09-17-2018 04:05 PM
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  1. enduserbestpractice's Avatar
    i have an invoke speaker . it is at the same place when i purchased it. not impress with the plan that they have a plan.

    i truly miss my windows phone, it did everything, now all this is a frankenstin monster. nothing
    is a homengonist echo system that they own. it is a cluge of peices. the important tools that i found i used most was in the car. having a phone i could speak to to say call somome on, pick up a call,
    message some one , read that message i just received, text some one, and it would ask what i wanted to say, at the end would check , add more, try again, or send it. i could go in my car and say play this song or artist and it would play, and i could do email via voice commands to my phone via my blue tooth connection in my car, now it does nothing, wants me to press here, clcik here, and read this , it is a typical 80 % half backed, completed microsoft project on android at this point.
    I forgot it synced my pictures to my one drive.

    of course Google does all this now. Cortana overlay can now,, why do one thing on my phone. and anther in my house or on my pc. oh yea , like the commercial says with the kid playing in the back yard. whats a PC>

    Cortana is not the only player going for enterprise for digital assistance. much competition and much innovation you can see daily.

    they had a great echo system that worked, and they destroyed it, many years of hoping they would do things right and big disappointments.
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    07-10-2018 05:50 PM
  2. fatclue_98's Avatar
    The recent (?) integration with Outlook is intriguing. Cortana sets a reminder for me if I mention in an email that "I'll let you know later". The cynic in me has reservations about some AI going through my email but I can see where some would dig it. Package tracking has always been there and I do like the calendar events it sets up on delivery day. Of course there's the reading out loud of SMS while on Bluetooth which should be a requirement if you're driving.
    Timbre70, mark233 and Andrew G1 like this.
    07-10-2018 06:41 PM
  3. Dean478's Avatar
    I want to use her, simply because my primary machine is a Windows desktop, but she is totally useless to Australian users. There is no competition with the features on my Android phones' Google AI. On an android phone I can't even utilise hands-free operation which makes it less feasible than Google Assistant and impractical when driving.

    A simple example:

    "Hey Google, How long will it take me to get to work?" will yield me traffic updates, the fastest route and if I'm in the car, an offer to start navigating.

    "Hey Cortana, How long will it take me to get to work?" will give me a useless Bing search with forum questions about "how to get to work faster" and won't even utilise the built in Windows map app or my places associated with my Microsoft account.

    There is no integration with OneNote, Outlook or To-Do/Outlook Tasks which means I can't even use her for basic organisation. Being forced to use nothing but Bing and Microsoft Edge doesn't help either. I use Edge, but I prefer Google for most of my searches as I simply get better results.

    I want it to succeed so there are options, but they've dropped the ball big time to non-US users.
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    07-10-2018 08:20 PM
  4. enduserbestpractice's Avatar
    Cortana value disappeared for me, no user interfaces.

    i and my family loved and used cortan user interface in my car for managing end to tasks with voice commands.
    as many others many spend many hours commuting in back and forth to work so an interface in the
    auto is essential and a paramount needed feature.

    I had to dump it once they made it useless on windows Phone with voice command stop working. they forced me to go to android. their Microsoft launder is useless if you need help voice commanding your communications while driving,

    no ability to say hey cortana "text Russ" then ask what you wanted to say, then gave you then asked if you want to send it , try again, or add more, then you could tell it to send,
    windows phone with Crotona used to manage email phone and text with voice commands
    perfectly.



    I have an invoke, and it is really behind the rest of the curve. it can do basics. I can't aske to
    read me a recipe in the kitchen or read a book to a child.

    most things I ask it to do it says I can't help you with this right now. but i'm learning all the time.
    I ask some of the things for over a year now and no change,

    the other digital assistants are running rings around it.

