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  1. mase123987's Avatar
    Thanks for the first impressions! If you have a moment, I'm really curious to ask a few questions:
    - How usable are MS Word and Excel without a keyboard, mouse, or stylus? I figured that a stylus would be a necessity for being productive on an 8" device while on-the-go (so you can write like using a pen). For instance, when editing a MS Word document or commenting on a PDF.
    - Did they also have the 64 GB version at your local Walmart? And the stylus?
    - What happens to desktop applications (non-Metro) when you rotate the tablet? Do the windows automatically "maximize" at the new, rotated resolution and zoom level? What about full-screen apps (e.g. games and movies). I can't imagine how old versions of windows would have behaved if you suddenly changed the resolution mid-game...

    It is great to hear about your real, hands-on experiences. I've been pretty excited about these new 8" Bay Trail devices.
    Word and Excel are still best with mouse and keyboard. I wouldn't do any large amount of typing without a keyboard. That said, considering it has bluetooth and a functional micro USB port, you can add any keyboard/mouse you desire.

    Walmart only had the 32GB version, and no accessories were available. The device wasn't even on the floor yet either. I had to ask for it by name.

    I haven't done any full screen games and rotated the screen yet so I can't speak to it. Normal windows would rotate properly, maximized or not. You can flip your desktop's monitor and tell the computer you did and it will rotate properly. Only difference is that your desktop monitor doesn't have the hardware to tell the computer to do it automatically.
    10-28-2013 02:42 PM
  2. Keith Wallace's Avatar
    A couple of questions:

    1. Why the Venue over the T100? Considering the ASUS option comes with the dock and Office (not sure if the Venue comes with the latter), I'm curious as to what this thing offers over the ASUS solution. Is it just because of the 8-inch display, versus the 10-inch one? Oh, and I don't see a frontal picture of your device, so I wanted to ask--is the Windows key placed along the long or short side? Since it's branded in portrait, I wondered if they oriented the Windows key that way as well.

    2. Are you sure this is 32-bit Windows? I saw that they list the Bay Trail as x86-64 architecture, so I thought I'd ask.
    10-28-2013 04:42 PM
  3. mase123987's Avatar
    A couple of questions:

    1. Why the Venue over the T100? Considering the ASUS option comes with the dock and Office (not sure if the Venue comes with the latter), I'm curious as to what this thing offers over the ASUS solution. Is it just because of the 8-inch display, versus the 10-inch one? Oh, and I don't see a frontal picture of your device, so I wanted to ask--is the Windows key placed along the long or short side? Since it's branded in portrait, I wondered if they oriented the Windows key that way as well.

    2. Are you sure this is 32-bit Windows? I saw that they list the Bay Trail as x86-64 architecture, so I thought I'd ask.
    1. It has a lot to do with the 8in compared to 10in. Also, because keyboard isn't included, it starts off at a lower price point. Windows key is at the top right edge (short side). It isn't on the front but on the edge. It also comes with Office.

    2. It is 32-bit. Bay Trail can handle 32 and 64 bit like pretty much all Intel chips for some time now.
    10-28-2013 04:50 PM
  4. TrackSmart's Avatar
    Thanks for your reply! I'm glad to hear that Windows 8.1 handles screen rotation properly - and without drama - though I'm a bit disappointed I can't run out and buy a 64GB model + stylus to try out right now. It would be pretty tempting given the price and the compact form factor.


    Word and Excel are still best with mouse and keyboard. I wouldn't do any large amount of typing without a keyboard.
    I suppose I may have unrealistic expectations for this device. I was hoping that the DV8P + Stylus could serve as a reasonable productivity device on my (public transit) commute and when on-the-go. I hear that Windows 8.1 has built in support for handwriting recognition in the virtual keyboard - and that it works pretty well. Of course, there is obviously a difference between "works pretty well" for jotting down a grocery list versus editing a significant document.
    10-28-2013 04:52 PM
  5. mase123987's Avatar
    Thanks for your reply! I'm glad to hear that Windows 8.1 handles screen rotation properly - and without drama - though I'm a bit disappointed I can't run out and buy a 64GB model + stylus to try out right now. It would be pretty tempting given the price and the compact form factor.

