11-18-2013 09:38 PM
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  1. LMZR's Avatar
    Hey guys, i am going to get a Windows 8 tablet on top of hopefully getting a Lumia 1020, i have a few questions though.

    How much storage will the W3-810 actually have after installing everything, it comes with 32GB.

    Does anybody else have any other recommendations for a Windows 8 tablet?

    Which one would be better overall for me to get?

    These are the are the links for both deals.
    Iconia W3 8" Tablet with Microsoft Office + Carry Case + Protective Film + Additional Warranty
    and this: ASUS VivoTab Smart ME400C Tablet - Tablets - Asus Laptops and Tablets | Harvey Norman Australia
    09-10-2013 05:06 AM
  2. TeknoBlast's Avatar
    I own the 32GB Acer W3 810 and it's best to get the 64GB model. After you do all the updates for Windows and then install Office, you're left with less than 10GB. If you can live with that, then go for the 32GB. Since it has an SD slot, you can always use a card as a holding tank. However, I do suggest the 64GB model.
    09-10-2013 08:36 AM
  3. Insti Gator's Avatar
    I also own a 32GB iconia w3 and here is my opinion of each:
    - They both have the same hardware and specs so they will run exactly the same in windows 8 and with programs as well as have identical battery life.
    - What you need to decide is what size do you need?
    If you want one for media consumption - Watching Netflix, Hulu, YouTube, checking email, streaming radio/music, surfing the web, reading digital books or magazines and playing with metro apps then get the Acer Iconia w3. The 8 inch form factor is perfect for all these things.

    If you want one for work/laptop usability - Word processing, heavy email, for your job work, utilizing multiple windows in desktop mode then get the Asus Vivotab smart. The 10 inch screen is more conducive to working yet still provides a tablet atmosphere and function. I believe the vivotab also comes with a keyboard , I can't remember if it extends battery life.. I don't think it does unfortunately.

    The only other thing to say is that the Iconia w3 should cost half of what the vivotab costs, at least here in America you can purchase an iconia for $249, but a vivotab smart is closer to $500. That alone to me was worth it for the Iconia w3, as well as many small tablets are shipping with office home and student 2013.

    If you already have a good laptop I say get the Iconia w3 it will fill the media consumption void in your lineup.

    If you don't have a laptop or tablet already definitely get the Vivotab, it will become a valuable tool and may replace your desktop becoming an extremely valuable mobile device!
    09-10-2013 10:51 AM
  4. LMZR's Avatar
    For some reason, the 64GB W3 isn't available at the acerstore. I was going to use it for some gaming, YouTube and web browsing.
    09-10-2013 04:17 PM
  5. WinFan1's Avatar
    I'm actually planning on getting the Acer as well. But I have to do serious research since I hear alot of bad things about it.
    09-10-2013 04:18 PM
  6. Insti Gator's Avatar
    For some reason, the 64GB W3 isn't available at the acerstore. I was going to use it for some gaming, YouTube and web browsing.
    Yea 64GB would be better but I can make 32GB work just fine. Many have reported with windows 8.1 preview that their hard drive has opened 14GB free when it was previously less than 10. So once windows 8.1 launches officially you'll have some extra space.

    As far as gaming - Don't expect too much from either tablet, they are sufficient for anything you'll find in the metro store so you're good there, but as far as some of the big PC games you won't have much success. The integrated graphics on clovertrail are pretty poor.

    I'm actually planning on getting the Acer as well. But I have to do serious research since I hear alot of bad things about it.
    I would suggest trying one in person at your local computer store - The only legitimate complaint is the screen's viewing angle however I have found it to be totally acceptable given the price. I don't mind the screen at all - Especially as a single user consumption tablet.

    Also see my above comment - Windows 8.1 preview should free up 14GB of free space which is equivalent of your average iPad or other 7/8 inch tablet!

