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  1. Niavlys77's Avatar
    Awesome :)
    03-12-2014 10:02 AM
  2. Keith Wallace's Avatar
    Does VLC not support Blu-Ray playback? VLC supports everything...And what store is that? That's the logo from Aldi in the U.S. Aldi is a grocery store here, so that they sell a computer is rather weird. It actually doesn't seem like a terrible deal, though.

    For the case fans, you use the PSU cables. Click on the image: http://files.cablewholesale.com/hires/atx-p4350w.jpg

    The 4-pin cables (the 1x4 ones, not the 2x2 one) you see in that picture are for fan cables.
    03-12-2014 10:19 AM
  3. QwarkDreams's Avatar
    Nope. It requires a little "hack" but it doesn't seem to work with Vista.

    Yes, it's Aldi. I didn't know they have store in the US too. But in Austria it's called "Hofer" (and in Italy Ildi^^). They sell desktops and laptops (also tablets and smartphones, all by Medion) a few times over the year (like every 3 months).
    An i5 may be nice for this price but no mention on the mainboard and RAM (how many RAM slots are free/filled, how many PCI/e slots does it have, ...). Also no clue on how much wattage the PSU can supply and what brands they are. The GPU seems to be a non-retail version, since the GTX 745M is for laptops only. With so many things unknown I wouldn't buy it anymore (also: no word on what manufacturer). I've got lucky that one time, since it worked fine for almost 6 years but now that I've experienced the joy and stress of assembling my own PC I wouldn't want a pre-assembled one off the shelf.

    Ah, the one on the top of the other cables. But my case fans only have 3 pins. Do they fit? (unfortunately I can't try it on my own since I don't have my PSU yet :-/ )

    I think this thread deserves a different title, since it escalated quite a bit (from "What's the difference between AMD and Intel CPUs?" to "How do I assemble my own desktop?")^^
    03-12-2014 10:44 AM
  4. Keith Wallace's Avatar
    I'm not quite sure, since I haven't seen any 3-pin fan connectors before. A quick Internet search says you will probably need to buy an adapter (the 4-pin is apparently called "Molex"), which were about $4 on Amazon (not sure how much they'd be there). However, you should be fine with the single fan right now, if you don't mind it.
    03-12-2014 12:38 PM
  5. QwarkDreams's Avatar
    Better 2 fans than none. I'll keep that in mind. But are there even mainboards with more than 2 chassis fan header? I could have up to 6 fans installed in my case (2x front, 2x top, 1x bottom, 1x back). Would I need a better (more high-end) mainboard or are the only options to a) connect them with the PSU (and have no speed control) and b) connect them to a fan speed control panel (mounted in the front 5.25" dock) and then connect them to the PSU?

    Also, do I need to worry about humidity in my case? My current one came with a little bag of those "plastic" balls attached to it inside.

    Edit: I just read that my mainboard has 2x Chassis fan connector 4pin and 1x Power fan connector 3pin (plus the 2x cpu fan connectors 3pin and 4pin).
    But it would be nice to have a solution ready in case (no pun intended^^) I want to install more fans.

    I'm also keeping my eyes open for dust filters. A friend of mine just posted a picture of his CPU fan he took out for cleaning and this gave me the motivation to find a way to keep dust away from my PCs inner organs (complete dust-free would be impossible but at least keep it to a minimum).
    Last edited by QwarkDreams; 03-12-2014 at 03:58 PM.
    03-12-2014 02:21 PM
  6. Muessig's Avatar
    This thread has clearly grown beyond the AMD vs Intel subject that started it off. Stickying it.
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    03-13-2014 02:23 PM
  7. QwarkDreams's Avatar
    Little update on the first post.
    03-13-2014 06:55 PM
  8. QwarkDreams's Avatar
    wp_20140314_17_14_36_pro.jpg

    I only put the parts together (didn't turn it on yet). Also I have to do the cable management.
    03-14-2014 11:55 AM
  9. QwarkDreams's Avatar
    Little update: my PC is now fully functional.
    Had a little problem with the hdd but I got it working.
    Must say that Windows 8.1 is very different from Vista.
    03-17-2014 02:31 AM
  10. Muessig's Avatar
    Good to hear its running! How are you finding its performance and adjusting to WP8.1?
    03-17-2014 02:33 AM
  11. QwarkDreams's Avatar
    The performance is great! Not comparable to Vista at all. With vista on an hdd it took the PC well over a minute to boot. Now with 8.1 on the ssd and fast boot enabled it boots in about 5sec!

