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  1. jdevenberg's Avatar
    I use my phone to tether my tablets. Much cheaper to add $20 to my phone data than to have a completely separate data plan on a tablet. I never come close to the 5gb limit anyway.

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    This. Or purchase a MiFi device to use on a pre-paid plan. T-Mobile has great speeds and great prices for their pre-paid. Plus I like not having to choose which carrier my tab will work with.

    Did they mention if any of the models will have 3/4G?

    Also did I imagine it, or did they say "Gorrila Glas 2.0" have any other devices actually been announced with the new extra strong glass?
    Yes, they did say Gorilla Glass 2.0. And no, I haven't heard of any other product with it.
    06-19-2012 11:13 AM
  2. naplesbill's Avatar
    I thought I read the Galaxy S III will have Gorilla glass 2.0. I could be wrong though.

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    06-19-2012 11:25 AM
  3. BooMaLiCiOuS's Avatar
    Can some of you give me your opinions in to why you would purchase this over an ultrabook? Assume the price on the Pro is the same and both with Win8.

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    06-19-2012 11:35 AM
  4. vp710's Avatar
    Why? Because you won't need both a tablet and an ultrabook? Or because your ultrabook will have a touch screen? Or because this device is absolutely gorgeous?

    Sent from my Lumia 710 using Board Express
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    06-19-2012 11:41 AM
  5. sinime's Avatar
    This article makes me wonder what the writer is thinking and how much of a fanboy he is? His reason that the surface (Win8) can't replace a notebook is because you can't use the keyboard in your lap. Really? I rarely have used any notebooks on my lap because of heat and comfort and when I do it is to do something real quick, in which case you wouldn't need the keyboard on a surface.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthi...e-your-laptop/
    06-19-2012 11:42 AM
  6. naplesbill's Avatar
    I would choose it over an ultrabook simply because of its ability to morph from a tablet to a laptop and back to a tablet. It does this without a bulky dock to carry around.

    Sent from my Lumia 900 using Board Express
    06-19-2012 11:43 AM
  7. blehblehbleh's Avatar
    This article makes me wonder what the writer is thinking and how much of a fanboy he is? His reason that the surface (Win8) can't replace a notebook is because you can't use the keyboard in your lap. Really? I rarely have used any notebooks on my lap because of heat and comfort and when I do it is to do something real quick, in which case you wouldn't need the keyboard on a surface.

    Microsoft Surface Won't Replace Your Laptop - Forbes
    I think he makes a valid point. It's something I thought about after reading a Gizmodo post about the Touch Cover. Assuming you're some press journalist you might not have a flat table to park your Surface. At that point you'd have to put it on your lap to which it might fall over if you move wrong. Though one could probably rectify that by placing a smooth surface on your lap, but I don't people are going to be carrying something like that around with them. That leaves typing with your legs crossed, and that still might be tough.

    So to a degree yeah Surface isn't really replacing an ultrabook. It's close though
    06-19-2012 09:29 PM
  8. jdevenberg's Avatar
    Because this is more portable than an ultra book. I love small screens. I had an 11" laptop in '07 before all the cool kids started doing it. It is a tablet, which I prefer to a laptop. But it has a keyboard for when I need to type a long email, blog post, Craigslist ad, etc. in short 80% of the time I want a tablet and only want a notebook 20% of the time, so I'd rather buy a product that is a tablet first and an ultra book second.
    06-19-2012 10:10 PM
  9. ModeratorOMD's Avatar
    I'm actually curious as to how that keyboard actually feels. At first glance I thought, that has to be a gimmick, it has the form, but how can it function?

    I need to feel that keyboard, I hope it isn't soft at all. Microsoft did a wonderful job and displaying it in their commercial. They showed liquid metal dropping onto it, which makes me even more curious.
    06-19-2012 10:59 PM
  10. cckgz4's Avatar
    I mean this thing is like MAJOR. I'm still thinking about it. The first modern tablet with a Desktop OS on it (referring to RT). If it's priced decent, do you know what that means? Let me run down the scenario

    Apple: Let's say I never bought an iPad but wanted a tablet. Something that does more than just run the same apps on a bigger screen. What if I'm at work and I have free time to jail break my phone but don't want to lug around my laptop? BOOM, this'll work

    Blackberry: Never really cared for the Playbook and biding my time until more apps become available. Don't want a Kindle or Nook tablet and not interested in Android. Windows RT has USB ports, which means I can sideload media until my phone. I have a WORKING desktop OS on the go

    Android: I want to reflash my phone but I'm not at home with my computer. THIS. WORKS.

    So yes, I see A LOT of fear from the people who have committed their lives to a vendor for whatever reason. This appeals to EVERY OS user out there. You can load iTunes and Zune on this, side load files to your device, AND not have to be inconvenienced by carrying a huge device. I see a lot of things in my house that can be replaced by this
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    06-19-2012 11:55 PM
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    06-20-2012 01:01 AM
  12. Reflexx's Avatar
    I have noticed an extreme amount of hate/fear from comments around the net. It's pretty funny.

    I'm happy when I see a good Apple or Android product. It means that the ball is being advanced, and everyone will try to step up. That's good for everyone.

    What I think is most hilarious is that I do remember seeing a lot of Apple fanboys talk about how MS has no creativity and vision. They went on and on about how MS really should learn from Apple.

    So now, we see that MS has learned from Apple. The whole presentation actually felt very much like a Steve Jobs presentation. The way the speakers described the product was soooo Apple.

    And now Apple fanboys are crying, "Copy cat!"