    I suppose I may have unrealistic expectations for this device. I was hoping that the DV8P + Stylus could serve as a reasonable productivity device on my (public transit) commute and when on-the-go. I hear that Windows 8.1 has built in support for handwriting recognition in the virtual keyboard - and that it works pretty well. Of course, there is obviously a difference between "works pretty well" for jotting down a grocery list versus editing a significant document.
    I personally find that I am faster at typing than writing. For this reason alone, a keyboard would be better. That said, when I get the stylus, I hope it works well enough to get my handwriting because it isn't the best!
    Last edited by mase123987; 10-28-2013 at 05:52 PM.
    10-28-2013 04:55 PM
  6. Lurchorama's Avatar
    Any tips on where to order one? Dell Aus is still N/A at the moment :(
    10-28-2013 05:45 PM
  7. Bobert_123's Avatar
    I can't tell you how useful this has been to me! I've been looking into buying a small W8 tablet to replace my dead PlayBook and was considering this. After I read your review, I think I'll wait a little longer.

    Thanks!
    10-28-2013 05:49 PM
  8. mase123987's Avatar
    Any tips on where to order one? Dell Aus is still N/A at the moment :(
    I would check your local Walmart if you have one near by. Dell has done a horrible job at saying where their device will be available. Amazon is shipping Nov. 5 I think...
    10-28-2013 05:50 PM
  9. mase123987's Avatar
    I can't tell you how useful this has been to me! I've been looking into buying a small W8 tablet to replace my dead PlayBook and was considering this. After I read your review, I think I'll wait a little longer.

    Thanks!
    No prob.! Any particular negative for you that you noticed?
    10-28-2013 05:51 PM
  10. TechFreak1's Avatar
    Cheers for the review!, especially the fact that you couldnot snap more than two apps if the resolution was below 1080p.. couldn't find that stated anywhere unless I had missed it lol. In terms of minecraft, does survivalcraft have a windows 8 app? I have the wp8 app, it is essentially minecraft but with various additions (doesn't have an online mode) and is geared for touch. Also I'm curious you mentioned an mSD card slot but Dell's spec doesn't state it has an mSD slot .
    10-28-2013 06:59 PM
  11. mase123987's Avatar
    Cheers for the review!, especially the fact that you couldnot snap more than two apps if the resolution was below 1080p.. couldn't find that stated anywhere unless I had missed it lol. In terms of minecraft, does survivalcraft have a windows 8 app? I have the wp8 app, it is essentially minecraft but with various additions (doesn't have an online mode) and is geared for touch. Also I'm curious you mentioned an mSD card slot but Dell's spec doesn't state it has an mSD slot .
    It def has a micro sd slot. I own survivalcraft on WP, but it isn't on W8. There might be a different Minecraft clone I don't know about.
    10-28-2013 07:19 PM
  12. TechFreak1's Avatar
    It def has a micro sd slot. I own survivalcraft on WP, but it isn't on W8. There might be a different Minecraft clone I don't know about.
    Cheers for the reply re survival craft and mSD slot, I don't suppose you have tried Widi / wireless display yet?

    Going for the whole wireless set up :P and right now in the market for a tablet as my probook 4730s has started showing signs of old age lol.
    10-28-2013 07:39 PM
  13. mase123987's Avatar
    Cheers for the reply re survival craft and mSD slot, I don't suppose you have tried Widi / wireless display yet?

    Going for the whole wireless set up :P and right now in the market for a tablet as my probook 4730s has started showing signs of old age lol.
    I don't even know what the probook 4730 is lol