    The interface is quite different and I have to adjust even in the explorer (looks like Word from the Windows 7 era).
    I have to say I dislike the way programs are displayed (next to the apps). But I don't want to put a different shell on it.
    03-17-2014 03:38 AM
  12. Keith Wallace's Avatar
    I'm not quite sure what you're describing there at the end, care to elaborate?
    03-17-2014 04:13 AM
  13. QwarkDreams's Avatar
    A friend suggested that I should install classic shell' which brings back the interface known from xp/Vista/7 (taskbar, program list,...).
    03-17-2014 04:52 AM
  14. Keith Wallace's Avatar
    I don't really see it as necessary myself. If you right-click the Start button in the bottom-right, you get the menu with things like File Explorer and Task Manager and Control Panel. I suppose it depends on how many programs you use on your PC, though.
    03-17-2014 07:47 AM
  15. QwarkDreams's Avatar
    I think it's just for those people who don't want to deal with the new interface and keep the looks they are used to (i.e. XP, Vista, 7).

    It's a real change for me - coming from Vista and working with it for about 6 years - but it's okay.
    I'm just used to the way programs were accessed in Vista but I'm sure after time I'll adapt to it, so no biggie.

    The problem that occured with the HDD was quite odd. It was listed in UEFI and I could find it under device management but it didn't show up in the explorer. I had to create a new volume with it using the device management so it got a letter (D:\, E:\, etc.) and after a restart it showed up.
    03-17-2014 10:45 AM
  16. Rich Edmonds's Avatar
    Nice build. Should last you some time. I built mine back in 2012 (July) and haven't upgraded/replaced a thing yet. Runs pretty much all modern games on high, if not highest settings with solid FPS (when not recording). Here's a quick pic (note that the graphics card is passive with no fan):

    system_screen_20140317.jpg

    Just in case anyone reads through this thread and freaks out about AMD. They're solid chips and worth the buck. 4 fans in total. 2 on the front with dust filters. 1 on the rear. 1 on the CPU.
    Muessig likes this.
    03-17-2014 11:22 AM
  17. squadz's Avatar
    Lots of great information here.
    03-17-2014 05:46 PM
  18. QwarkDreams's Avatar
    Nice build. Should last you some time. I built mine back in 2012 (July) and haven't upgraded/replaced a thing yet. Runs pretty much all modern games on high, if not highest settings with solid FPS (when not recording). Here's a quick pic (note that the graphics card is passive with no fan):

    Just in case anyone reads through this thread and freaks out about AMD. They're solid chips and worth the buck. 4 fans in total. 2 on the front with dust filters. 1 on the rear. 1 on the CPU.
    How do you get by with "only" ~600GB of storage? Do you have an external HDD that wasn't connected when you used Speccy?
    03-18-2014 06:15 AM
  19. Niavlys77's Avatar
    Regarding Windows 8, the best way to find your programs is just go to your start screen and start typing. From there, you can right click and pin the programs to your start screen, or to your taskbar.

