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  1. Flagz's Avatar
    It's set to pull.

    CPU is 10c idling. Not sure underload (no benchmark software)
    GPU is 28c idling? Not sure.

    Did some reorganizing of wires. Not trying anymore, i'm awfully messy. :X
    05-23-2014 08:05 PM
  2. Keith Wallace's Avatar
    Ehh, not a big deal on the wires. I went full-on lazy mode and left mine in the open area at the bottom of my case.
    05-23-2014 08:55 PM
  3. Flagz's Avatar
    Ehh, not a big deal on the wires. I went full-on lazy mode and left mine in the open area at the bottom of my case.
    I know but I'm like very OCD, especially with a window, doesn't look as bad now if I actually crawl under desk and look lol.
    05-23-2014 09:12 PM
  4. Flagz's Avatar
    I really like the RAM and CPU cooler (would be my first choice as an air cooling aftermarket solution but I'm playing with the thought of getting a small AIO from Corsair's H-series). Though, it looks like the cooler is moving the air down towards the GPU or is it set up as pull? I'm a bit jealous, I only can install up to 6 fans (excluding the CPU cooler) :-(

    What temps do you get?

    I'm glad you got all the drivers working.
    UPDATE: Two Hours of Thief on MAX and my GPU is up to 48c and my CPU is at 29c. ;) fun stuff man!
    05-23-2014 11:21 PM
  5. S Vaibhav's Avatar
    UPDATE: Two Hours of Thief on MAX and my GPU is up to 48c and my CPU is at 29c. ;) fun stuff man!
    Is 48c normal for a gpu? Isn't it a bit too hot?
    Last edited by S Vaibhav; 05-24-2014 at 08:07 AM.
    05-23-2014 11:32 PM
  6. Flagz's Avatar
    Is 48c normal for a gpu? Isn't or a bit too hot?
    After searching around I thought it was a good temp. People with two fans are saying they get into the 60's. I asked on linustechtips and tomshardware and they said I should OC it since I'm not even breaking a sweat on it, so I'm guessing it's really low. :X
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    05-23-2014 11:55 PM
  7. QwarkDreams's Avatar
    Damn, I forgot how inaccurate the AMD temp monitor is :-/ I've read that the idle tmeps can't be trusted with AMD chips because it doesn't really measure the temps rather than "calculate" them. Also, temps below room temp are unlikely without liquid nitrogen^^

    But the GPU temps look really good. Kudos!
    05-24-2014 01:18 AM
  8. Prateek Kumar's Avatar
    It's set to pull.

    CPU is 10c idling. Not sure underload (no benchmark software)
    GPU is 28c idling? Not sure.

    Did some reorganizing of wires. Not trying anymore, i'm awfully messy. :X
    http://i59.tinypic.com/296jjh3.jpg
    Is that the cooler master elite 430
    05-24-2014 01:35 AM
  9. QwarkDreams's Avatar
    BitFenix Shinobi Window ATX Mid Tower
    Is that the cooler master elite 430
    There you go ;-)
    05-24-2014 01:38 AM
  10. Prateek Kumar's Avatar
    Motherboard: Intel H67BL
    CPU: i3 Gen 2
    RAM: 4 GB Kingston DDR3
    GPU: Sapphire HD 6670 1GB GDDR5
    Storage:500GB WD Blue
    PSU: 500W cooler master
    Cooling: 4 Cooler Master fans 120mm, don't remember the model.
    Monitor: Phillips 222EL
    Case: Cooler Master Elite 430
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    05-24-2014 01:46 AM
  11. Prateek Kumar's Avatar
    There you go ;-)
    I have the same. And I have four cooler master fans yet my CPU runs real hot up to 72 degree C and sometimes even higher.
    05-24-2014 01:49 AM
  12. Flagz's Avatar
    I have the same. And I have four cooler master fans yet my CPU runs real hot up to 72 degree C and sometimes even higher.
    Do you have an aftermarket heatsink? i3 really shouldn't be getting that hot unless it's under extreme pressure or something is wrong. That's testing the limits.