    It supports Miracast, but I don't have a Miracast receiver that I know of...
    10-28-2013 07:43 PM
  14. savingpvtbryan's Avatar
    Anyone having issues with the brightness of the Venue 8 Pro? When I change it from the charms bar the brightness barely changes between the highest and lowest settings.
    10-28-2013 08:00 PM
  15. mase123987's Avatar
    Anyone having issues with the brightness of the Venue 8 Pro? When I change it from the charms bar the brightness barely changes between the highest and lowest settings.
    Open charm bar and tap Search. Type Control Panel. Change View By to Small Icons. Tap Power Options. Tap Change Plan Settings that is next to the plan labeled Dell. Tap Change Advanced Power Settings. Tap the plus sign next to Display. Tap the plus sign next to Enable Adaptive Brightness. Disable it.
    10-28-2013 08:10 PM
  16. savingpvtbryan's Avatar
    Open charm bar and tap Search. Type Control Panel. Change View By to Small Icons. Tap Power Options. Tap Change Plan Settings that is next to the plan labeled Dell. Tap Change Advanced Power Settings. Tap the plus sign next to Display. Tap the plus sign next to Enable Adaptive Brightness. Disable it.
    Thanks! That fixed it.
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    10-28-2013 08:32 PM
  17. stephen_az's Avatar
    As a point of reference, I recently had to make use of a version of that allegedly "America's best warranty" on another Dell product. Eleven days, a BBB complaint, and withholding of my payment on my Dell account later, I finally had my rapid service. I would not recommend a Dell product to my worst enemy. Please take a close look at real customer satisfaction figures before buying their poorly manufactured, ill supported, products. If a new product line, take an even closer look since Dell's quality control which is weak at the best of times is second to everyone on new products.
    10-28-2013 09:10 PM
  18. Jazmac's Avatar
    Beautiful. This is what I expected from the Venue 8. I was hoping for a lot of what you described in the review. One thing I didn't see is Watcom pen support. Do you have any info on that or is that something for Bing?
    10-28-2013 09:13 PM
  19. mase123987's Avatar
    Beautiful. This is what I expected from the Venue 8. I was hoping for a lot of what you described in the review. One thing I didn't see is Watcom pen support. Do you have any info on that or is that something for Bing?
    Be careful with the name. Venue 8 is an Android tablet. Venue 8 Pro is a Windows tablet.

    They have an active stylus for sale that works with the Venue 8 Pro. I don't know if it uses N-Trig or Wacom though. I don't own it...yet.
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    10-28-2013 09:17 PM
  20. mase123987's Avatar
    As a point of reference, I recently had to make use of a version of that allegedly "America's best warranty" on another Dell product. Eleven days, a BBB complaint, and withholding of my payment on my Dell account later, I finally had my rapid service. I would not recommend a Dell product to my worst enemy. Please take a close look at real customer satisfaction figures before buying their poorly manufactured, ill supported, products. If a new product line, take an even closer look since Dell's quality control which is weak at the best of times is second to everyone on new products.
    I think the same could be said about a lot of the PC makers. Let us hope your situation is just more of an isolated "ball dropped" on Dell's part.
    10-28-2013 09:18 PM
  21. theefman's Avatar
    Poor after sales support is not the sole preserve of Dell. It was a nightmare getting Asus to acknowledge their 11.6' Vivotab and even after that service usually consisted of telling users to hard reset then request the device be sent in. And this was in response to a request for working drivers. I personally owned the much maligned Dell Venue Pro and know what people went through with bugs but I always had good service from just having reasonable expectations and in the end, all was fixed.

    At the end of the day, buy what you feel comfortable with but I doubt any of these companies would still be in business if they were as bad as some try to make them out to be.
    10-28-2013 10:02 PM
  22. Insti Gator's Avatar
    I understand it's installed, but since it's not activated I'm thinking you can use that activation key on another device and remove it from the Venue 8.

    Just saying if I have both a Surface Pro 2 and Venue 8, I'd rather use Office on the Surface.
    Hey - I actually had the exact same idea! I was successfully able to activate the office 2013 bundled with my Ionia w3 on my desktop Win8 machine.

    See thread discussing here : http://forums.windowscentral.com/gen...013-deal.html#
    10-28-2013 10:34 PM
  23. Jazmac's Avatar
    Be careful with the name. Venue 8 is an Android tablet. Venue 8 Pro is a Windows tablet.

    They have an active stylus for sale that works with the Venue 8 Pro. I don't know if it uses N-Trig or Wacom though. I don't own it...yet.
    Noted. I just heard Costco will be moving these next month. I will probably get one there.
    10-28-2013 10:47 PM
  24. mase123987's Avatar
    Noted. I just heard Costco will be moving these next month. I will probably get one there.
    I was originally going to pre-order with Amazon. It seems that pre-orders are becoming less and less reliable these days so I just went with who had physical stock.
    10-28-2013 10:50 PM
  25. Buren06's Avatar
    Be careful with the name. Venue 8 is an Android tablet. Venue 8 Pro is a Windows tablet.

    They have an active stylus for sale that works with the Venue 8 Pro. I don't know if it uses N-Trig or Wacom though. I don't own it...yet.
    Synaptics. The gents over at this forum have been having trouble with it.
    10-28-2013 10:53 PM
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