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  1. vp710's Avatar
    This guy has no clue. Or he's just a hater. :dry :mad:

    Five ways to skip Windows 8
    07-29-2012 01:58 PM
  2. palandri's Avatar
    LOL! How could he say it's worse than ME Millennium Edition :D
    07-29-2012 02:14 PM
  3. kylej1050's Avatar
    Reading the comments on some of these editorials is the most frustrating part. And you can't say anything because if you do you're flamed as a fanboy and get crapped on.

    You have one guy say "The Metro UI isn't that bad"
    Then a reply "Why would you want a tablet OS on a desktop?"

    Then someone else says "The multitasking on the Surface will be awesome"
    Then a reply "Why would you want a desktop OS on a tablet?"

    People are stupid. And it seems to me that a lot of people don't realize that a normal Windows desktop still exists in Windows 8 but proceed to talk major crap about it.

    They just don't like that Windows desktop will tie into Windows tablets and phones better than their OSX does iOS.

    Now, to get Microsoft to stop *****ing about games saving data to Skydrive so my Survivalcraft game on the phone can be automatically updated on my Surface when I go to play on that!
    07-30-2012 01:37 PM
  4. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    Although I love my Windows Phone and am interested in a Surface tablet, I agree that Windows 8 is clunky on a desktop. I'm not a fangirl of all things Microsoft.

    I'll run Windows 7/Linux on my desktop and laptops.
    07-30-2012 01:44 PM
  5. fatclue_98's Avatar
    The author makes it sound like consumers will have a choice. Windows 8 is the next Windows Operating System. End of story.
    07-30-2012 02:48 PM
  6. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    The author makes it sound like consumers will have a choice. Windows 8 is the next Windows Operating System. End of story.
    The author is correct in that consumers do not have to choose the next Windows OS. Nothing forces consumers to choose Windows.
    07-30-2012 02:50 PM
  7. kylej1050's Avatar
    Although I love my Windows Phone and am interested in a Surface tablet, I agree that Windows 8 is clunky on a desktop. I'm not a fangirl of all things Microsoft.

    I'll run Windows 7/Linux on my desktop and laptops.
    See, I sold my desktop a year ago because I never use it. I've gotten to a point that I want and need only two devices. A portable machine with some power and a phone with some function. Currently the Arrive treats me well but my convertible laptop lacks touch input and using a tablet with a pen all the time sucks(love the laptop, don't get me wrong the Core 2 Duo will still rip a dvd in under 30 mins). The Surface Pro lets me keep my pen, keyboard, and touch input all in one machine with no need to sync 3 computers(desktop, laptop, tablet). Code Composer Studio is $500 for a single computer license so I can't just go install it on multiple machines.

    I used to be REALLY into computers(building, repairing, gaming, tweaking, overclocking, ect) but now all I want is something that works. WPx and W8 look to be my solution... If they pull it off well.

    Imagine, you play a bit of Survivalcraft(or Final Fantasy, Spliter Cell whatever floats your boat) on your tablet in front of the TV, go to bed, then on lunch break you whip out your phone and continue where you left off on the tablet at home because it synced the savegame via Skydrive.

    Ahhhhh, one can dream.
    07-30-2012 02:53 PM
  8. sinime's Avatar
    I'm not completely sold on Win 8. I had the preview release on my notebook, but was having issues with the WP7 emulator and a couple of other things and went back to 7 for now. I definitely will love it on a tablet, but trying to use it as a desktop without a touchscreen felt awkward. Is there an easy way to get to the classic start screen for non-metro apps?
    07-30-2012 02:58 PM
  9. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    I'm not completely sold on Win 8. I had the preview release on my notebook, but was having issues with the WP7 emulator and a couple of other things and went back to 7 for now. I definitely will love it on a tablet, but trying to use it as a desktop without a touchscreen felt awkward. Is there an easy way to get to the classic start screen for non-metro apps?
    How to Get the Classic Start Menu Back in Windows 8 - How-To Geek
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    07-30-2012 03:09 PM
  10. vp710's Avatar
    I've had no problems using the interface on a desktop. I don't understand how it can be "difficult" to use? The preview was buggy, but that was a... "preview".

    Of course, on a tablet hybrid like the Surface is where the OS will shine.
    07-30-2012 03:46 PM
  11. thed's Avatar
    When I saw this thread's title I thought the OP might be overreacting by using the word "trolling", but it turns out that's an accurate description. Now, I'm not a big fan of W8 and I don't think I'll be installing it on my PCs. But worse than Windows ME? Come on.

