03-22-2015 02:07 PM
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  1. anon(5344685)'s Avatar
    Hello everyone,

    So the news of CORTANA coming to rival platform is practically confirmed and there is just so much outcry that not many of you are even considering to look at it from the other side. This is MY point of view:

    In the recent months Microsoft has pushed for their services to be available on other platforms (Office, better Outlook app, Xbox Music and OneDrive) and this is according to their new strategy that moves from software to focus more on hardware and services (and we knew about that for months now). However a thing to note is the fact that these apps are not always so great in the way of design and they do not feel as natural as on Windows (both on phones and PC) and therefore if you really want the greatest experience, look no further but back to Microsoft! Yes maybe Office apps are little better right now on rival platforms, but the universal Office that is coming with W10 will make them look bleak. Going back to CORTANA, here the story WILL again be the same, although available on other platforms, it will not be as good as at "home". Microsoft clearly is doing a great doing, by opening their services to others because this creates something that have never existed for this company, which is the physical ability to "demo" what they have to offer for free to everyone, no matter the ecosystem. I do not understand the silly anger without any after thoughts, Windows phones are selling better than ever since all above has happened and Microsoft is literally flooding us with innovation... Surface, Windows 10, Hololens, Xbox ONE. I know better after being under this ecosystem for years that whatever Microsoft is doing these days means great things to come, as long as you trust them as they trust you, senseless ranting is not needed.

    Otherwise go ahead, chuck you WP and get your Android or iPhone and join parade of crying clowns there or maybe you fought their world is perfect ? ;)
    03-13-2015 01:08 PM
  2. Niraj Meena's Avatar
    I'm going to leave windows phone... No more WP
    03-13-2015 01:09 PM
  3. Niraj Meena's Avatar
    Microsoft sharing everything like mixradio, Cortana, HERE maps, outlook, etc... Now I started hating Microsoft
    anon(9226130), Athull and akks like this.
    03-13-2015 01:11 PM
  4. gpobernardo's Avatar
    Hello everyone,

    So the news of CORTANA coming to rival platform is practically confirmed and there is just so much outcry that not many of you are even considering to look at it from the other side. This is MY point of view:

    In the recent months Microsoft has pushed for their services to be available on other platforms (Office, better Outlook app, Xbox Music and OneDrive) and this is according to their new strategy that moves from software to focus more on hardware and services (and we knew about that for months now). However a thing to note is the fact that these apps are not always so great in the way of design and they do not feel as natural as on Windows (both on phones and PC) and therefore if you really want the greatest experience, look no further but back to Microsoft! Yes maybe Office apps are little better right now on rival platforms, but the universal Office that is coming with W10 will make them look bleak. Going back to CORTANA, here the story WILL again be the same, although available on other platforms, it will not be as good as at "home". Microsoft clearly is doing a great doing, by opening their services to others because this creates something that have never existed for this company, which is the physical ability to "demo" what they have to offer for free to everyone, no matter the ecosystem. I do not understand the silly anger without any after thoughts, Windows phones are selling better than ever since all above has happened and Microsoft is literally flooding us with innovation... Surface, Windows 10, Hololens, Xbox ONE. I know better after being under this ecosystem for years that whatever Microsoft is doing these days means great things to come, as long as you trust them as they trust you, senseless ranting is not needed.

    Otherwise go ahead, chuck you WP and get your Android or iPhone and join parade of crying clowns there or maybe you fought their world is perfect ? ;)
    Thanks for the insights

    I'm going to leave windows phone... No more WP
    What happened?
    anon(5344685) likes this.
    03-13-2015 01:13 PM
  5. dgr_874's Avatar
    Microsoft sharing everything like mixradio, Cortana, HERE maps, outlook, etc... Now I started hating Microsoft
    Try and think of it this way, If you love Microsoft services (like I do), then you have the freedom to chose any hardware you want and get the same great functions. If you like something on iOS, they use an iPhone. All your Microsoft services will be available to you. If you like a feature that only an Android phone has, then you are free to use it without interrupting your services.

    I know it seems like we are being left out in the cold by this move. But, it is honestly for the best for the company and it will give you more freedom.
    03-13-2015 01:17 PM
  6. Harrie-S's Avatar
    I'm going to leave windows phone... No more WP
    And were are you going, to android or iOS. You leave WP because Microsoft is "giving" apps to Android and iOS.
    Anyhow good luck.

