04-14-2014 07:43 AM
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  1. Panathas's Avatar
    Hi,
    I think we all understand that Cortana is powered by Bing and as Bing sucks outside the US they don't launch it worldwide. But why they don't let us use the non-Bing features like quite hours or set alarm? And don't tell me "speak recognition" is the problem. Speak recognition works outside the US just fine. That would be so much better and they people would complain much less about it. I rly don't understand why, thats not a big deal for such a big company to implement at least these tiny features (they are already there!!!).
    ven07 likes this.
    04-06-2014 07:22 AM
  2. ven07's Avatar
    Hi,
    I think we all understand that Cortana is powered by Bing and as Bing sucks outside the US they don't launch it worldwide. But why they don't let us use the non-Bing features like quite hours or set alarm? And don't tell me "speak recognition" is the problem. Speak recognition works outside the US just fine. That would be so much better and they people would complain much less about it. I rly don't understand why, thats not a big deal for such a big company to implement at least these tiny features (they are already there!!!).
    From what I understand you can get quiet hours and alarms if you're part of the "dev preview program".. Some of us think that by simply putting the phone on US region will allow you to update, but I would go for the first option :)
    04-06-2014 07:29 AM
  3. msirapian's Avatar
    As far as I understood, Cortana will be available with limited features in other languages and quite soon. Nokia France said that when Lumia 930 is released (~June), Cortana in French (with basic capabilities) should be available. So wait & see.
    ven07 likes this.
    04-06-2014 07:40 AM
  4. ven07's Avatar
    As far as I understood, Cortana will be available with limited features in other languages and quite soon. Nokia France said that when Lumia 930 is released (~June), Cortana in French (with basic capabilities) should be available. So wait & see.
    Wow if this is true than MS is "hauling ***" lol
    04-06-2014 07:50 AM
  5. rockstarzzz's Avatar
    It is in a way better not to have Cortana beta with less features worldwide right now. Did you read news when Siri was released with such strategy? It was beta and Apple launched it without localization and features in other countries at the same time. It got bad press and forums were flooded with people complaining "Siri is ****, doesn't do half the things" and that's how Siri jokes became so popular. Last thing we want Cortana to be is a joke!
    ven07 and Guytronic like this.
    04-06-2014 07:55 AM
  6. ven07's Avatar
    It is in a way better not to have Cortana beta with less features worldwide right now. Did you read news when Siri was released with such strategy? It was beta and Apple launched it without localization and features in other countries at the same time. It got bad press and forums were flooded with people complaining "Siri is ****, doesn't do half the things" and that's how Siri jokes became so popular. Last thing we want Cortana to be is a joke!
    True, I think the fact that Cortana was leaked so early made it hard for us WP lovers to wait any longer.. So the leak worked both ways for MS.. It kept them in the press, but also made it harder for the fans to wait
    04-06-2014 08:03 AM
  7. Panathas's Avatar
    It is in a way better not to have Cortana beta with less features worldwide right now. Did you read news when Siri was released with such strategy? It was beta and Apple launched it without localization and features in other countries at the same time. It got bad press and forums were flooded with people complaining "Siri is ****, doesn't do half the things" and that's how Siri jokes became so popular. Last thing we want Cortana to be is a joke!
    Do you know that Google has actually launched Google Now with less features (we still have less features here in Europe) also? I don't know where u live, but here in Germany the it press writes "not hitting germany in the next year" speaking of Cortana pretty often. I don't know if this is a better publicity....
    You could at least put it in the developer preview, that's for developers. Nobody would complain about less features....
    04-06-2014 08:09 AM
  8. ven07's Avatar
    Do you know that Google has actually launched Google Now with less features (we still have less features here in Europe) also? I don't know where u live, but here in Germany the it press writes "not hitting germany in the next year" speaking of Cortana pretty often. I don't know if this is a better publicity....
    You could at least put it in the developer preview, that's for developers. Nobody would complain about less features....
    But Cortana is in the dev preview? Daniel Rubino himself said it would be..
    04-06-2014 08:40 AM
  9. Panathas's Avatar
    For non-US regional settings dude....
    04-06-2014 08:44 AM
  10. ven07's Avatar
    For non-US regional settings dude....
    In that case no dude :P but i honestly don't see the problem.. Either you wait until late 2014 or the beginning 2015 depending on where you are located or just change your region to US
    04-06-2014 08:50 AM
  11. Panathas's Avatar
    Changing the whole phone to English restricts other language specific features. My idea is much more user friendly.

