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01-16-2017 10:13 PM
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  1. George Ponder's Avatar
    I've got it narrowed down to two options. The Vivosmart HR+ or Vivoactive HR. I like the Vivosmart and just need to find a Vivoactive locally to see how it feels on the wrist. Kinda worried it may be too large for my wrist.
    10-21-2016 05:06 PM
  2. mhc48's Avatar
    George, do either of the Vivos pause on their own when you stop running (to tie your shoe or get a drink) and then start up again automatically when you resume? Or show you by color mode your BPM range?
    10-21-2016 06:44 PM
  3. mikepalma's Avatar
    I haven't worn my Band 2 in about three days and I'm seriously thinking of not wearing it any more on a daily basis, and just putting it on my wrist when I go out for runs, hikes or bike rides, just to delay another band or battery problem, until either I come up with a viable alternative or MS comes up with some other similar device, whenever or if it ever, does.
    Why?
    10-21-2016 06:50 PM
  4. mhc48's Avatar
    Why?
    I really love and have come to depend on my Band 2, nothing else (that I've seen or heard of) has all the features for running and hiking. And that's putting aside all the message email and phone uses when used with a Windows Phone. If MS is neither making or stocking any more Band 2s online or in their stores, I do not want to be caught one day having to buy, learn how to use or find work arounds for another device which doesn't have all the features of the Band.
    Last edited by mhc48; 10-21-2016 at 07:27 PM.
    10-21-2016 07:14 PM
  5. mhc48's Avatar
    Sorry duplicate response.
    10-21-2016 07:26 PM
  6. George Ponder's Avatar
    George, do either of the Vivos pause on their own when you stop running (to tie your shoe or get a drink) and then start up again automatically when you resume? Or show you by color mode your BPM range?
    Can't say that they automatically pause when running (if there's a setting for that I haven't found it yet). There is a Move IQ setting that detects an activity if you forget to launch one.

    As far as the BP range, you do have colored graphs available in the Connect app that show your resting and high readings for the day or week.
    10-21-2016 08:18 PM
  7. George Ponder's Avatar
    Just picked up a Vivoactive HR and it might be the closest thing to the Band 2 available. It is about 1/4 inch wider than the Band 2 and the interface isn't as smooth, but you have a nice range of Connected Apps that can be installed on the watch that range from clock faces to weather apps to display styles to chart your data.

    Notifications are still iffy though, but better than what I am experiencing with the Vivosmart HR+. I get maybe every third or fourth notification make its way from the phone.

    I do like the simplicity of the Vivosmart but man... if I can get used to the wider Vivoactive, that might be the way to go.
    10-22-2016 08:06 PM
  8. gwinegarden's Avatar
    "An iPhone 7 and Apple Watch."

    Wow! $1200 - $1500 to replace a Band 2!
    10-29-2016 08:16 AM
  9. DroidUser42's Avatar
    The FitBit Blaze looks like it has the feature set I want. Price is OK - $199. Many of the other options people have mentioned seem more on the athletic side. I want a smart watch with more than a passing interest in fitness. It lacks the built-in GPS, apparently it uses the phone's. I'm OK with that. The reminder to move is probably a little more important to this cubicle dweller. (Something the Surge lacks.)

    The Garmins looks like they might be weak on the smart watch side, while being overkill for my needs in fitness.

    However, from what I'm hearing, I'll be doing less walking to reach the same step goal.
    10-29-2016 07:39 PM
  10. George Ponder's Avatar
    Looked at the Blaze but I'm wasn't too keen on having to pop the watch out of the bezel to charge it. I think it would have been better served with a charger that latched on magnetically to the back of the watch.

    With my daughter and wife well entrenched with Garmin (we even have the Smart Scale), when my Band 2 bites the dust I'll be going with the Garmin Vivosmart HR+. Just felt more comfortable on my wrist than the Fitbit bands and I can actually join a family circle.
    10-29-2016 08:37 PM
  11. DroidUser42's Avatar
    and I can actually join a family circle.
    That's a pretty big one. You want to be on the same ecosystem as the friends/family you intend to "compete" with.
    10-29-2016 08:46 PM
  12. George Ponder's Avatar
    That's a pretty big one. You want to be on the same ecosystem as the friends/family you intend to "compete" with.
    Both are iPhone users (as is my son) so we haven't had a lot in common over the years. I think this will be a first where we are all on the same page, in a manner of speaking.
    10-29-2016 09:41 PM
  13. anon(9895094)'s Avatar
    To me, the Garmins look like the best option but man, I don't want it to get to that... I really, really use the guided workouts, even made my own workouts, and it seems that there are no other bands like that, except for specialized ones like Atlas.
    12-15-2016 04:27 PM
  14. ATAcapt's Avatar
    I went with the Garmin Vivoactive HR. I tried the Garmin Vivosmart HR but could not read the text well due to the dim display. The Vivoactive HR is the closest thing I could find to the Band 2. I am currently wearing both to compare the results. So far the Vivoactive is better at heart rate, notications, visibility in direct sunlight, comfort and battery life. The Band beats it in sleep mode and low light visibility.
    12-15-2016 04:59 PM
  15. vEEP pEEP's Avatar
    12-15-2016 07:23 PM
  16. lakebay's Avatar
    I looked at alternatives and it's ugly out there.