    Bye the way
    Buying another phone and ditch your windows phone is indeed a very smart move . (and this is sarcastic)
    03-13-2015 01:18 PM
  7. theefman's Avatar
    Hello everyone,


    However a thing to note is the fact that these apps are not always so great in the way of design and they do not feel as natural as on Windows (both on phones and PC) and therefore if you really want the greatest experience, look no further but back to Microsoft!
    Any examples to back this claim up?

    I know better after being under this ecosystem for years that whatever Microsoft is doing these days means great things to come, as long as you trust them as they trust you, senseless ranting is not needed.
    Haven't we been hearing this for years already?
    jfitz44 likes this.
    03-13-2015 01:18 PM
  8. Zephyr716's Avatar
    I'm definitely leaving WP. Smh it's such a bad idea... I love Microsoft and WP bit this is plain wrong...
    03-13-2015 01:20 PM
  9. ashram's Avatar
    mixradio was/is in the process of being sold off. so not microsoft.
    Here is a Nokia property, not microsoft. As for everything else, they could keep it in house, but then it looses relevance. Office, for example, not on your platform? use one of the other sub-par choices available. The more people using their products, the more they can potentially make. MS is a business. Would you rather be with apple who barely shares ANYTHING outside of their ecosystem, or Google who selectively shares (with apple)?

    with MS apps being everywhere, an ecosystem that isn't limited by hardware or OS is becoming easier and easier. and it works! i have IOS and android using friends that are starting to get their feet wet with MS products.... and they like it. 1, who was "all in" with google is planning to jump over to MS products due to the simplicity for connecting and syncing natively with his Surface Pro!
    03-13-2015 01:23 PM
  10. Eustis99's Avatar
    Microsoft is trying to give everybody a taste of what they have to offer no matter the platform they use. I see no problems there. Also, it's obvious Cortana will not be as good on other devices compared to WP.
    03-13-2015 01:29 PM
  11. anon(9226130)'s Avatar
    Make it for IOS but not for android!!!!!!!! Plz Microsoft (I want to change to iPhone)
    03-13-2015 01:33 PM
  12. T Moore's Avatar
    First, Microsoft is a software company.
    Why are your surprised? You have seen the same thing over and over?
    snowmutt likes this.
    03-13-2015 01:37 PM
  13. EBUK's Avatar
    So, imagine I have an Android phone. I install, say, Outlook, only to discover it's not so good on Android. Am I....

    a) going to buy a Windows Phone so that I can have a better Outlook experience? - or-
    b) install a better email app?

    Hmm. I think the answer is obvious.
    03-13-2015 01:42 PM
  14. anon(5344685)'s Avatar
    Any examples to back this claim up?

    Try Xbox Music on iOS, it's slow and has simple and not original design like the native version.


    Haven't we been hearing this for years already?
    And have not you been rewarded with great phones with Wireless Charging before anyone else had it (and sensorcore) and the best mobile lenses on the market, and what about Surface tablets? And how about Xbox ONE, and what about all those gigabytes of cloud storage given away for which other would charge you.... and what about those endless bundles giving you accessories for free and what about free games with Gold, what else do you need ? Phones got the best virtual assistant, and you have your notification centre and folders and most of the apps are in the store and most of Windows Phone features will be also available on your pc, more than between iOS and Mavericks and definitely more than between Android and Chrome OS, and what about Windows apps coming to Xbox, HOLOLENS!?, Microsoft Band (which you can get outside of US from eBay daaaaah) etc, etc, etc..... Seriously what do you expect from Microsoft, because if you are crying about lack of Snapchat, then I am sorry but you should leave.
    03-13-2015 01:46 PM
  15. gpobernardo's Avatar
    Hello everyone,

    So the news of CORTANA coming to rival platform is practically confirmed and there is just so much outcry that not many of you are even considering to look at it from the other side. This is MY point of view:

    In the recent months Microsoft has pushed for their services to be available on other platforms (Office, better Outlook app, Xbox Music and OneDrive) and this is according to their new strategy that moves from software to focus more on hardware and services (and we knew about that for months now). However a thing to note is the fact that these apps are not always so great in the way of design and they do not feel as natural as on Windows (both on phones and PC) and therefore if you really want the greatest experience, look no further but back to Microsoft! Yes maybe Office apps are little better right now on rival platforms, but the universal Office that is coming with W10 will make them look bleak. Going back to CORTANA, here the story WILL again be the same, although available on other platforms, it will not be as good as at "home". Microsoft clearly is doing a great doing, by opening their services to others because this creates something that have never existed for this company, which is the physical ability to "demo" what they have to offer for free to everyone, no matter the ecosystem. I do not understand the silly anger without any after thoughts, Windows phones are selling better than ever since all above has happened and Microsoft is literally flooding us with innovation... Surface, Windows 10, Hololens, Xbox ONE. I know better after being under this ecosystem for years that whatever Microsoft is doing these days means great things to come, as long as you trust them as they trust you, senseless ranting is not needed.

