1. libra89's Avatar
    Because the camera is much better than my LG K7, and I can't be bothered to keep swapping the SIM cards at the moment, I have been taking my Lumia 640 with me as a sort of WiFi enabled pocket camera lol I find the images nearly as good as my little Canon ELPH 300HS most of the time. The advantage of my Canon though is that it has an optical zoom which my phone doesn't.

    My Android phone enables me to live in the real world while my Lumia 640 allows me to dabble one foot in the Windows Phone world just in case things finally do take a turn for the better. Like that phrase hasn't been heard numerous times I know!
    I can't say that I blame you about the SIM thing. I would say that it can be tiresome but as a chronic switcher, nah it never will be when I am frustrated, which is bound to happen. May I find a phone that frustrates me the least..lol.

    That is a clever idea about the whole Lumia as a camera thing. I must ask, do you always do this with the two phone thing or do you just have 2 phones when you need to?
    06-30-2016 04:16 PM
  2. anon(6078578)'s Avatar
    I can't say that I blame you about the SIM thing. I would say that it can be tiresome but as a chronic switcher, nah it never will be when I am frustrated, which is bound to happen. May I find a phone that frustrates me the least..lol.

    That is a clever idea about the whole Lumia as a camera thing. I must ask, do you always do this with the two phone thing or do you just have 2 phones when you need to?
    Well the problem is I always enclose my phones in a case and it means having to break apart the case and phone each time to swap the SIM so i am always concerned that doing this too often I'm going to break something lol

    I take it only when I need it ie when I know I want to take a bunch of decent photos. The only problem is that the OneDrive WiFi upload doesn't work as well as it used to on 8.1. It seems that when I come back to my WiFi all the photos files are listed with upload errors and retry doesn't do anything. I basically have to grab them all for that session and re-upload them again manually. I hope that one gets fixed as I like having things work seamlessly so I don't have to 'remember' to back them up each time.

    I was thinking I might switch back to using it as my main phone for a while but to be honest, the little android does everything I need and then some so there is no hurry for me. I am content to use it like I used to when I had a PDA for the time being. I am still curious as to when (or if?) T-Mobile is going to have an official release of Windows 10 Mobile for the 640...
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    06-30-2016 04:54 PM
  3. badMojo69's Avatar
    I think the Arrow Launcher on Android has more users than there are native WP users, that's sad. Also I noticed that IOS10 will have a new widget page. If they let you make it the default page and give the ability to change default apps that would be enough for me to switch.

    Android is meh...I use it now because I had to leave WP behind to get a Smartwatch. I'd rather be on IOS if not WP, but their current OS and Smartwatch offering is crap.
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    06-30-2016 07:42 PM
  4. wgs84's Avatar
    I can't say that I blame you about the SIM thing. I would say that it can be tiresome but as a chronic switcher, nah it never will be when I am frustrated, which is bound to happen. May I find a phone that frustrates me the least..lol.

    That is a clever idea about the whole Lumia as a camera thing. I must ask, do you always do this with the two phone thing or do you just have 2 phones when you need to?
    But constantly switching back and forth between your devices instead of sticking to just one device/one platform as your primary precludes the possibility of you breaking in and becoming comfortable/familiar with any one of your devices, does it not? When I switched to my GS7 last month, I gotta tell you, it was overwhelming as heck, and this is coming from someone who has used Android since its Froyo days. There were so many functions, and there was SO much stuff that needed to be configured that, honestly, I wasn't very comfortable using it at the beginning. Skip forward to a month-and-a-half later, it now has that nice, familiar feeling to it, like a pair of broken-in leather shoes, and now I absolutely love using this phone. But that only happened because I kept using it day after day, week after week, letting it mold itself to how I use it, as well as affording me the chance to learn it inside-out.

    I still keep my Lumia on, active and updated, but I just keep it SIM-less, mostly to check out the progression of W10m.
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    07-01-2016 01:40 AM
  5. libra89's Avatar
    But constantly switching back and forth between your devices instead of sticking to just one device/one platform as your primary precludes the possibility of you breaking in and becoming comfortable/familiar with any one of your devices, does it not? When I switched to my GS7 last month, I gotta tell you, it was overwhelming as heck, and this is coming from someone who has used Android since its Froyo days. There were so many functions, and there was SO much stuff that needed to be configured that, honestly, I wasn't very comfortable using it at the beginning. Skip forward to a month-and-a-half later, it now has that nice, familiar feeling to it, like a pair of broken-in leather shoes, and now I absolutely love using this phone. But that only happened because I kept using it day after day, week after week, letting it mold itself to how I use it, as well as affording me the chance to learn it inside-out.