    Wife got a FitBit Charge 2, good for her I guess but I could never use that. Not a Band replacement at all.
    I bought Garmin Forerunner 235. Expensive, should be good, but wow, it's terrible. Can't believe it gets good reviews. Returning that to Costco.

    I'm getting another Band 2. Can't seem to find any in Canada so I'm just going to get one off the Kijiji, one that has warranty left.
    12-17-2016 04:07 PM
  17. RyanJo's Avatar
    After my second Band 2 strap broke I switched to an apple watch and it has been great so far. I honestly wish I had switched sooner since it does everything my band has done and more (except sleep monitoring) even lasts about the same amount of time. Even if MS comes out with a Band 3 eventually doubt I will go back unless it is the most amazing workout band ever.
    12-19-2016 11:02 AM
  18. etphoto's Avatar
    My 3rd Band 2 died and even though I believed it was very accurate on the data it collected I am done with the band until MS comes out with another, more stable, one. Which, doesn't look like that is happening. My wife had a FitBit Flex so I have been trying that. Wow, the Band blows it away. I think it was giving me close to 4000 unearned steps a day.

    Twitter: @PhotographyET
    12-19-2016 11:27 AM
  19. DroidUser42's Avatar
    Good reviews on a new contender: Ticwatch 2. At $199 it does most everything except sleep monitoring. Android & iOS compatible.
    12-19-2016 06:08 PM
  20. anon(9895094)'s Avatar
    I've probably asked elsewhere too, but has anybody seen a band/watch that has anything similar to MS band's guided workouts?
    12-19-2016 07:01 PM
  21. Will Gilliland's Avatar
    My third Band 2 died so I decided to get the Fitbit Charge 2. I wear suits quite a bit and the Garmin series are just too ugly and bulky. The FC2 looks great, especially with third party bands, but it is no Band 2. The screen doesn't stay on while working out. There are no notifications. You can't really customize the names of workouts. The screen is slightly smaller and monochrome. *I don't think the screen is*"touch". It is triggered on bumps or*taps.

    On the pro side, it is more durable. Battery life is*4 to 5 days. The HR is consistent and locks better. *The Fitbit app for Windows Phone has more features than the Microsoft Health app, but not as user friendly.
    12-24-2016 10:18 AM
  22. evillama's Avatar
    So far the Vivoactive is better at heart rate, notications, visibility in direct sunlight, comfort and battery life.
    Do you use a Windows Phone, and for notifications are you needing to keep the app running in order for it to work?
    01-05-2017 09:30 AM
  23. DavidinCT's Avatar
    While I'm not a huge Apple fan, I do have an iPhone and I think the Watch is likely where I'd go right now. The watch is certainly a much better looking option than the Garmin Vivoactive which I think is the closest match to the band for features. But the Garmin is just so ugly. It looks like the original Band, but twice the size.
    I guess I am going to try the iPhone for a while.... I have 3 phones.... A LG G4 (black with leather), a Nokia ICON (with all color backs) and a iPhone 6s....

    Oh, hard to chose....

    Sticking with the Pebble Time Steel till they kill the services, as it has fitness things (step and sleep), 7-10 day battery life (after a 6 months, I still get 7-8 day battery on it), Water proof to 30m and it's has a color display (e-ink display) and is NOT a fitness band. It does far better noifications than the Band or Band 2 offered.

    Too bad the Pebble Time does not fully work with WIndows Phone, I would hop back for a bit but, once I have lived with a smartwatch for a while, I am not sure I could live with out one...

    and Android wear....1-3 day battery life is hard to go back to, as I charge my Pebble once a week....

    Good reviews on a new contender: Ticwatch 2. At $199 it does most everything except sleep monitoring. Android & iOS compatible.
    Looks like a pretty cool watch.... 1 to 2 day battery life :(

    I guess there is nothing else that is in COLOR, Looks like a watch and lasts a week....besides the pebble..
    01-05-2017 02:57 PM
  24. Polychrome's Avatar
    My band suddenly started experiencing the issue where it will randomly lose power, and has to be plugged in to power back on. I'm upset because I really loved this and I'm not optimistic about contacting support now that they've apparently ditched their remaining inventory.


    Of all things too.... I would have greatly preferred if my band had split again, because my plan was to disassemble it once the warranty was out, and make a new leather strap for it.

    Ah well. The unofficial pebble apps are getting really good. I'll probably go back to my pebble and find a PTR on clearance for special occasions. (Yeah, I know Pebble is dead.)
    01-06-2017 12:40 PM
  25. toddsay's Avatar
    My band suddenly started experiencing the issue where it will randomly lose power, and has to be plugged in to power back on. I'm upset because I really loved this and I'm not optimistic about contacting support now that they've apparently ditched their remaining inventory.
    Ouch... because I had this happen today for the first time. Charged it fully, did sleep tracking overnight, woke up and it seemed normal. Went to work and found it was totally dead. After getting home later I was able to charge it from 0%. Hmmm, not good.
    01-07-2017 01:59 AM
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