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  1. Ebag333's Avatar
    If Asus can build a 1.6 GHz Intel ATOM N270 Processor, 1 GB RAM, 160 GB Hard Drive, XP Home with an 8.9 screen for $319 plus shipping retail, then Celio should most certainly be able to build an 8", no OS, no CPU, no RAM, no hard drive dumb terminal for $199 plus shipping, and add a touch screen for $50 more.
    Again, apples to oranges.

    That's like asking why Aston Martin can't build sports cars for the same price as a Mustang.

    There's the simple the fact that one company will sell tens if not hundreds of thousands and the other hundreds or maybe thousands. Asus can simply sell at a lower margin, and since they're building 100x or 1000x more of the ATOM's than Celio is of the Redfly's, there's a gigantic pricing difference (both wholesale and retail).

    Additionally Asus is a larger customer, so gets bigger breaks and can do things like lines of credit or paying cash for large orders (depending on the economy and how the supplier wants it). Asus can also afford to sell long term at a loss in order to build market share...something a small startup simply can't afford to do (especially in this type of economy).


    Finally, most of Celio's equipment is custom built/designed. Asus is using largely off the shelf technology.

    When the Redfly has had as many generations as notebooks have, then maybe we'll see more off the shelf technology that is largely plug and play.



    Obviously we aren't going to agree on this, so I'm going to leave this subject at this post, unless something new comes up. :)
    11-20-2008 06:50 PM
  2. SpriteGF's Avatar
    Chalk me down for "yes." I'd love to be able to have a bigger screen to view documents and ebooks on the go, when I'm on the bus or reading medical articles while walking around the hospital ward.
    11-20-2008 11:01 PM
  3. RC46's Avatar
    But hopefully the Redfly and WM7 will have advanced as well.
    You make a great point. WM7 is supposed to have some advanced tilt and slide features. It would be great if the Redfly Tablet incorporated those advanced features.

    BTW, I would spend $500 for a Tablet / Touchscreen Redfly.

    I love my C8 but I am looking forward to the future potential of Redflys!:D
    Last edited by rc46; 11-21-2008 at 08:43 AM.
    11-21-2008 08:34 AM
  4. c1oudrs's Avatar
    There's times when you just want to tuck away the keyboard because its in the way. Don't get me wrong, I love having the Redfly keyboard. Its just that sometimes when I am reading an ebook, or eating, the keyboard is in peril or in the way. I couldn't handle the redfly being any bigger in sizebut the bezil on the original redfly screen is a little thick. So I'm not looking for a cheap overlay fix. But rather a touchscreen convertible tablet with Redfly technology. Be nice that if you closed the lid on the redfly that the redfly screen turned off too. But the bluetooth is so good tht I realize I'm just being lazy not to use the button to switch off and on. Unfortunately as I said before, a current redfly owner might see the worth in a 550-650 machine but for the most prt most people that are first time buyers would not. Just personal preference, but I don't think I'd use a touchscreen much with the current keyboard setting as the keyboard wouldget in my way.
    11-21-2008 12:14 PM
  5. wodin's Avatar
    There's times when you just want to tuck away the keyboard because its in the way. Don't get me wrong, I love having the Redfly keyboard. Its just that sometimes when I am reading an ebook, or eating, the keyboard is in peril or in the way. I couldn't handle the redfly being any bigger in sizebut the bezil on the original redfly screen is a little thick. So I'm not looking for a cheap overlay fix. But rather a touchscreen convertible tablet with Redfly technology. Be nice that if you closed the lid on the redfly that the redfly screen turned off too. But the bluetooth is so good tht I realize I'm just being lazy not to use the button to switch off and on. Unfortunately as I said before, a current redfly owner might see the worth in a 550-650 machine but for the most prt most people that are first time buyers would not. Just personal preference, but I don't think I'd use a touchscreen much with the current keyboard setting as the keyboard wouldget in my way.
    I think I'd like to have just the touch screen with the VGA out and USB ports, no keyboard! The onscreen keyboards would be enough for me for most things if they scaled up to 'FLY size. Maybe a 10" screen which would fill up the bezel without making the 'FLY any bigger.

    Of course I'd want two, one with a keyboard like my C8, and one without. Video in would be nice on the one without the KB.

    P.S. Now that I think about it, wasn't that the original concept for Oragami UMPC?
    Last edited by wodin; 11-21-2008 at 02:08 PM.
    11-21-2008 01:56 PM
  6. zad225's Avatar
    Where do I sign up? This is exactly what I would be looking for! An instant on tablet pc. If I want to use a full blown keyboard with the fly, I could just twist the screen and use the fly keyboard as a stand and connect a full keyboard to it. Using it a slate would also be very nice. Can't wait!
    02-09-2009 01:17 AM
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