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  1. LSDigital's Avatar
    Allright :)
    How many European countries are we talking about? Like... 1? 5? 10?? :p
    I know, voice recognition is something really hard, but we've come a long way on that!
    Once upon a time (like, 15 years ago) it took me about 20mins to turn off my Windows PC by using a voice recognition software! And all I needed was like, 5 mouse clicks :)
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    07-23-2014 10:05 AM
  2. murderman's Avatar
    Nope, I was kidding. :P

    Ok, I was kidding about kidding. India and Europe are looking good. I have been watching some of the testing and the real big holdback is the voice recognition.

    There are some shifts coming ahead on how Cortana is going to be released to markets which should allow us to shorten the timelines, but there may be some sacrifices needed in order to do that, so things are being weighed and balanced to see what is best for everyone.
    Well that's some good news for the other side of the world ..hopefully we in the us get it later on idk how I'm this patience - all i know is I'm happy for the other side of the world
    07-23-2014 10:16 AM
  3. icenote's Avatar
    For some reason, I lost some of the stuff that Cortana could do. For instance, when you ask her silly questions, she used to give witty replies.. not anymore.

    Also, I'm not getting weather weekly forecasts or traffic updates.

    And I'm not getting this events thing that is announced that everyone else is getting.

    Anyone else having these issues?
    07-23-2014 10:23 AM
  4. Silviu Bogusevschi's Avatar
    Probably a temporary issue.
    07-23-2014 10:31 AM
  5. mikeycl's Avatar
    For some reason, I lost some of the stuff that Cortana could do. For instance, when you ask her silly questions, she used to give witty replies.. not anymore.

    Also, I'm not getting weather weekly forecasts or traffic updates.

    And I'm not getting this events thing that is announced that everyone else is getting.

    Anyone else having these issues?
    Neo: What is it?
    Trinity: A lack of witty replies is usually a glitch in Cortana. It happens when they change something.
    07-23-2014 10:40 AM
  6. nicfromwales's Avatar
    Is there any news yet on whether Cortana UK will be able to manage Welsh and (more obscure) Scottish place names? I don't expect her to understand the Welsh language, but Cortana in Wales will be useless if she can't understand locations, particularly if she's going to be able to monitor train times and so on. Otherwise she's not a service for the UK, but only for England.
    TaffyTuck likes this.
    07-23-2014 10:40 AM
  7. smoledman's Avatar
    How will Cortana deal with regional UK accents?
    07-23-2014 10:51 AM
  8. smoledman's Avatar
    Is there any news yet on whether Cortana UK will be able to manage Welsh and (more obscure) Scottish place names? I don't expect her to understand the Welsh language, but Cortana in Wales will be useless if she can't understand locations, particularly if she's going to be able to monitor train times and so on. Otherwise she's not a service for the UK, but only for England.
    Siri Fails Scottish, Welsh and Irish! | Siri Crazy

    ​I suspect it's gonna be crazy hard for tech to crack this.
    07-23-2014 10:53 AM
  9. nicfromwales's Avatar

    ​I suspect it's gonna be crazy hard for tech to crack this.
    Yup, I expect so. Many locations in Wales use sounds that don't exist in the English alphabet. Without producing an entirely Welsh Cortana (never going to happen), I have no idea how Microsoft will deal with this. But I'm an insatiable consumer, with zero knowledge of how this all works, so I'll just stamp my foot until it's sore and expect some Microsoft magic.
    07-23-2014 10:58 AM
  10. nicfromwales's Avatar
    If you do decide to take on the Welsh challenge, Microsoft, start with Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch. If Cortana can say that, the rest becomes a lot easier.
    tgp, David P2, SpaceyO and 1 others like this.
    07-23-2014 11:04 AM
  11. tadevinney's Avatar
    wouldnt it be cheaper to just pay these other countries to speak english?
    07-23-2014 11:18 AM
  12. LSDigital's Avatar
    Holly mother....
    I've just sent me an sms with that name just to have her to read me that and it was... weird :p
    07-23-2014 11:20 AM
  13. smoledman's Avatar
    wouldnt it be cheaper to just pay these other countries to speak english?
    How imperialist of you.
    07-23-2014 09:50 PM
  14. dermotw's Avatar
    wouldnt it be cheaper to just pay these other countries to speak english?
    No need to pay, mate... just wait a generation or 2... :)
    07-24-2014 12:05 AM
  15. Panathas's Avatar
    Hey Talderon, usually I keep a close eye on things that happen in the next month, what about you? 😇
    Sent from my RM-875_eu_euro2_242 using Tapatalk
    07-24-2014 01:39 AM
  16. nicfromwales's Avatar
    No need to pay, mate... just wait a generation or 2... :)
    Tut, how many generations has it taken now? In a generation or two, the percentage of Welsh speakers is going to boom, as the middle aged folk who can't speak it are replaced by the kids and young adults who can.