    All things considered I love the W3 - You cannot get a full windows 8 computer for any less than this tablet and it's such a joy with touch friendly WIN8 on board. I bought a Bluetooth keyboard and stand, then I can set this guy up and perform full computer work especially if I push HDMI out to a TV or monitor!
    09-10-2013 08:05 PM
  7. fatclue_98's Avatar
    I have the 64GB W3 and I couldn't ask for more. It is widely known that the screen is not the best - compared to today's devices. I remember when my Palm Treo phones with 320x320 screens were the bomb. WinMo phones had either 240x240 or 320x240. Just a little perspective there.

    There is nothing I can't throw at it. I bought a wireless (not bluetooth) mini-keyboard at Office Depot for $30 and it even has a trackpad. Peripherals install without any issue and right now I have a complete mobile office in my bag (Canon BJ-80 printer & Brother portable scanner).

    As Insti Gator said, you simply cannot get a full Windows 8 computer for less.
    09-10-2013 08:47 PM
  8. Scienceguy Labs's Avatar
    Agree with Insti Gator and fatclue_98 completely. Great device for the price, especially for the fact that it's a full Windows 8 PC.
    LMZR likes this.
    09-10-2013 08:55 PM
  9. LMZR's Avatar
    If I can find the W3 64GB somewhere I will get it.
    09-11-2013 06:17 AM
  10. Brendan Dooley's Avatar
    I would wait - Bay Trail tablets with 2-3x the performance of current atoms will be here in less than a month. Dell already has some great looking offerings coming up in the Venue line.
    09-11-2013 06:33 PM
  11. Scienceguy Labs's Avatar
    But if price is an issue....
    The current W3 is a pretty good option. I'd be willing to bet that the new pc/tablets on the horizon are going to be double the price at least of the W3.
    09-11-2013 07:34 PM
  12. fatclue_98's Avatar
    I would wait - Bay Trail tablets with 2-3x the performance of current atoms will be here in less than a month. Dell already has some great looking offerings coming up in the Venue line.
    Newer isn't always necessarily better. I'll take my chances with Clover Trail, at least it's been out for some time and performs very well. Battery life is sick for an x86 device (real, not advertised).
    09-11-2013 07:46 PM
  13. Insti Gator's Avatar
    I would wait - Bay Trail tablets with 2-3x the performance of current atoms will be here in less than a month. Dell already has some great looking offerings coming up in the Venue line.
    My point of view was actually the opposite - I went with the Iconia w3 because the new line of tabs are going to be much more expensive probably 2x or more and I wanted to get this tablet while it's so stinking cheap!

    Also I don't believe the new chips will actually be 2X as powerful - Call it marketing hype, but let's see those benchmarks and just see if we get 2-3x the performance.

    All things considered I predict that we won't see a full Win8 tab for anywhere near $249 (Iconia w3) again after they are gone.
    09-11-2013 10:44 PM
  14. Brendan Dooley's Avatar
    Well...

    Here are your benchmarks - AnandTech | The Bay Trail Preview: Intel Atom Z3770 Tested

    And here's your pricing - http://winsupersite.com/windows-8/fa...tablet-preview
    (Including a $249 Bay Trail tablet, among other promising price points.)

    There isn't much speculation involved at this point.
    09-12-2013 09:32 AM
  15. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Well...

    Here are your benchmarks - AnandTech | The Bay Trail Preview: Intel Atom Z3770 Tested

    And here's your pricing - http://winsupersite.com/windows-8/fa...tablet-preview
    (Including a $249 Bay Trail tablet, among other promising price points.)

    There isn't much speculation involved at this point.
    Yep, you're right. No speculation except the author's very first sentence:

    Note: Everything here is subject to change. Specs, prices, and whatever else could evolve as these devices hit the market. Some devices may even be delayed past the holiday period.
    09-12-2013 12:20 PM
  16. Brendan Dooley's Avatar
    Yep, you're right. No speculation except the author's very first sentence:

    Note: Everything here is subject to change. Specs, prices, and whatever else could evolve as these devices hit the market. Some devices may even be delayed past the holiday period.
    Asus announced the pricing and cpu specs for the T100 themselves at the Intel event. I don't see them changing that. As for benchmarks, there's no reason to expect Intel to suddenly cut performance for Bay Trail SOCs after already releasing them to the press for testing.