    And he really expects me to believe that Windows developers are developing in a VM? There's no way that would be anything but painful. Either he doesn't understand the difference between dual boot and a VM, or he's making up crap.
    07-30-2012 05:04 PM
  12. thed's Avatar
    I haven't tested it myself, but I've read that this doesn't work in the new Release Preview and presumably will not work in the final release either. It just seems like stubborn behavior to me. Pretty unfortunate.
    07-30-2012 05:13 PM
  13. jdevenberg's Avatar
    Although I love my Windows Phone and am interested in a Surface tablet, I agree that Windows 8 is clunky on a desktop. I'm not a fangirl of all things Microsoft.

    I'll run Windows 7/Linux on my desktop and laptops.
    I disagree. My wife and I both quite like windows 8 on her desktop. iTunes er got used when it had windows 7 and now we use it daily with windows 8 preview.
    07-30-2012 05:33 PM
  14. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    When I saw this thread's title I thought the OP might be overreacting by using the word "trolling", but it turns out that's an accurate description. Now, I'm not a big fan of W8 and I don't think I'll be installing it on my PCs. But worse than Windows ME? Come on.

    And he really expects me to believe that Windows developers are developing in a VM? There's no way that would be anything but painful. Either he doesn't understand the difference between dual boot and a VM, or he's making up crap.
    I do not buy "worse than ME", nor do I buy "developing in a VM".

    However, my prediction is that Win8 will be a dud, along the lines of Vista. Microsoft will probably fix the issues in Win8 when it releases Win9.

    Microsoft tends to release a great version of Windows, followed by a mediocre version, and then followed by another great version.

    I also do not see adoption of Win8 by enterprises, just like enterprises did not adopt Vista.
    07-30-2012 05:34 PM
  15. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    I haven't tested it myself, but I've read that this doesn't work in the new Release Preview and presumably will not work in the final release either. It just seems like stubborn behavior to me. Pretty unfortunate.
    I do not know either. The last version I've tried was Consumer Preview. I have not tried Release Preview.
    07-30-2012 05:37 PM
  16. Kadcidxa's Avatar
    Everywhere is spreading lies about Windows 8.

    SJVN is back again with another "Reasons to skip Windows". He was so wrong about Windows 7 back in 2009.

    Five ways to skip Windows 8 | ZDNet
    Seven reasons to skip upgrading to Windows 7 | Computerworld Blogs
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    07-30-2012 06:31 PM
  17. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    Everywhere is spreading lies about Windows 8.

    SJVN is back again with another "Reasons to skip Windows". He was so wrong about Windows 7 back in 2009.

    Five ways to skip Windows 8 | ZDNet
    Seven reasons to skip upgrading to Windows 7 | Computerworld Blogs
    In a way, he was right about Windows 7 back in 2009, not so much for consumers, but for enterprise.

    Many enterprises are just rolling out Windows 7 now, due to the issues he mentioned. Those same enterprises skipped Vista completely, and are finally switching from XP to 7.
    07-30-2012 07:18 PM
  18. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    LOL! How could he say it's worse than ME Millennium Edition :D
    I still don't know which was worse: ME or Bob.
    07-30-2012 07:21 PM
  19. Reflexx's Avatar
    The new MS mice will make W8 significantly easier on the desktop.
    07-31-2012 12:02 AM
  20. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    The new MS mice will make W8 significantly easier on the desktop.
    I would never pay $70 for a mouse. Microsoft Unveils New Mice, Keyboards for Windows 8 | News & Opinion | PCMag.com
    07-31-2012 12:08 AM
  21. Kredrian's Avatar
    It depends on the person, I have bought mice as high as 100$+ and thought they were worth it. I have the current touch mouse and it is excellent.
    07-31-2012 03:54 AM
  22. AngryNil's Avatar
    Everyone knows SJVN is a bozo. Shame on ZDNet for keeping him on their staff.
    07-31-2012 04:15 AM
  23. eric12341's Avatar
    There's always some mierda said about W8 on that site. Every single day, I always see it in my emails. Only people on ZDNet who aren't anti-MS are Mary Jo Foley and some other guy.
    07-31-2012 01:55 PM
  24. jmshub's Avatar
    I just installed Win8 RTM on my laptop. Thus far, I am completely loving it. Win7 was the best version of Windows ever, I'd say. I don't feel like I downgraded at all to Win8. I like it every bit as much at Win7 so far.
    08-15-2012 09:21 PM
  25. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    There's always some mierda said about W8 on that site. Every single day, I always see it in my emails. Only people on ZDNet who aren't anti-MS are Mary Jo Foley and some other guy.
    Ed Bott is very much pro-Microsoft.
    08-15-2012 11:41 PM
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