    UPDATE:
    Also what's your fan flow look like?
    05-24-2014 02:08 AM
  13. QwarkDreams's Avatar
    I have the same. And I have four cooler master fans yet my CPU runs real hot up to 72 degree C and sometimes even higher.
    72C doesn't seem right. Do you use the stock heatsink that came with the CPU? Usually there is some TIM pre-applied to it but you can unmount it, clean it and apply some new thermal paste to it.
    I have an i3-4130 and only got temps that high when I was running Burn In test. In idle I get 28-36C (depending on room temp) and abou 40-46C on load during games (well, actually I only play Diablo 3).

    @Case: Flagz' case is a Bitfenix Shinobi. I just quoted your post too ;-)
    05-24-2014 03:01 AM
  14. S Vaibhav's Avatar
    I have a Pentium D 925, it gets notoriously hot when playing games, it goes upto 65c and the fans start spinning out loud, so I redirected the AC air flow towards my case and now idle temp is 28-32c and under load, it is 45-46c. I haven't applied TIM in 2 years(Coz of entrance exams), need to buy and apply some tomorrow ^_^
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    05-24-2014 09:06 AM
  15. QwarkDreams's Avatar
    I have a Pentium D 925, it gets notoriously hot when playing games, it goes upto 65c and the fans start spinning out loud, so I redirected the AC air flow towards my case and now idle temp is 28-32c and under load, it is 45-46c. I haven't applied TIM in 2 years(Coz of entrance exams), need to buy and apply some tomorrow ^_^
    Well, 2 years should be tolerable (my old PC hasn't had a TIM replacement in 6years and worked fine!^^).
    An aftermarket CPU cooler might help too. And/or replacing the case fans with more efficient ones. But before you change too much and spend too much money on cooling a CPU that old, you might thinking about upgrading your whole rig (Socket 775 is kinda outdated when it comes to new parts; the performance is still good, though).
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    05-24-2014 11:01 PM
  16. Prateek Kumar's Avatar
    72C doesn't seem right. Do you use the stock heatsink that came with the CPU? Usually there is some TIM pre-applied to it but you can unmount it, clean it and apply some new thermal paste to it.
    I have an i3-4130 and only got temps that high when I was running Burn In test. In idle I get 28-36C (depending on room temp) and abou 40-46C on load during games (well, actually I only play Diablo 3).

    @Case: Flagz' case is a Bitfenix Shinobi. I just quoted your post too ;-)
    But the temperatures at my place reach 40 degrees or above and there's no air conditioner in my PC room. And yes I'm using the stock heat sink. And I have tried applying thermal paste in the past alot of times but the temperatures don't come down. So I feel it's because the temperatures at my place are too hot.
    05-24-2014 11:09 PM
  17. QwarkDreams's Avatar
    But the temperatures at my place reach 40 degrees or above and there's no air conditioner in my PC room. And yes I'm using the stock heat sink. And I have tried applying thermal paste in the past alot of times but the temperatures don't come down. So I feel it's because the temperatures at my place are too hot.
    If your room temperature is already at 40C thermal paste alone will not do wonders. Get an aftermarket cooler (the bigger the better, but try to stay within your budget) and if you can add more case fans. Which case do you have and how many case fans (+ where are they positioned)? Try to get as much airflow as possible. Even if your room temp is 40C the temps in the case will always be higher. Cleaning the case is important too. Dust prevents proper airflow and can prevent the parts from bein cooled (like when dust fills up the spaces in your CPU heat sink.
    05-25-2014 01:20 AM
  18. cw1988's Avatar
    General rule of thumb for airflow:

    Front/ bottom/side - intake
    Rear and Top - exhausts
    CPU Cooler - front to rear flow

    Mine is setup:
    Front - 2x120mm intake
    Bottom - 1x120mm intake(being replaced with 140mm Corsair quiet series)
    Side - 1x200mm intake
    Rear - 1x120mm exhaust (being replaced with 140mm Corsair quiet series)
    Top - 2x120mm exhaust(being replaced with 2x140mm Corsair quiet series)
    CPU - 2x140mm front to rear flow

    Current temps PWM:
    CPU:27
    MB:22
    FX:28
    Under BF4 on ultra settings-PWM
    CPU:40 max
    MB:25 max
    GFX:50 max

    After this, I have no immediate plans. The fans were all I wanted to do just to have consistency with the look and performance. I think its time I enjoy my computer instead of tweaking lol

    Flags
    The picture you posted at the top of this page, is your GFX card being pulled down by something at the back of it? It looks a bit off centre :S maybe it is the picture im not sure.