    Many of the models on Thurrott's page are definitely on the more speculative side - but we at least have concrete evidence that Bay Trail will be an improvement over Clover Trail, and will be priced in line with the current low end of Atom devices (Acer W3) and below, if Intel is to be believed.
    09-12-2013 02:00 PM
  17. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Asus announced the pricing and cpu specs for the T100 themselves at the Intel event. I don't see them changing that. As for benchmarks, there's no reason to expect Intel to suddenly cut performance for Bay Trail SOCs after already releasing them to the press for testing.

    Many of the models on Thurrott's page are definitely on the more speculative side - but we at least have concrete evidence that Bay Trail will be an improvement over Clover Trail, and will be priced in line with the current low end of Atom devices (Acer W3) and below, if Intel is to be believed.
    I don't doubt the tech specs on paper. I've learned over the years that it's expensive to be a developmental engineer for the manufacturers. First year glitches aren't limited to autos.
    09-12-2013 02:13 PM
  18. Insti Gator's Avatar
    Awesome! I can't wait to give the new devices a try!

    I noticed there are a few iterations of Bay Trail, hopefully tablets stick with the good one's.

    When the new devices are out we will get official proper tests - The truth will be revealed. In the mean time I am still working off an in-hand operational 8" tab lol.
    09-12-2013 03:20 PM
  19. Scienceguy Labs's Avatar
    Just wanted to let the other person on the planet that owns the W3 that Staples is selling the Acer Iconia W3 official keyboard/case for $24.99. Picked mine up today. Also, they had the HDMI to VGA connector for $6.99. Didn't need that, but just wanted to pass along the info.
    11-16-2013 11:01 PM
  20. Insti Gator's Avatar
    Just wanted to let the other person on the planet that owns the W3 that Staples is selling the Acer Iconia W3 official keyboard/case for $24.99. Picked mine up today. Also, they had the HDMI to VGA connector for $6.99. Didn't need that, but just wanted to pass along the info.
    Really?! The one that the tablet can clip into?

    If som awesome I'm going to get one! They are sweet!

    By the way for what it's worth to others I checked out performance on the Asus T100 at Best Buy last weekend and I know graphics performance is better but it only got the atom Z3740 and performance seemed identical to the W3, I know benchmarks favor bay trail but for the normal consumption user I don't think the difference is as stout as Intel promised.
    11-17-2013 02:21 PM
  21. Scienceguy Labs's Avatar
    That's the one. I was shocked. :)
    11-17-2013 04:07 PM
  22. Insti Gator's Avatar
    That's the one. I was shocked. :)
    You're right I just found it at office depot! I really wanted to buy one when I first got it but they were just too expensive, $25 is perfect!
    11-17-2013 08:36 PM
  23. Scienceguy Labs's Avatar
    Glad you found one for that price? :)
    11-17-2013 09:18 PM
  24. Insti Gator's Avatar
    Thanks for the tip-off!

    How are you enjoying the W3? The new 8.1 update is amazing, I can't believe all these features were missing from original W8. Especially the snap apps coming to small screens. And now I have an extra 6GB worth of drive space.
    11-17-2013 10:17 PM
  25. Scienceguy Labs's Avatar
    Thanks for the tip-off!

    How are you enjoying the W3? The new 8.1 update is amazing, I can't believe all these features were missing from original W8. Especially the snap apps coming to small screens. And now I have an extra 6GB worth of drive space.
    It's pretty amazing just how much changed from 8 to 8.1. I had to recently reinstall Windows 8 on my PC, and was quickly reminded how many little issues were tucked away in it. I loved 8 when it came out, but 8.1 is far better in a few big ways and a ton more subtle ways. I think I got almost 2 gigs back after the update...really impressed that you got 6. Overall, I'm really digging 8.1. Microsoft seemed to listen to criticisms, and took a huge step in a good direction. :)
    Oh...and I'm still loving my W3! So much so, that I ended up selling my Surface in order to help raise the money I needed to preorder the Lumia 1520. :)
    11-18-2013 05:01 AM
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