    But this isn't about speaking Welsh to Cortana, it's about speaking English to her in Wales, where we have locations from Llanelli to Llandudno that she can't understand.
    07-24-2014 04:03 AM
  17. Trevor Jones's Avatar
    Tut, how many generations has it taken now? In a generation or two, the percentage of Welsh speakers is going to boom, as the middle aged folk who can't speak it are replaced by the kids and young adults who can.

    But this isn't about speaking Welsh to Cortana, it's about speaking English to her in Wales, where we have locations from Llanelli to Llandudno that she can't understand.
    Exactly.
    Cortana, plot me a route to Beddgelert
    Sorry, I can't find anywhere labelled bed-gel-et
    07-24-2014 06:28 AM
  18. Silviu Bogusevschi's Avatar
    I wish the Irish localization of Cortana will have a Cork accent, as strong as possible.
    07-24-2014 06:48 AM
  19. Wall iPhone's Avatar
    @Talderon, do you by any chance know what the amazing thing barnaclues was hinting about, that is coming to Windows Phone? I'm not asking what it is, just if you know what he's hinting about?
    07-24-2014 06:53 AM
  20. neo158's Avatar
    If you do decide to take on the Welsh challenge, Microsoft, start with Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch. If Cortana can say that, the rest becomes a lot easier.
    If the text to speech in Windows is anything to go by then Cortana is going to be an epic fail for Welsh place names, ironically I tried the same thing using Polish txt-to-speech in Windows and it pronounced Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch pretty much flawlessly.
    Silviu Bogusevschi likes this.
    07-24-2014 07:34 AM
  21. itzkavin's Avatar
    @Talderon, do you by any chance know what the amazing thing barnaclues was hinting about, that is coming to Windows Phone? I'm not asking what it is, just if you know what he's hinting about?
    He, by all chance, knows it! BUT he won't say :p
    07-24-2014 08:29 AM
  22. Pete's Avatar
    Talderon. Would it be possible to clarify the situation with Cortana here in the UK?

    From what I see from @CortanaLive, Cortana will be rolled out to DP UK users in the next few days or so. How does this affect those of us who are currently running the consumer version of WP8.1/Cyan? Will we get Cortana as well, or do we need to enrol in DP to get her? And those people who have 625/925/1520 phones who have never had DP?
    07-24-2014 08:39 AM
  23. Talderon's Avatar
    Talderon. Would it be possible to clarify the situation with Cortana here in the UK?

    From what I see from @CortanaLive, Cortana will be rolled out to DP UK users in the next few days or so. How does this affect those of us who are currently running the consumer version of WP8.1/Cyan? Will we get Cortana as well, or do we need to enrol in DP to get her? And those people who have 625/925/1520 phones who have never had DP?
    One way or another, the ONLY way to get Cortana is to be running Windows Phone 8.1+. There is no way to get her on anything less. It does not matter if you are running released or DP, as long as the OS level is 8.1 or higher you will have Cortana. Cyan is firmware which has no bearing on the OS as those running the DP can attest too since almost all of us are on Black and 8.1 is running fine. Cortana has no dependency on the firmware version other than what is required by the OS level.

    Ok, that was a long winded way of saying: Don't worry, Cortana will work. :D
    07-24-2014 09:05 AM
  24. Pete's Avatar
    Ok, so UK Cortana will be for all 8.1 users regardless of whether they're running DP or the consumer build.

    That's just plain awesome, thanks!
    07-24-2014 09:10 AM
  25. Talderon's Avatar
    Ok, so UK Cortana will be for all 8.1 users regardless of whether they're running DP or the consumer build.

    That's just plain awesome, thanks!
    Ok, there is a misconception about Developer Preview and Retail Release.

    People consider (and I did this myself) the Developer Preview to be BETA version of the OS. This is not the case. When we get a Developer Preview, we are getting the FULL RTM BITS for the CORE OS. Apps for the new OPS version? That is another story, but for all practical purposes, the OS is finished at this point. The Developer Preview program was conceived to allow developers early access to the OS so they can start updating their apps or write new ones for the new OS version. Microsoft just didn't make it hard for non-developers to get access to the bits. I mean, who would turn down thousands/millions of willing testers out there that are willing to do it for free?

    So, what you see is what you get. The only real difference with the Retail vs. Developer Preview release is the firmware update from Nokia that is going out side-by-side with the retail update. Even though the Lumia has a vast majority of the handsets out there for Windows Phone, we're not the only ones out there.

    I hope this clears things up a little and help people understand what's going on. :)
    07-24-2014 09:47 AM
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