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  1. Dantekai14's Avatar
    I dont like to operate in terms of Black and White. Search and YouTube - agree with you, Google is better. Gmail, hmm my preference is Outlook. Docs - i prefer MS service. Google now - available in my country but no one of my fren ds are using it.

    Regarding weather - cortana will use data from bing weather App, just like in desktop. MS have Great Apps where cortana may get data.

    Im ex android user, was early adopter of Galaxy S. But I quality of Wp instead of functions of android
    My friends and family use Google now very often.
    and I was also planning to show mine but MS just ruin it and worse made them available for US only.

    You and your friends circle doesn't use , so you have no problem with that but I have
    04-03-2014 01:33 PM
  2. ImmortalWarrior's Avatar
    Your sarcasm earns you no respect from me, nor does your flawed analogy, nor your lack of knowledge of internal MS decision making or the logistics behind it.
    Your condescending tone is exactly what I would expect from someone making the baseless assertions you are.
    How is my analogy flawed? Exactly how?
    Canadians have very similar accents to Americans just south of the border (Quebecois aside), the data on bing demonstrably adequate as we can set WP7 devices to US search language and utilize the local scout feature just fine, and there is no legal regulations preventing us from using search features in Bing. My analogy describes this scenario perfectly. All the parts are available, they are simply saying NO to allowing us to use them.
    As I told someone earlier, reality doesn't tally up with the story you want to tell. It's fine that you feel that way, but do you really feel that they are just withholding it for fun?.
    How does reality not tally up to what I said? What knowledge do you have, oh wisest of commenters, that I am not privy to?
    And no, I don't make assumptions as to why they are holding it back. I recognize that, with the information publicly available, there is no logically justifiable reason to withhold search and voice command features from Canadians.
    Only someone unintelligent withholds something easily given that will make them more money. To not provide what customers want out of sheer spite would be stupidity at its highest level...and no one at MS is that stupid.?.
    Please provide me with the part where I made such an assertion? See my reply above about what information is available and what can logically be inferred from that.
    04-03-2014 01:33 PM
  3. Dantekai14's Avatar
    lol whats with the hate in this thread? microsoft isnt racist , cortana is a beta product!! if they would have released it today itself people would have been moaning about the bugs and critisize its recognition of non-us accents!! give them some time and keep calm and wait!!
    Then why USA?
    04-03-2014 01:34 PM
  4. Morpheus Phreak's Avatar
    Your condescending tone is exactly what I would expect from someone making the baseless assertions you are.
    How is my analogy flawed? Exactly how?
    Canadians have very similar accents to Americans just south of the border (Quebecois aside), the data on bing demonstrably adequate as we can set WP7 devices to US search language and utilize the local scout feature just fine, and there is no legal regulations preventing us from using search features in Bing. My analogy describes this scenario perfectly. All the parts are available, they are simply saying NO to allowing us to use them.


    How does reality not tally up to what I said? What knowledge do you have, oh wisest of commenters, that I am not privy to?
    And no, I don't make assumptions as to why they are holding it back. I recognize that, with the information publicly available, there is no logically justifiable reason to withhold search and voice command features from Canadians.

    Please provide me with the part where I made such an assertion? See my reply above about what information is available and what can logically be inferred from that.
    You should really just look up my resume. My name is Shane Nokes. You'll see why I know what I know. I've already stated it several times outright...

    As regards the money... Microsoft intentionally holding out on other regions means they don't make money. Microsoft intentionally trying to be racist would upset people and prevent them from making money.

    They are in the business of making money, which means trying to get things to users as quickly as is feasible in order to make a profit from you.

    Even the stupidest person I've ever met realizes that a company has to have customers in order to make money, and you don't get customers by intentionally doing things to upset them.

    I mean seriously...that's logic for pre-schoolers.
    04-03-2014 01:38 PM
  5. Dantekai14's Avatar
    Microsoft isn't lazy. They are serious. What you need to understand is, MS makes more profit from its Enterprise services than Xbox, Windows And Windows Phone.
    So Given they are doing this much for WP is commendable and Satya Nadela himself said that they will now focus more in Windows Phones.
    MS is bringing their A-game with Cortana. Let them debug it, improve it and watch as it will dominate the competition (Slowly :P)
    WP. only bring waiting.
    Waiting for apps
    Waiting for games
    Waiting for basic features
    And now waiting for cortana.