    Otherwise go ahead, chuck you WP and get your Android or iPhone and join parade of crying clowns there or maybe you fought their world is perfect ? ;)
    In addition (and going back to the topic, since this is in the Cortana lounge), it is well known that Microsoft is gathering feedback from a lot of users in the background based on how they use Cortana (in addition to actual typed-in feedback). Releasing Cortana to other platforms could allow Microsoft to gather information on how users use (pardon the redundancy) "competitor" smart phones. This should provide MS additional information (and a lot of it!) they would need to further improve their services, which will then could be limited only to Windows Phones/Windows Devices. It's literally being able to gather real-time data from "competitor" markets. Sounds like a brilliant move to me.
    03-13-2015 01:51 PM
  16. anon(5344685)'s Avatar
    So, imagine I have an Android phone. I install, say, Outlook, only to discover it's not so good on Android. Am I....

    a) going to buy a Windows Phone so that I can have a better Outlook experience? - or-
    b) install a better email app?

    Hmm. I think the answer is obvious.
    No, because it's not terribly bad, actually I used Outlook on android before as well as all other apps and they are pretty good, except that they do not feel like something that is perfectly designed for Android which is why SOME people but not EVERYBODY may consider giving Windows phones a chance after using above on their platform, WHICH is better as oppose to not having this option at all AND having over 2 Billion Android and iOS devices activated makes the chances even greater. Amen.
    03-13-2015 01:56 PM
  17. JamesDax's Avatar
    It's a good move for MS. Let the cry babies cry.
    gpobernardo, mark233 and Guytronic like this.
    03-13-2015 01:58 PM
  18. anon(5344685)'s Avatar
    In addition (and going back to the topic, since this is in the Cortana lounge), it is well known that Microsoft is gathering feedback from a lot of users in the background based on how they use Cortana (in addition to actual typed-in feedback). Releasing Cortana to other platforms could allow Microsoft to gather information on how users use (pardon the redundancy) "competitor" smart phones. This should provide MS additional information (and a lot of it!) they would need to further improve their services, which will then could be limited only to Windows Phones/Windows Devices. It's literally being able to gather real-time data from "competitor" markets. Sounds like a brilliant move to me.
    Seconding that, another reason why the future with Microsoft may get way better than elsewhere.
    gpobernardo and snowmutt like this.
    03-13-2015 01:58 PM
  19. theefman's Avatar
    And have not you been rewarded with great phones with Wireless Charging before anyone else had it (and sensorcore) and the best mobile lenses on the market, and what about Surface tablets? And how about Xbox ONE, and what about all those gigabytes of cloud storage given away for which other would charge you.... and what about those endless bundles giving you accessories for free and what about free games with Gold, what else do you need ? Phones got the best virtual assistant, and you have your notification centre and folders and most of the apps are in the store and most of Windows Phone features will be also available on your pc, more than between iOS and Mavericks and definitely more than between Android and Chrome OS, and what about Windows apps coming to Xbox, HOLOLENS!?, Microsoft Band (which you can get outside of US from eBay daaaaah) etc, etc, etc..... Seriously what do you expect from Microsoft, because if you are crying about lack of Snapchat, then I am sorry but you should leave.
    One app that's not up to par does not equal a better experience for all MS apps, onenote, onedrive, Skype, Photosynth for a start are clearly better on ios and android.

    As for the things you claim I have been "rewarded" with some of those do not come from Microsoft and are not their creations, merely taking advantage of available features. Nokia was making great cameras before Microsoft came along so that's nothing they can claim to have "rewarded" me with. Xbox One? Its a game console, and games with gold is just a copy of what Sony is already doing, nothing groundbreaking or "reward" worthy there. You also seem to think I'm one of those people who start to hyperventilate when something "free' is given away, sorry but I'm not so all that storage free storage doesn't impress me as I have my own home server for my storage needs. Nor do the "those endless bundles giving you accessories for free", not sure what that's about. You rattle off names of things like they are supposed to be impressive but Im not sure how.