    I still keep my Lumia on, active and updated, but I just keep it SIM-less, mostly to check out the progression of W10m.
    You have a great point about the switching. You are right about things being overwhelming on Android. It took my third Android for me to really learn things. It's really interesting that you say that though. Out of the switching I do, it primarily stayed in my iPhone SE, so I feel like I have a good handle on iOS. However, the lack of customization bothers me. Otherwise, nice battery life, and a solid device in general.

    I just want to have a phone that allows me to have a good balance between battery life, customization and simplicity. It sounds like you found a great mix of what works for you in the S7 and that's awesome. The SE ticks 2 of those three things for me, my Lumia could tick them all if I had the apps I am used to.

    I got my Nextbit Robin last night, and I'm hoping that it could be a decent middle ground for me. I'll see how the battery life goes. If it is decent enough for me and my usage, I can take a break on the switching hopefully (unless I just feel like it, which can happen too based on what I'm doing).
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    07-01-2016 08:24 AM
  6. VineRider's Avatar
    I finally gave up. After 7 years or more on Windows smartphones, I switched to IOS. The straw that broke the camel's back was the never ending issues with my Lumia 950. On my 3rd replacement for reboots and finally, when the last lockup occurred when I was driving and had to reboot my phone to take a call, that was it. I've had the 6s IPhone for 2 weeks now, not a single hiccup. The MS ecosystem is fully supported and apart from Groove Music, the app quality is on par, or better than on Windows 10 Mobile. It was hard to move as I'm a die hard MS fan(atic), but I just need a phone to work. I'm happy with the decision.
    07-01-2016 04:57 PM
  7. dellaster's Avatar
    Well, I almost switched. I was using a refurb Galaxy S3 for a month in preparation to buy a brand new Android smartphone and made the mistake of turning on my nearly four year old Lumia 920 again (W10M preview). Fell in love all over again!

    Then Verizon announced the official W10M upgrade--and Groupon had a refurb Icon for $99--so I could move to a decent Lumia without risking much money, just in case a crucial app (for me) drops from the Store and I have to leave after all. I had a 1520 for a year and liked it, but it was too large. The Icon should be fine. :)

    Oddly, although Android had apps galore, I only ever installed the same apps as on the Lumia 920 (functionally the same if not actually identical). And of those, only the weather apps were better IMO (e.g. Intellicast). Several were worse (there's nothing even close to Nextgen Reader or Manga Blaze). So, for me, there's effectively no app gap.

    We'll just have to see how things go.
    Last edited by dellaster; 07-01-2016 at 08:31 PM.
    07-01-2016 07:17 PM
  8. libra89's Avatar
    So it's been a day with the Nextbit Robin. After doing the initial charge, I charged again when I got home but I did use my phone normally for the most part. Even though I was trying to run the battery down to the end, I did get close to 20 hours since my original charge time. Not as impressive as it is with the iPhone but to be fair, setting up and tinkering things takes a bit out of the battery too and I decided to continue on anyway.

    It's crazy how tweaking some settings can make a difference for battery life. I'll give it a week to see how things go when I'm not playing with launchers, icons and all of that.
    07-01-2016 11:57 PM
  9. thron's Avatar
    My 830 died and I could get a cheap Android phone and be on my way in a matter of minutes. But no, I miss what I have lost and purchased as close as possible replacement in the 640.

    It is deplorable how difficult it is to find a Windows phone in stores. Cricket wanted to charge me $130 (plus "activation" ..for an already-customer) for the same device that's $28.99/$9.99 on their site. Another Cricket store in a Gamestop only had Androids.. Bestbuy only has old or T-Mobile Windows phones.. ugh.

    Now I sit through a holiday weekend phone-less because I needed such a close replica of the phone I have lost. Not going anywhere until Microsoft kills W10 Mobile.
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    07-02-2016 01:38 AM
  10. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    My 830 died and I could get a cheap Android phone and be on my way in a matter of minutes. But no, I miss what I have lost and purchased as close as possible replacement in the 640.