    WP doesn't feel like Windows Phone, it's feels more like Waiting Phone
    04-03-2014 01:38 PM
  6. Morpheus Phreak's Avatar
    Then why USA?
    Because Microsoft is based in the US and it's easiest to program and localize there first since that's where almost all of the people working on it are located. Also the initial voice functionality for Cortana is being voiced by the voice actress who plays Cortana in the Halo games. So it's easier to get everything recorded in English first and make sure everything is working.

    All of this has already been explained to death of course, and you already know this...but for some reason you persist in pretending you don't understand something for some sort of game, and it's not funny.

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    04-03-2014 01:40 PM
  7. Yonic Boom's Avatar
    Then why USA?
    Because it's the market they most want to make gains in. No matter how successful Microsoft is around the world with this platform, their poor market share in the US is a weakness for Windows Phone that impacts the willingness of carriers and vendors to adopt it.

    Additionally they're constructing the foundation for Cortana before rolling it out to additional markets, a process that will inevitably take time.

    There's nothing wrong with being disappointed, deciding that schedule doesn't work for you and moving to another platform. Accusing a company of racism because you're disappointed, however, is at best juvenile.
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    04-03-2014 01:40 PM
  8. KrisJoeEll's Avatar
    Then why USA?
    Microsoft is an American company with majority of native workers. Bringing Beta Cortana to Americans will help them fix bugs and errors (Watch the debut video @ build 2014) much more easily than beta testing in India (My country), China etc
    04-03-2014 01:41 PM
  9. Morpheus Phreak's Avatar
    WP. only bring waiting.
    Waiting for apps
    Waiting for games
    Waiting for basic features
    And now waiting for cortana.

    WP doesn't feel like Windows Phone, it more feels like Waiting Phone
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    04-03-2014 01:41 PM
  10. Morpheus Phreak's Avatar
    Folks don't bother. That's why I'm posting South Park pics now....at least I can get a small smile out of that since this person is intentionally acting like they don't understand.
    04-03-2014 01:42 PM
  11. KrisJoeEll's Avatar
    WP. only bring waiting.
    Waiting for apps
    Waiting for games
    Waiting for basic features
    And now waiting for cortana.

    WP doesn't feel like Windows Phone, it's feels more like Waiting Phone
    I feel like he is simply commenting just to annoy us now. :O
    Last edited by KrisJoeEll; 04-03-2014 at 01:57 PM.
    04-03-2014 01:44 PM
  12. Morpheus Phreak's Avatar
    Kris I'd edit that. I've nearly been banned for that single T word.
    04-03-2014 01:45 PM
  13. Yonic Boom's Avatar
    I would have liked to be a fly on the wall when the WP team came into Satya Nadella's office to explain their anti-Indian policy.
    04-03-2014 01:45 PM
  14. KrisJoeEll's Avatar
    Kris I'd edit that. I've nearly been banned for that single T word.
    Seriously?
    04-03-2014 01:47 PM
  15. Morpheus Phreak's Avatar
    I would have liked to be a fly on the wall when the WP team came into Satya Nadella's office to explain their anti-Indian policy.
    Indeed. Using the logic shown here he must be self-loathing since people claim this is racially motivated... I mean think about it. He must really hate the country in which he was born if they are telling the truth right?
    04-03-2014 01:48 PM
  16. Zeem Frostmaw's Avatar
    I feel like he is tr**ling now. :O
    Trolling? Nah. But he is being pretty condescending, no matter how much I agree with him.
    04-03-2014 01:49 PM
  17. Karthik Naik's Avatar
    what a comment.
    Siri wasn't available everywhere so, cortana is also not available everywhere.
    So, you mean MS is copying Apple.

    You should know Apple main market is US and Wp main market is whole world.
    Apple care for it's main market
    MS care ffor US only.
    i never said ms copied apple
    i choose to ignore u since we dont get along
    04-03-2014 01:49 PM
  18. Morpheus Phreak's Avatar
    Seriously?
    Dead serious. I currently have 160 points against me for pointing out the truth to people...because I do so bluntly and don't pull punches and that t word has gotten me in trouble... I even had a moderator warn me when I used it in a feedback post and it wasn't even aimed at anyone...