    Sent from my Lumia 1020 using Tapatalk
    ven07 likes this.
    04-06-2014 09:30 AM
  12. ven07's Avatar
    Aha i don't mind English on my phone lol and all my apps are from US.. Those that want to have their own language will have to wait until 2015.. I can't imagine waiting that long :o
    04-06-2014 09:33 AM
  13. Ankit Nawlakha's Avatar
    Hi,
    I think we all understand that Cortana is powered by Bing and as Bing sucks outside the US they don't launch it worldwide. But why they don't let us use the non-Bing features like quite hours or set alarm? And don't tell me "speak recognition" is the problem. Speak recognition works outside the US just fine. That would be so much better and they people would complain much less about it. I rly don't understand why, thats not a big deal for such a big company to implement at least these tiny features (they are already there!!!).
    That will be stupidity dude..!!
    Releasing full-featured Cortana only in the US is a good move.. Initially..!!
    So that cortana doesn't end up being the biggest disaster ever to Microsoft..!!
    Much like the case of Siri..!
    04-07-2014 01:28 AM
  14. wuiyang's Avatar
    04-07-2014 06:17 AM
  15. csd_images's Avatar
    If you have TellMe functionality I suspect that will continue until Cortana is fully rolled out. Cortana incorporates much of the functions of TellMe so it would makes in that aspect. Probably the biggest reasons for the US to get it first is that they are based in America so it's easier to put units out under NDA to test and also to do dogfooding giving the much needed data to make this work. If you have used TellMe/Voice Transcribing on your phone you're helping MS to roll out Cortanta by giving them valuable telemetrics.
    Last edited by csd_images; 04-07-2014 at 10:22 AM. Reason: Wrong wording
    04-07-2014 07:46 AM
  16. Panathas's Avatar
    If "quite hours" would just work without cortana....
    04-07-2014 09:16 AM
  17. Markham Ranja's Avatar
    That will be stupidity dude..!!
    Releasing full-featured Cortana only in the US is a good move.. Initially..!!
    So that cortana doesn't end up being the biggest disaster ever to Microsoft..!!
    Much like the case of Siri..!
    Nobody outside the US really cares about Apple, they dominate that market. So it's not a risk for Apple to launch Siri properly only in the US, since that's where the majority of their users are anyway. The small % of users in other countries can be safely ignored.

    However, this is not the case for WP. It's got negligible marketshare in the US and Apple has that market pretty well sewn up already. It is doing well in countries like India, Italy, the UK, etc. If users in these countries see the publicity about Cortana, they will have one more negative point against WP adding to the many that are already there.

    If I, as a user in India, go phone shopping and see that there are 3 phones, for similar prices - the iPhone 5S, SGS5, HTC M8 and e.g. the Nokia L1520. I know that the iOS and Android devices offer me a fully featured digital assistant (Google Now is great for Indian users with this). I know that with WP, I'm unlikely to get Cortana in India at least till 2015. Which do you think I will buy?
    04-07-2014 10:03 AM
  18. prasath1234's Avatar
    Nobody outside the US really cares about Apple, they dominate that market. So it's not a risk for Apple to launch Siri properly only in the US, since that's where the majority of their users are anyway. The small % of users in other countries can be safely ignored.

    However, this is not the case for WP. It's got negligible marketshare in the US and Apple has that market pretty well sewn up already. It is doing well in countries like India, Italy, the UK, etc. If users in these countries see the publicity about Cortana, they will have one more negative point against WP adding to the many that are already there.

