I've noticed the distance being pretty far off when running on a treadmill. Does anyone know if there is a way to adjust stride length on the Band? I've done this on previous devices and would like to do the same here.
I've noticed the distance being pretty far off when running on a treadmill. Does anyone know if there is a way to adjust stride length on the Band? I've done this on previous devices and would like to do the same here.
Dan don't pop the champagne corks quite yet -- my first few runs with the Band were outside, and my collective experience is that instead of calibrating the device through a range of speeds/paces, it only seemed to work well indoor at the same pace I'd run outside with GPS. It's as if the Band learned: "Wrist movement X maps to stride length Y," instead of learning a general X->Y function. I'd love to learn more about how the "calibration" process works but for now I'd advise either (a) taking several GPS-guided runs at different speeds, or (b) varying your speed during a few runs. Either way once the bomb cyclone passes please post back with your experience!
-Matt
Well that's not what I wanted to hear. I'm going to take my band on its first run in a bit. My 7 yr old wants to come so it'll be a nice sloooow run. I'll report back.
I took mine out for a run on Sunday, doing about 6.6mi in about an hour at a 9min 17sec pace which tracked fairly close to my Caledos runner app which gave me a distance of 6.7 and a 9min 10sec pace.
Then I took it for a treadmill run this morning and it was way off... I ran for 15min on the treadmill and did about 1.8 miles at an average pace of ~7min 40sec. The band tracked me at a 9min 20sec (+/- 10sec) pace average for the actual running period... Almost a 2min/mile difference! So either the treadmill is dead wrong, or they have some more tweaking to do...
I still like the band, it's at least giving me a reference point, and it seems to me that most of these issues will be more of a software/calibration issue than a hardware problem... For now I might just treadmill run with it on exercise mode for the heart rate function.
Cool...this corroborates my experience as well. Today at the end of my leisurely indoor-track run, I moved the pace from 11 min up to around 9:30 (intuitively based on my "thousands" of miles of indoor time!), but the Band begrudgingly moved only so far as 10:45. Based on my long rant posted above and what we've learned about "calibrating" the Band via GPS since, I'm pretty confident this is a problem that a firmware update can solve! Whether we ever see that update is another question.
-Matt
It seems like this is something that the band dose overall... It's quite conservative in reacting to sudden changes and things that seem "odd" to it's calibration. If I find the time I should go try and "calibrate" it on a faster run and seen if I can teach it that faster is acceptable. Considering they're still trying to get this device into consumer hands I'm hoping that an update is coming in the next month or so.
Based on what I've read here I'm a bit more pessimistic on the update schedule...my expectations are set low, like February 2015 low. Hopefully you're right!
However, I'm not sure about your "sudden change" theory, insofar as the following anecdote:
- when walking without any activity mode turned on, if I hold my arm still and look at the Band, I can see my steps incrementing (presumably distance too) -- that's awesome (it's clearly still sensing the up/down motion of my hips and legs even if my arm is stationary)!
- when jogging with Running mode engaged, if I hold my arm still the pace display quickly plummets...er, I mean, gets slower and slower, and only gradually catches up as I move my arm naturally again
So what I'm guessing is that the two heuristics/algorithms used to estimate speed/distance are different during normal walking versus running. And that makes sense. What's a shame, though, that whatever cue is used while walking with a stationary arm that detects I am still moving is not engaged accurately while running.
Maybe this is a moot point. Like you note, I'm much more interested in correct estimation of running across a range of speeds.
-Matt