    You'll get used to it I'm sure - oh and Windows 8.1 Update 1 will make things a tad more intuitive with keyboard/mouse, so that's something to look forward to.
    03-18-2014 01:27 PM
  20. QwarkDreams's Avatar
    Yeah, my cousin showed me this feature but I'm really used to the "traditional" way programs were listed in Windows^^ But since I don't wanna be one of those "in my days things were better"-guys I'll have to adapt :-P

    So, since one of my ext. HDDs (the LaCie with 1.5TB) is acting up weird (doesn't show up in "This PC" anymore after it went into hibernation and only shows up/works again after turning it off/on; just to be sure I copied everything to my 2nd ext. HDD and int. HDD but the space is getting scarce) I'm looking for a replacement. I'll most likely get another WD Caviar Red 1TB. Only 1TB because I read that after 1TB the failure rate doubles and Red because I tend to let movies, tv shows, audio books or music run in the background while learning, gaming, etc which can take up to 10 hours on weekends and up to 6 hours on weekdays. I'll just use it for media (music/videos/pics) but it's already about 700GB of data. Which makes me think: Should I get 1x 1TB next month and another 1x 1TB later OR 1x 2TB? (since it's already about 700GB only 1TB would likely be not enough) Since it's only for videos/music I should be okay with a WD Red or an equal one by Seagate, right?

    Also: I have 8 USB ports (4x 3.0, 4x 2.0) already connected to the motherboard (6x on the back panel, 2 on the front). I'm currently using 7 of them (2x ext. HDD, mouse, keyboard, ODD, ext. soundcard and XBox 360 controller). Since the back is fully connected and I'd like front to free for the purpose of connecting 2 USB thumb drives, I'd like to install an extention card (either PCI or with cables for the USB on-board header). What would you guys suggest is better?

    I could use an USB hub for the mouse and keyboard and/or buy an int. soundcard (I'm kind of a audiophile) and/or ditch the ext. HDD that is acting up for an int. HDD with hot-swap-function and a case for HDDs?
    Last edited by QwarkDreams; 03-18-2014 at 06:50 PM.
    03-18-2014 03:31 PM
  21. QwarkDreams's Avatar
    Wanted to put some rubber pins on my case fans so the vibrations won't be transferred to the case. Turns out I only can install them in the exhaust-fan because the 2 in the front are mounted very inconveniently to the hdd cage. I could exchange the bottom one (which I will) but getting the top one out will be a pain in the ***. Also the rubber pins won't fit there.

    But as I had the case open anyway, I decided to do some cable management.
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    I think it's a great improvement compared to the first setup :-)

    Oh, btw: small update on the first post.
    If you have suggestions/corrections please let me know (PM or post it here).
    gedzum likes this.
    03-28-2014 09:54 PM
  22. gedzum's Avatar
    Nice job man!
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    03-29-2014 01:12 PM
  23. QwarkDreams's Avatar
    This is my plan for fan installation (mustn't all at once, just to be ready for the hot summer since it gets up to 40C here).

    case-fans.png

    I'll most likely get the ones from Corsair (SP/AF120 and AF140), preferably with LEDs or I'll go with the normal ones and install some LEDs myself in the case (aiming for a Trick or Treat look, eventough I ain't got that much orange parts inside my case and no watercooling). I want an SP120 in the bottom front because the air stream has to get through the HDD cage).
    gedzum likes this.
    03-29-2014 01:49 PM
  24. gedzum's Avatar
    That's a nice case and theme you are going for. I looked back in the thread to see what build you ended up with. I saw you have the same SSD as me! high five bro :D Although I decided to pick up the 250GB one to install a few games on it.
    03-31-2014 03:38 AM
  25. QwarkDreams's Avatar
    That's a nice case and theme you are going for. I looked back in the thread to see what build you ended up with. I saw you have the same SSD as me! high five bro :D Although I decided to pick up the 250GB one to install a few games on it.
    Thanks!
    Unfortunately I didn't get more black/orange components (Gigabyte has a gorgeous MoBo but it costs about 260-300€). You can check it out in the link in my previous post.
    I decided to go with the 120GB version since I got a gift card for a local store and got it for only 55€ instead of 85€. I only have the OS, drivers and essential programs on it (and unfortunately some stuff from programs that didn't let me choose where it will be installed -_-).
    Win 8.1 now boots in about 5sec which is pretty amazing and totally worth the high cost (compared to an HDD with more storage).
    03-31-2014 04:15 AM
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