    If I, as a user in India, go phone shopping and see that there are 3 phones, for similar prices - the iPhone 5S, SGS5, HTC M8 and e.g. the Nokia L1520. I know that the iOS and Android devices offer me a fully featured digital assistant (Google Now is great for Indian users with this). I know that with WP, I'm unlikely to get Cortana in India at least till 2015. Which do you think I will buy?
    Exactly if Microsoft won't care for India so Indians won't care for Microsoft nd purchase their droids.there is also a trend most lower end android owners starve nd save money to buy flagship.that's because they have become addicted to smartphone.in that case they will go for android os because of apps.its only how the os rekindles interest in the consumer.then consumer will be locked to particular ecosystem by reducing his other needs nd save money nd buy flagship that will happen in India very soon.at that juncture ms will loose those potential customers who will go for android or even Apple.

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    04-07-2014 10:12 AM
  19. tohoshinki's Avatar
    You guys realize that you'll be able to use Cortana outside of the USA if you enable USA region settings???? I live in Australia but I set my region to the USA to get the improved Bing Search app. It works just the same but I get more features. Stop complaining.
    04-07-2014 10:18 AM
  20. Ankit Nawlakha's Avatar
    Nobody outside the US really cares about Apple, they dominate that market. So it's not a risk for Apple to launch Siri properly only in the US, since that's where the majority of their users are anyway. The small % of users in other countries can be safely ignored.

    However, this is not the case for WP. It's got negligible marketshare in the US and Apple has that market pretty well sewn up already. It is doing well in countries like India, Italy, the UK, etc. If users in these countries see the publicity about Cortana, they will have one more negative point against WP adding to the many that are already there.

    If I, as a user in India, go phone shopping and see that there are 3 phones, for similar prices - the iPhone 5S, SGS5, HTC M8 and e.g. the Nokia L1520. I know that the iOS and Android devices offer me a fully featured digital assistant (Google Now is great for Indian users with this). I know that with WP, I'm unlikely to get Cortana in India at least till 2015. Which do you think I will buy?
    That will be the case only if you buy a phone just for a digital personal assistant..!!
    04-07-2014 11:41 AM
  21. Panathas's Avatar
    You guys realize that you'll be able to use Cortana outside of the USA if you enable USA region settings???? I live in Australia but I set my region to the USA to get the improved Bing Search app. It works just the same but I get more features. Stop complaining.



    you realize that not all people speak English? Also if set to English you don't have speak recognition for your language, you can't purchase apps and so on. That's not a solution. Its ok to try out cortana but not a good idea for daily use .





    Sent from my Lumia 1020 using Tapatalk
    04-07-2014 01:55 PM
  22. rockstarzzz's Avatar
    you realize that not all people speak English? Also if set to English you don't have speak recognition for your language, you can't purchase apps and so on. That's not a solution. Its ok to try out cortana but not a good idea for daily use .





    Sent from my Lumia 1020 using Tapatalk
    English is a global language. Generally for anything global unless it is Olympics or UN, order of languages is - English, French, Spanish then the rest.
    04-07-2014 03:04 PM
  23. Panathas's Avatar
    Ok, you don't get it. No problem, lets move on.

    Sent from my Lumia 1020 using Tapatalk
    04-07-2014 03:25 PM
  24. msirapian's Avatar
    English is a global language. Generally for anything global unless it is Olympics or UN, order of languages is - English, French, Spanish then the rest.
    Even so, Cortana-wise, French is reportedly coming after English (US then UK) and Chinese o_O
    04-12-2014 05:06 PM
  25. Talderon's Avatar
    I cannot speak to the roadmap of when Cortana is rolling out when and where, but I can speak to the fact that there is a LOT of work on the inside that has to go into getting her to work and live up to the expectations of everyone in different countries/regions. It's not just an app that you can roll out with localization which makes it appear in another language. It's a HUGE undertaking on the back end.

    Personally, I think it makes sense to launch it full here in the US before other markets.

    1. Microsoft is a US based company, so it makes sense they focus on US first releases
    2. Build up the hype and press here which will reach out globally
    3. Give some time for their user base to help ferret out some bugs/issue and offer feedback for enhancements before it hits globally

    I can name off more reasons, but I think it is smart for them to do it this way.

    Now, for those outside the US that want to try Cortana, just go into your Region settings and set it to United States and English and you can try it out. All other language settings in the phone should be preserved (KB and all that).

    Thanks
    04-12-2014 05:48 PM
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