    Prateek

    High ambient room temps will definitely have an affect on the ambient temp in the case itself. How are you montoring the temperature? That seems quite high for idle even with a room temp of what you mentioned.

    I would highly recommend a decent CPU cooler, depending on what case you have, get a new one that can generate better pressures, and fans to assist with good airflow. Even a good front to rear blowing setup would work wonders.

    And as qwarkdreams mentioned, thermal paste on its own will only do so much, even different brands have a differing of 1/2 degree so it must be down to flow.
    05-25-2014 05:18 PM
  19. Flagz's Avatar
    General rule of thumb for airflow:

    Front/ bottom/side - intake
    Rear and Top - exhausts
    CPU Cooler - front to rear flow

    Mine is setup:
    Front - 2x120mm intake
    Bottom - 1x120mm intake(being replaced with 140mm Corsair quiet series)
    Side - 1x200mm intake
    Rear - 1x120mm exhaust (being replaced with 140mm Corsair quiet series)
    Top - 2x120mm exhaust(being replaced with 2x140mm Corsair quiet series)
    CPU - 2x140mm front to rear flow

    Current temps PWM:
    CPU:27
    MB:22
    FX:28
    Under BF4 on ultra settings-PWM
    CPU:40 max
    MB:25 max
    GFX:50 max

    After this, I have no immediate plans. The fans were all I wanted to do just to have consistency with the look and performance. I think its time I enjoy my computer instead of tweaking lol

    Flags
    The picture you posted at the top of this page, is your GFX card being pulled down by something at the back of it? It looks a bit off centre :S maybe it is the picture im not sure.

    Prateek

    High ambient room temps will definitely have an affect on the ambient temp in the case itself. How are you montoring the temperature? That seems quite high for idle even with a room temp of what you mentioned.

    I would highly recommend a decent CPU cooler, depending on what case you have, get a new one that can generate better pressures, and fans to assist with good airflow. Even a good front to rear blowing setup would work wonders.

    And as qwarkdreams mentioned, thermal paste on its own will only do so much, even different brands have a differing of 1/2 degree so it must be down to flow.
    Similar setup, as me! :D and no from the first time I put in my GFX Card its been off centered. I have NO idea what's wrong with it/the MB, but I'm not replacing just yet. I'll elaborate what could possibly be the problem when I get home.
    05-25-2014 07:30 PM
  20. QwarkDreams's Avatar
    Similar setup, as me! :D and no from the first time I put in my GFX Card its been off centered. I have NO idea what's wrong with it/the MB, but I'm not replacing just yet. I'll elaborate what could possibly be the problem when I get home.
    Its quite normal that GPUs sag over time. Some people buy backplates to prevent this a bit. I wonder why there hasn't been something invented to support the GPUs and give them more rigidity.

    @cw1988: Aren't most CPU coolers designed in a way that they can only be installed with the fans moving air from bottom to top? The only CPU cooler I've seen that offers the possibility to mount the fans either way is the Scythe Ninja 3.

    Before you exchange the fans on the top make sure your 8pin CPU cable will still fit through the hole above the MoBo (had to reroute mine and fixate it with a ziptie so it doesn't touch the RAM). Will exchange them anyway in the future for Corsair LED fans, add one on the bottom (plus dustfilter) and exchange the top one with a 120mm so I can route the 8pin cable behind the MoBo again).

    Btw: Noctua now has black fans :D

    I want an aftermarket cooler and everyone and everywhere I asked I got the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo recommended, but I want something more aesthetically pleasing, like the be quiet! Shadow Rock 2 but that one seems to be flimsy to install.
    05-26-2014 12:50 AM
  21. cw1988's Avatar
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    Most of the cpu coolers I looked at were mounted for front to rear cooling although it is possible to mount them for bottom to top cooling based on how you affix the mounting brackets for the retention plates.

    The bequiet rock 2 is a monster, I think it looks awesome! I believe the rock 3 is out now as well and is even bigger o.O

    I'm quite lucky for my 8pin mobo connector, it has its own hole top left above the mobo so it leaves below where the top fans mount, I think corsair did this due to the top section for the fans being designed for radiators as well.