    Hololens, so what? Kinect was also hugely hyped, where did that end up, a glorified remote control. Best phone personal assistant? A matter of opinion

    None of that though is relevant to your statement that we should blindly trust Microsoft for "great things to come" when in 4+ years they have proven incapable of exploiting any of the things they were actually able to introduce in their phone OS. You seem to be someone who is totally impressed with anything Microsoft does but that doesn't work for me.

    Also, please point to ONE instance where I mentioned Snapchat. It appears you aren't capable of having an adult discussion so I wont try to anymore after this.
    03-13-2015 02:09 PM
  20. anon(5344685)'s Avatar
    One app that's not up to par does not equal a better experience for all MS apps, onenote, onedrive, Skype, Photosynth for a start are clearly better on ios and android.

    As for the things you claim I have been "rewarded" with some of those do not come from Microsoft and are not their creations, merely taking advantage of available features. Nokia was making great cameras before Microsoft came along so that's nothing they can claim to have "rewarded" me with. Xbox One? Its a game console, and games with gold is just a copy of what Sony is already doing, nothing groundbreaking or "reward" worthy there. You also seem to think I'm one of those people who start to hyperventilate when something "free' is given away, sorry but I'm not so all that storage free storage doesn't impress me as I have my own home server for my storage needs. Nor do the "those endless bundles giving you accessories for free", not sure what that's about. You rattle off names of things like they are supposed to be impressive but Im not sure how.

    Hololens, so what? Kinect was also hugely hyped, where did that end up, a glorified remote control. Best phone personal assistant? A matter of opinion

    None of that though is relevant to your statement that we should blindly trust Microsoft for "great things to come" when in 4+ years they have proven incapable of exploiting any of the things they were actually able to introduce in their phone OS. You seem to be someone who is totally impressed with anything Microsoft does but that doesn't work for me.

    Also, please point to ONE instance where I mentioned Snapchat. It appears you aren't capable of having an adult discussion so I wont try to anymore after this.
    Ok I agree, above is just throwing lots of different things at you that Microsoft have done, however these are not of no value but to bring the company up to speed with the changes happening around. Microsoft has touched so many different areas of digital world that for once making it suitable for everyone is not easy, so what is it that you expect if I may ask?
    03-13-2015 03:21 PM
  21. mark233's Avatar
    I'm OK with all this. I prefer Windows OS on phone so that's my first choice but it will be good to know that when I use my iPhone I'll still have great Microsoft services at my disposal.
    gpobernardo and snowmutt like this.
    03-13-2015 04:18 PM
  22. massifheed's Avatar
    The increase of MS apps on other operating systems says to me that within the next two years Microsoft will bin Windows Phone, and get out of the phone hardware business.

    If they have their software on other platforms and people are using it, then that's all they're really concerned about. And they'll have millions more users on Android and iOS than they could ever hope to get on Windows Phone.

    Windows Phone was a worthy effort, even though a lot of the problems have been of their own making. But no company is going to continue pouring millions into a mobile platform year on year for single digit market share which still isn't really improving.

    I still like WP. It's my OS of choice. But in all honesty, I prefered WP7. They just needed to fix the small number of things that were wrong with it, rather than these large changes to the OS that have removed a lot of what was great in WP7.

    My contract is up soon, and for me it'll be down to whichever is released first, a flagship Lumia, or the next iPhone. Given that I'll be able to get all the MS services I want on iOS the choice of operating system doesn't mean much to me anymore.

    This isn't a rant. Just how I see things as a consumer, and not a fan of either Apple or MS.
    03-13-2015 05:07 PM
  23. paulxxwall's Avatar
    It's a good move for MS. Let the cry babies cry.
    No its not.
    03-13-2015 05:28 PM
  24. ven07's Avatar
    Releasing Cortana to other platforms could allow Microsoft to gather information on how users use (pardon the redundancy) "competitor" smart phones. This should provide MS additional information (and a lot of it!) they would need to further improve their services, which will then could be limited only to Windows Phones/Windows Devices. It's literally being able to gather real-time data from "competitor" markets. Sounds like a brilliant move to me
    This!!!!!!! ^ ^
    03-13-2015 06:41 PM
  25. Geddeeee's Avatar
    Well WP10 is around the corner, so those thinking of 'leaving WP' should do just that. Clear out the 'dead wood' so to speak....
    vEEP pEEP likes this.
    03-13-2015 07:11 PM
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