01-30-2009 11:04 AM
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  1. cplush#WP's Avatar
    will the smartphone dock have better support for periphials than the mobile companion? I got a microsoft wireless keyboard/mouse today and the redfly wont recognize it unfortunently, just wondering if it will work on the dock.
    01-26-2009 04:25 PM
  2. cplush#WP's Avatar
    let me rephrase that as i have found the problem, will the dock be able to handle a USB hub that has a mouse and a keyboard attached to it? the redfly will only accept the keyboard from teh wireless hub not both the keyboard and the mouse
    01-26-2009 04:48 PM
  3. ckj's Avatar
    Both products have similar USB controllers. At this time, neither work well with most USB hubs. I believe it's not just a USB controller issue, I don't think WM supports USB hubs well either. Bottom line, I wouldn't plan on great support for hubs in the near future.
    01-26-2009 06:53 PM
  4. cplush#WP's Avatar
    any idea yet on availibility for the dock?
    01-26-2009 07:30 PM
  5. ckj's Avatar
    Not yet. If we do customer beta are you interested?
    01-26-2009 08:07 PM
  6. starky's Avatar
    count me in for beta ;-)
    01-26-2009 08:12 PM
  7. cplush#WP's Avatar
    i am very interested if you do a customer beta. id love to
    01-26-2009 08:33 PM
  8. mknollman's Avatar
    I too would love to test out the dock idea. Let me know when the beta starts.
    01-27-2009 09:17 AM
  9. reckless's Avatar
    I travel for a living and am constantly in different clients offices. I think I'd be a great beta tester and also would add a fair amount of visibility for you in the field.
    01-27-2009 11:09 AM
  10. BengtBeier's Avatar
    Well, considering I do already think about purchasing one anyway I'd definitely be interested in a beta. It depends on the timeframe, though as I have the necessary equipment (screen and keyboard) at my home in Germany so would need to be there to test it.
    I've been contemplating about using one or two redfly docks to realize a media-center like integration of the phone into my entertainment system, though and would love to test that concept (will hopefully bring you more details of that project soon).
    01-27-2009 04:09 PM
  11. cplush#WP's Avatar
    Im wondering if the dock will have a media port like the C8N? it would be cool and handy i think
    01-27-2009 08:39 PM
  12. BengtBeier's Avatar
    One problem I currently see with the dock is that it only has 3 usb-ports (at least the one that was shown at CES). If you are talking about using it at a desktop, you will need one port for the phone, one for the keyboard and one for the mouse (because windows mobile can't deal with keyboard and mouse on one usb). That leaves you with no free usb-port for anything else (you'd always need to disconnect the keyboard to copy a file from a usb drive).

    I believe the dock absolutely needs at least four or maybe five usb ports to make sure you have at least one or two free for other uses like drives. One of them could possibly be a media port (if it doesn't make the thing too expensive).
    01-28-2009 03:03 AM
  13. cplush#WP's Avatar
    do bear in mind it will also have bluetooth, but yes if u want to charge and work on a USB thumb drive you are in a pickle. I wonder if there is a way to enable one usb port to acccept dual input and have the phone recognize it as 2 usb ports...
    01-28-2009 06:36 AM
  14. starky's Avatar
    maybe bluetooth to dock
    01-28-2009 07:36 AM
  15. cplush#WP's Avatar
    yeah thats what i meant to say, you dock via bluetooth and then have 2 usbs for mice/keyboard and 1 open usb is the concept i believe.
    01-28-2009 08:00 AM
  16. starky's Avatar
    i meant it should be made so bluetooth can dock connect rather than usb
    01-28-2009 10:42 AM
  17. cplush#WP's Avatar
    it can already.
    01-28-2009 10:48 AM
  18. starky's Avatar
    we meant an external keyboard to future dock
    01-28-2009 10:56 AM
  19. cplush#WP's Avatar
    yeah.....i got confused...yeah that would be nice.
    01-28-2009 11:58 AM
  20. BengtBeier's Avatar
    I have to admit I can't follow you starky.

    Though, cplush is right. If the dock supported bluetooth that would somewhat alleviate the problem - though I still believe 3 usb ports is a bit tight anyway. I mean the whole idea about using bluetooth to connect the redfly was that you could use it on the fly and leave your phone in your pocket. When sitting down at a desktop you'd possibly rather want to use the usb connection simply because that's a bit more stable and will also charge your phone.
    So... I believe at least a fourth usb is an absolute must.
    01-28-2009 12:11 PM
  21. cplush#WP's Avatar
    the dock WILL have bluetooth, but i agree with bengneier that a fourth usb would be very handy. cant wait for them to come out...the redfly is just a little to small to use on my desk, the dock will be very handy
    01-28-2009 12:32 PM
  22. starky's Avatar
    current redfly has a keyboard and screen which you connect to phone via bluetooth or usb; the recent announced dock concept doesnt have a keyboard so all i was saying is that a keyboard can be usb connected or celio could consider connecting a bluetooth keyboard if the dock allowed this and was able to discover that keyboard device ;-)
    hope this helps to clarify
    01-28-2009 12:54 PM
  23. starky's Avatar
    yes the phone can be BT connected but i havnt seem mention that a seperate BT keyboard can be BT connected to the RF.
    01-28-2009 12:58 PM
  24. cplush#WP's Avatar
    ok...i guess i didnt get that. yes it would be great if they made a BT keyboard & mouse that would work with it...
    01-28-2009 01:09 PM
  25. starky's Avatar
    it wouldnt be to their benefit to make a BT keyboard as there are already those available. capability in the dock is a different aspect.
    01-28-2009 01:30 PM
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