    And for the gpu's, I agree. Imagine if you had a massive cpu cooler, some are over 1.5kg, plus SLI gfx cards with some sort of aftermarket heatsink, the weight that would be "hanging" on the mobo would be extremely high, quite scary lol
    05-26-2014 01:12 AM
  22. QwarkDreams's Avatar
    It just looked like aftermarket coolers only can installed this way. Doesn't even make sense to me, this config, since you the fans suck in air from the hot backside of the GPU. If one doesn't have a case with holes in the top this way of installing it makes even less sense.

    Yep, and there are the Dark Rocks/Pro too but all axcept the Shadow Rock 2, Dark Rock 3 and Shadow Rock Top-Flow are too big (163-166mm height and I can only fit in 165mm max., 2mm space between the heatsink and my windowed side panel is not enough for my taste).

    Mine has that cuout too but it may be too close to the fans, since the fan ends where the MoBo begins.
    I hate how I had to fixate the 8pin cable...looks ghetto now -_-
    wp_20140430_09_19_55_pro.jpg
    05-26-2014 01:28 AM
  23. jojoe42's Avatar
    Mine's an old machine (about 2009 parts) but still going strong!!!

    Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-P55-UD3
    CPU: Intel Core i5-750 2.66GHz
    GPU: ATI Radeon HD 4890 (1GB GDDR5)
    RAM: 4GB DDR3 (Corsair)
    HDD: 2x 500GB Seagate in Raid 0
    PSU: 750w Cooler Master
    Monitor: HP 2309m
    Case: Cooler Master HAF 912

    Still getting 60fps+ on Crysis 2 (extreme) and playable framerates on Titanfall at medium :D
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    05-26-2014 01:32 AM
  24. cw1988's Avatar
    I suppose its just preference. If you mount a cpu cooler going from bottom to top airflow you have the back of your gfx card cpu to contend with, and more space issues as most are designed to be a rectangle shape for front to rear cooling.

    Flip side of that, mounting for front to rear flow, you still have the heat from the card to contend with with the addition of airflow being affected by either top fans or bottom fans.

    I doubt there is an absolute "best way" and it prob depends on what other fans you have. I would still side with front to rear mounting with front intakes, and rear exhausts.

    And for the 8 pin, i have roughly 1 inch clearance so its all good.
    05-26-2014 02:16 AM
  25. QwarkDreams's Avatar
    Mine's an old machine (about 2009 parts) but still going strong!!!

    Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-P55-UD3
    CPU: Intel Core i5-750 2.66GHz
    GPU: ATI Radeon HD 4890 (1GB GDDR5)
    RAM: 4GB DDR3 (Corsair)
    HDD: 2x 500GB Seagate in Raid 0
    PSU: 750w Cooler Master
    Monitor: HP 2309m
    Case: Cooler Master HAF 912

    Still getting 60fps+ on Crysis 2 (extreme) and playable framerates on Titanfall at medium :D
    Nice rig to uprade. But it looks like - when you upgrade - you'll have to get a new MoBo (like one of the new Z97 boards, those support 4th and 5th gen Core i-CPUs (5th gen upcoming)), new CPU, GPU and more RAM. The PSU should be fine and looks kinda overkill for your build.

    Other than that: nice rig!


    I suppose its just preference. If you mount a cpu cooler going from bottom to top airflow you have the back of your gfx card cpu to contend with, and more space issues as most are designed to be a rectangle shape for front to rear cooling.

    Flip side of that, mounting for front to rear flow, you still have the heat from the card to contend with with the addition of airflow being affected by either top fans or bottom fans.

    I doubt there is an absolute "best way" and it prob depends on what other fans you have. I would still side with front to rear mounting with front intakes, and rear exhausts.

    And for the 8 pin, i have roughly 1 inch clearance so its all good.
    Ah, ok. Because of the shape of the mounting sockets for the CPU cooler I assumed that you can only mount it in one way.

    You're right, like those top-blowers. In a case without a sidepanel that offers mounting spots for fans one of those doesn't make much sense^^

    Good to know. That's one of the things I didn't of before buying my fans. I just thought "Well, they provided the mounting holes in the top, so there will be no problem if there are 140mm fans mounted"....boy, was I wrong^^

    Edit: Yay, Linus did a review of my case :D
    Last edited by QwarkDreams; 05-26-2014 at 04:11 AM.
    05-26-2014 03:44 AM
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