    Geez.
    06-20-2012 02:52 AM
  13. johnsonbrown220's Avatar
    To give more information about the company’s upcoming “Tango” Windows Phone operating system Microsoft has updated its website. The small update will hit the build number up to 7.10.8773.98 and will update the messaging app, allowing users to attach multiple files to a single message. You can even import the contacts from the SIM card with the help of Tango. The new version of the Windows Phone operating system is already shipping on the European version of the Nokia Lumia 900. But till now it is unclear when it will be made available to other Windows Phone handsets and carrier-branded devices.:lol::dry
    06-20-2012 05:40 AM
  14. ALborntoride's Avatar
    Well all i can say is come on September/October...wait if i want a Pro i have to wait 90 more days so Christmas time??? Sux!!!
    06-20-2012 07:47 AM
  15. ModeratorOMD's Avatar
    I'd still have to take a look at it before I bought it. I'm not going to be one of the first to jump in.

    The keynote actually did not talk about the software, Windows 8 as much. If the case is that you can download any Windows 7 application onto this device, then it won't fail because of not having enough apps like other tablets do.

    Which is a good thing!!!
    06-20-2012 03:15 PM
  16. Mitlov's Avatar
    I'd still have to take a look at it before I bought it. I'm not going to be one of the first to jump in.

    The keynote actually did not talk about the software, Windows 8 as much. If the case is that you can download any Windows 7 application onto this device, then it won't fail because of not having enough apps like other tablets do.

    Which is a good thing!!!
    The Surface Pro will be able to run any Windows 7 application, because it has an x86 processor and Windows 8 Professional. You may need to use a USB stick or an external optical drive to install the application, but if it ran on Windows 7, it WILL run on the Surface Pro.

    With the Surface RT, you need to run apps specifically designed for WIndows RT, the ARM version of Windows. So you won't be able to use legacy Windows 7 software.
    06-20-2012 05:09 PM
  17. AzD's Avatar
    I'd still have to take a look at it before I bought it. I'm not going to be one of the first to jump in.

    The keynote actually did not talk about the software, Windows 8 as much. If the case is that you can download any Windows 7 application onto this device, then it won't fail because of not having enough apps like other tablets do.

    Which is a good thing!!!
    They didn't have to talk about the software, because it is already in the hands of many people, and has been talked about for months. It is already known that the pro version will run Win 7 software.

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    06-20-2012 07:21 PM
  18. mase123987's Avatar
    Microsoft outsource Surface tablets to Pegatron; expected prices above US$599

    I hope this site isn't right when it says the ARM version will be at least $599. That might cause it to be a total flop, esp. since we don't know what all will be included with the tablets and what will be sold as accessories.
    06-21-2012 09:22 AM
  19. Mitlov's Avatar
    Microsoft outsource Surface tablets to Pegatron; expected prices above US$599

    I hope this site isn't right when it says the ARM version will be at least $599. That might cause it to be a total flop, esp. since we don't know what all will be included with the tablets and what will be sold as accessories.
    A 32 gb iPad sells for $599. Why would a 32 gb Surface RT, which has a lower-res screen but also has Microsoft Office Home & Student included for free (a $120 value), not sell for around $599?

    People are expecting Kindle Fire pricing for the Surface just because it's not Apple. That's absurd. I own a Kindle Fire. The case is plastic, not magnesium (albeit sturdy plastic). The screen is half the size and of mediocre quality, the guts are slow as molasses, the touchscreen drivers have all the love and care of a Soviet automobile, it has no webcams, it has no hardware buttons (home, volume, etc), and it's generally total junk as anything besides an e-reader and a Netflix viewer. It costs $199 because it's a $199 device. The Surface is NOT a $199 device.
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    06-21-2012 02:36 PM
  20. ModeratorOMD's Avatar
    The surface will be expensive, 599-799 I would think.

    Hopefully I could get a Christmas sale. But I don't know, this new device is questionable. You have to be apprehensive.
    06-21-2012 02:45 PM
  21. justop26's Avatar
    The surface will be expensive, 599-799 I would think.

    Hopefully I could get a Christmas sale. But I don't know, this new device is questionable. You have to be apprehensive.
    It's the same as a comparable iPad, as stated above, so I wouldn't say it's expensive. I believe at that price it would be going for what it's worth.

    And please stop it, it's a REAL device, not one of 'questionable' existence. C'mmon.
    06-21-2012 05:16 PM
  22. Joelist's Avatar
    The reason to make it less expensive is to "buy" market share. Obviously $199 is too cheap but, for example, $399 or even $499 would work properly. Remember MS specifically said they are pricing the RT tablets in line with other ARM tablets. Well the baseline for ARM tablets is between $399 and $499 so expect pricing in that line.
    06-21-2012 10:26 PM
  23. Joelist's Avatar
    Also, let's remember that Digitimes is not exactly the most reputable source for tech news...
    06-21-2012 10:31 PM
  24. cj-m's Avatar
    It will be interesting to see if Nokia comes up with an alternative.

    I just hope that MS keeps filling the Surface Pro with more goodies and keeps the end result competitive because my next years bonus is definitely going to be spent on one.

    MS got the right idea here...they have not gone the route of "ipad killer" but instead have looked at a game changer. This is what is needed.
    06-22-2012 09:48 AM
  25. AzD's Avatar
    Re: pricing concerns, I think Microsoft needs to be aggressive here. While an argument can be made for similar pricing to an ipad on a feature by feature basis, Microsoft is playing catch up and really could grab serious market share with aggressive pricing. Otherwise it's Zune HD all over again.

    Also Google is going to have its own tablets on the market soon, and they are going aggressive on the pricing from the looks of it. Someone mentioned on another thread that Google will own the low cost tablet market like that is a bad thing. I think at this point, as the mobile market is maturing, it's about getting people into an ecosystem. A $600 entry point for your tablets isn't going to cut it. Especially if you are playing catch up.

    Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab 2
    06-24-2012 11:04 AM
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