    Microsoft was doing auto voice commands years ago. but dismantled it ability daily.
    now this is all new technology that goggle is showing off in commercials.

    so I had to go with google, if I want to be able to manage email, text messaging, phone calls, with voice commands.

    why would I want to use google on my phone and Cortana on my pc. it needs to be one package not a Frankenstein.
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    07-10-2018 08:39 PM
  5. Andrew G1's Avatar
    I live in the US and have a Windows PC and an Android phone. Cortana syncs my messages across devices, so that's good. And sometimes I ask Cortana on my desktop for the weather verbally, which works fine. I also like the little Easter eggs, like "tell me a joke." But that's about it. Cortana has a hell of a time remembering my recent documents - basically, she doesn't. Timeline has since helped solve this in some ways. Cortana on both my phone and PC are hit and miss with flight updates and packages, and frankly, even the weather. Sometimes it simply doesn't show the weather from some of my saved locations. (The darksky skill doesn't help at all; none of the skills seem to work.) Cortana's Outlook/Mail integration is horrible, and the integration with To-Do is nonexistent. (Why the hell is there a second to-do list platform in Cortana???) Maps, location and commute functionality are horribly basic. There are now two ways to get to Cortana on Android: the Microsoft Launcher and the Cortana Android app, but they don't seem to work together or coordinate, so what the hell? It's so confusing. You seem to need Cortana to sync your Edge data across devices, but it never really seems to work, no matter which Cortana app us installed. It's clearly all half-baked. I left Google's AI platform (under its various names) because it kept feeding me news even when I tried to disable it. But now that you really can disable news in your feed, I'm thinking of going back to Google/Google Assistant, since it does the basics on mobile well, whereas Cortana fails very often.
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    07-11-2018 10:45 AM
  6. Hirox K's Avatar
    at first they rallied around and proclaimed it the best thing ever.
    Story sounds just like any discounted products / services from Google, Apple, Sony, Acer, etc...

    Cortana, Alexa, Siri whatever VA, not interested in using'em, esp when I'm in the office or in public.

    AI + Azure + ROME across IOT, AR, MR, PC, ARM, Xbox and Server for devs is more interesting and more accessible.
    07-11-2018 01:11 PM
  7. nate0's Avatar
    Seriously. Why?
    I guess why not. Cortana was neat when most first took notice as W10/W10M arrived. Identifying songs (deprecated), witty, telling jokes, singing songs etc. Then Cortana could sync content, experiences and info across your device(s). Then Cortana was in a speaker. Cortana is not hurting Windows in my opinion. You can turn it off at least if you have to.

    I don't use assistants much or try not to. I honestly don't like them, they kinda weird me out. Siri I never used while owning an iPhone, never turned it on unless by mistake. Google's assistant I never setup turn off or deactivate if possible when using Android. Though you can never really disable Googles AI tools on some devices. It and Google easily get knee deep into your information after you tap OK. Cortana gets use from me because I use Windows 10 every day. Even if Cortana was a trendy creation at the time it can be useful if given ways to do so. I see it as a form of entertainment in some ways yet in other ways a tool. I wish Microsoft could some how grant more granular control over how Cortana can be used. I don't have a specific example on this, but it just seems their could be more options or finer details in how she can use the information we approve to be used.
    07-11-2018 01:57 PM
  8. sporosarcina's Avatar
    I have Cortana set on my Android because I have a Surface and various W10 work computers (miss my 950). The integration across all of them is worth the slight decrease in functionality from Google Assistant (and it is slight in my case). I don't know where the posters above get their experiences but Cortana is very functional for my daily use.
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    07-11-2018 03:33 PM
  9. fatclue_98's Avatar
    I have Cortana set on my Android because I have a Surface and various W10 work computers (miss my 950). The integration across all of them is worth the slight decrease in functionality from Google Assistant (and it is slight in my case). I don't know where the posters above get their experiences but Cortana is very functional for my daily use.
    Different languages or non-US or UK countries? Some of the posts are describing their experiences on Android which have no correlation with the experience on a Windows phone. Until Siri is available on Android and Windows and Google Assistant is available on iOS and Windows, there should be no cross-platform discussion.
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    07-11-2018 06:30 PM
  10. Wevenhuis's Avatar
    Good question. I have not had the priveledge to experience the value of Cortana, simply because there is no region and language support for Cortana in my region. English will not be the primary language to use Cortana in daily activities. False promises of the hype ever since Tell me on windows phone 7. I've given up on Cortana long ago.
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    07-12-2018 07:30 AM
  11. TgeekB's Avatar
    Good question. I have not had the priveledge to experience the value of Cortana, simply because there is no region and language support for Cortana in my region. English will not be the primary language to use Cortana in daily activities. False promises of the hype ever since Tell me on windows phone 7. I've given up on Cortana long ago.
    Good point. Typical MS.
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    07-12-2018 05:21 PM
  12. Roscojim's Avatar
    Cortana was awesome on my 950XL. On my Note 8, it stinks. I miss the integration with my car, etc.
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    07-24-2018 08:51 PM
  13. Elky64's Avatar
    Good question. I have not had the priveledge to experience the value of Cortana, simply because there is no region and language support for Cortana in my region. English will not be the primary language to use Cortana in daily activities. False promises of the hype ever since Tell me on windows phone 7. I've given up on Cortana long ago.
    Never experienced Cortana either as it took way too long getting up to speed in my region, actually don't think it ever did fully. Essentially MS lollygagged way too long for my liking so I too gave up on her a loooong time ago.
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    07-25-2018 06:34 AM
  14. Jcmg62's Avatar
    Cortana has been around for years, but it seems to be plagued with problems. It struggles with even basic stuff.