    See here for proof since it seems some folks here (not you) seem to require proof of every word I utter. :P

    http://forums.windowscentral.com/wpc...rum-posts.html
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    04-03-2014 01:50 PM
  19. Karthik Naik's Avatar
    Kris I'd edit that. I've nearly been banned for that single T word.
    yeah me too just last week and same guy too
    04-03-2014 01:50 PM
  20. ImmortalWarrior's Avatar
    You should really just look up my resume. My name is Shane Nokes. You'll see why I know what I know. I've already stated it several times outright...

    As regards the money... Microsoft intentionally holding out on other regions means they don't make money. Microsoft intentionally trying to be racist would upset people and prevent them from making money.

    They are in the business of making money, which means trying to get things to users as quickly as is feasible in order to make a profit from you.

    Even the stupidest person I've ever met realizes that a company has to have customers in order to make money, and you don't get customers by intentionally doing things to upset them.

    I mean seriously...that's logic for pre-schoolers.
    Everybody look, it's Shane Nokes!

    Apparently Shane Nokes needs to work on his reading comprehension. I basically agree with your mission inside this thread, but I think in your haste you have lumped me into the crowd of people ******** and whining when I was not. I made a comment specifically to counter your poutine analogy, which was fallacious and I justified it.

    However, my point was specific to Canada. Since you know so much, please explain why Canada - a country that shares much of it's cultural norms with the US - doesn't get voice features alongside the US?

    P.S. When you answer, try to be less of a condescending a**. You'll get more of that 'respect' you think Shane Nokes deserves.
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    04-03-2014 02:00 PM
  21. KrisJoeEll's Avatar
    Thanks @Morpheus Phreak.

    I will be getting the developer preview when it comes. I am hoping to use Cortana by changing the regional settings.
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    04-03-2014 02:01 PM
  22. Morpheus Phreak's Avatar
    Nope, not playing your game Immortal...as much as you want me to. I'm a little smarter than that, but nice try. F for eFFort. :)
    04-03-2014 02:01 PM
  23. rockstarzzz's Avatar
    Irrespective of whatever region Microsoft opts-in for first or second, what is a grave error here is - a world wide roll out isn't going to complete before 1 year from announcement. Yes ONE WHOLE YEAR. That is what we should be unhappy about. The fact that Microsoft has given Apple and Google one whole year to innovate on what they've already rolled out world wide (mostly) and are already collecting voice data from since at least 12 months. Microsoft should have come in full throttle with WP8.1 update and not such lack lustre key note speech with 4 or 5 key features, which at best are only catch up features. Microsoft should have had Cortana out of beta and in USA currently at least in full working stage, improving it for a world wide launch soon.

    I agree it has all the hurdles for a world wide launch but that doesn't justify playing catch up and being a year late in even that! Internet of things is another example of dreams out there in open for "Apple to innovate" and Google to copy before Microsoft does anything useful with it. Why? Because it is slow in executing.
    04-03-2014 02:03 PM
  24. rockstarzzz's Avatar
    Everybody look, it's Shane Nokes!

    Apparently Shane Nokes needs to work on his reading comprehension. I basically agree with your mission in hill this thread, but I think in your haste you have lumped me into the crowd of people ******** and whining when I was not. I made a comment specifically to counter your poutine analogy, which was fallacious and I justified it.

    However, my point was specific to Canada. Since you know so much, please explain why Canada - a country that shares much of it's cultural norms with the US - doesn't get voice features alongside the US?

    P.S. When you answer, try to be less of a condescending a**. You'll get more of that 'respect' you think Shane Nokes deserves.
    [WARN]Please refrain from making everything personal on this forum. No one is interested in making anyone look less of a man. Just let it go and stay on topic[/WARN]
    04-03-2014 02:04 PM
  25. Morpheus Phreak's Avatar
    [WARN]Please refrain from making everything personal on this forum. No one is interested in making anyone look less of a man. Just let it go and stay on topic[/WARN]
    Don't worry. It doesn't upset me and says far more about them than me. :)
    04-03-2014 02:05 PM
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