 gives. I always have between 3.5-4.5 hrs of restful sleep according to myUp24. With this Band, I got less than 18 minutes? Lol.

    Last night, it said I got like 1.5 hrs. I guess that's better, but I woke up very rested and had no children climbing into bed with me to disrupt my cycles.
    11-19-2014 04:03 PM
  20. joora's Avatar
    Last week I didn't have the luxury of long sleep sessions, but when I slept

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    I slept well.

    Also, the longer sessions weren't bad either:

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    But seeing the data from others I'm beginning to think something's wrong with me :)
    11-19-2014 04:11 PM
  21. mikemuch's Avatar
    Wow, that looks like the record!
    08-11-2016 03:34 PM
  22. buzzard75's Avatar
    During the week I usually get "moderate." On the weekends, I typically get "good." I think a lot of it has to do with the duration and not just how much restful sleep you've gotten, although I'm sure that's still a factor. Typically I don't get too much more restful sleep on the weekends than I do during the week, but my duration is an hour or an hour and a half longer. I've also seen "fair" a couple times, which seems to be worse than "moderate." And ONE time, I saw "optimal." No idea why as it didn't look different than any other "good" sleep I've gotten. The only thing that seemed different was that my efficiency was at like 95 or 96% vs. being in the high 80's and low 90's. I really wish I knew more about how
    09-16-2016 09:02 AM
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