    Example, this morning I set a voice reminder and it went something like this:

    "Hey Cortana, remind me to visit the card factory website at 8 pm tonight."

    It repeats back to me is "ok, I'll remind you to visit the card factory website is twenty o'clock tonight."

    What the heck is twenty o'clock???

    Come on people, Cortana has been around for 4 years now. That's more than enough time to nail down the basics.

    If I were a new Cortana user and heard it refer to 8 PM as twenty o'clock I'd assume the app was some garage project put together by a couple of computer science students.

    Besides the fact that it's only available in a handful of countries, and it's generally about as useful as a chocolate teapot outside of the USA, it can't even tell the time properly.

    Oh, Microsoft. Just why?
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    07-29-2018 04:14 AM
  15. etphoto's Avatar
    Cortana has been around for years, but it seems to be plagued with problems. It struggles with even basic stuff.

    Example, this morning I set a voice reminder and it went something like this:

    "Hey Cortana, remind me to visit the card factory website at 8 pm tonight."

    It repeats back to me is "ok, I'll remind you to visit the card factory website is twenty o'clock tonight."

    What the heck is twenty o'clock???

    Come on people, Cortana has been around for 4 years now. That's more than enough time to nail down the basics.

    If I were a new Cortana user and heard it refer to 8 PM as twenty o'clock I'd assume the app was some garage project put together by a couple of computer science students.

    Besides the fact that it's only available in a handful of countries, and it's generally about as useful as a chocolate teapot outside of the USA, it can't even tell the time properly.

    Oh, Microsoft. Just why?
    20 O'clock is, I assume, 2000 hrs, which is 8PM military time. I stopped using Cortana when MS killed their mobile so I can't remember, is there a setting in Cortana to not use military time?

    Sent from mTalk
    07-30-2018 11:08 AM
  16. Andrew G1's Avatar
    Flight status? Package delivery tracking? Commuting times and routes? Hell, a consistent weather experience? Cortana can't do any of it. To be fair, Google still struggles with some of these things. (Um, Google? I don't drive, so stop giving me driving navigation.) But whoever is developing Cortana has clearly given up for the consumer. It's so bad, just look at the suggested questions for Cortana: "Who dies in Star Wars?" Bing brings up stories about a Star Wars actor who passed away. Totally, utterly stupid. Whoever is worried about AI taking over the world should really calm down.
    08-07-2018 02:02 PM
  17. RalphieD's Avatar
    The Package delivery tracking for me works well. After entering the information, I ask Cortana using my Invoke and it give me the same information as if I went to the website. It works for USPS, and UPS so far. I have not done the flight Status yet though.

    For what I do, I like it, in fact I have two Invokes in my house and use them. I am finding out different things it can weekly. I just discovered the "snooze" ability for alarms.
    08-08-2018 12:08 PM
  18. HeyCori's Avatar
    Recently I've struggled to understand why I'm sticking with Cortana as my go-to voice assistant. I even bought an Invoke which I use to control my Philips Hue lights. It was only several months ago Microsoft was really beating their chest about how more devices would be released with full Cortana support and since then... that GLAS device that Dan reviewed last week? I mean, Cortana fans are super thirsty at this point. And much like Apple with Siri, Microsoft seems content with letting other voice assistants take the lead. Now we hear that Alexa is coming to the Xbox, maybe even getting a dedicated app on the Windows Store, and there's even a rumor that some OEMs might use it as the default assistant for Windows 10. Well, it seems as if the writing's on the wall and that Google/Amazon has already won the fight against Microsoft/Apple.
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    09-17-2018 04:05 PM
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