    It is deplorable how difficult it is to find a Windows phone in stores. Cricket wanted to charge me $130 (plus "activation" ..for an already-customer) for the same device that's $28.99/$9.99 on their site. Another Cricket store in a Gamestop only had Androids.. Bestbuy only has old or T-Mobile Windows phones.. ugh.

    Now I sit through a holiday weekend phone-less because I needed such a close replica of the phone I have lost. Not going anywhere until Microsoft kills W10 Mobile.
    I'm sorry to hear you've had so many difficulties getting a new phone.
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    07-02-2016 01:57 AM
  11. RumoredNow's Avatar
    My 830 died
    HeyCori has your replacement: http://forums.windowscentral.com/mar...30-extras.html
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    07-02-2016 01:59 PM
  12. ricardocr's Avatar
    Based on many comments over here I think it is sad that those leaving are the longest supporting fans, wake up MS
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    07-03-2016 12:15 PM
  13. Vlad M1's Avatar
    Guys, wanted to drop my 2 cents.
    Let's not take things so dramatically :)

    I've been with Windows phone 7, and I loved it until 10. I had the pones:
    lumia 640, 920, 925, 930, htc hd 7 (old windows 7) etc...
    I got lumia 950 xl just after launch BUT THAT PHONE made me leave the platform after 6 years. So many bugs, it was not fluent like windows phone 8. Got myself a samsung s7, and it's a beautiful phone, but I just don't like android. Sure, you have apps, but honestly ... I have a browser, it's more than enough for me.

    I didn't even set pictures for my contacts or set custom ringtones, it's just not for me.
    So the idea is this. tons of us left the platform, but I AM SURE that 90% who left (and once loved the platform) will come back when we get a cool phone (a surface phone) and the issues with the OS will be fixed. So although a lot are switching, don't be sad :) At least for me, I am sure I will turn back to windows when a decent flagship will be released.

    Good luck :D
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    07-03-2016 06:15 PM
  14. kesken's Avatar
    Even though I moved to the htc 10 (great phone) I still have my 920 as backup and every time I use it, it feels so much more natural and smooth than android. Everything just flows. But this is WP8.1. Using windows 10 moved me to android in the first place. Windows 10 had more features, but lost it's personality in my opinion. Plus bugs, bugs and more bugs. I'm still impressed with the hardware of the 920. What a work of art . I wanted to legitimize getting a new phone by saying that the 920 dies but it just refused to . Over 3 years and not a problem. Holding it is a bit bittersweet, because I have yet to see any modern phone offer that unique package, especially in the windows sphere. Software wise android works with everything. I'm not even talking about apps. Android is compatible with any smartphone related service out there. Windows 10 is still developing so I have high hopes. They really need to come good with excellent hardware and mature software. Sadly it may take a couple years for that to come to fruition.
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    07-03-2016 08:32 PM
  15. Blu3V3nom07's Avatar
    I gotta say, though: I've been playing with the launcher Asus just put out, and I'm liking it loads better than my LG G4 original skin, and I just never liked Nova. Asus's is a little glitchy, I'm just glad not to be on the LG stuff, though.
    07-03-2016 11:01 PM
  16. libra89's Avatar
    I gotta say, though: I've been playing with the launcher Asus just put out, and I'm liking it loads better than my LG G4 original skin, and I just never liked Nova. Asus's is a little glitchy, I'm just glad not to be on the LG stuff, though.
    I think it's kind of crazy how much a launcher (and/or an OS) can possibly change your experience on Android.
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    07-03-2016 11:21 PM
  17. mikepalma's Avatar
    I'm amazed that even MS owned Skype works so much better on iOS. Can move the little window in iOS for example but now w10m...
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    07-04-2016 09:12 AM
  18. Keith Kerswell's Avatar
    I can't believe that I'm even contemplating this...

    I've been a Windows mobile fan ever since the Nokia Lumia 800 was launched back in 2011. Granted, I didn't buy that device because the app gap back then was too huge and it was missing some basic functionality which Android and iOS already had. However, I worked in the mobile phone industry and used the phone every day in work.

    Over the next couple of years I went with Android, various models, but we had a bitter divorce and I would now say that it is my least favourite of the three OSs on offer. So I jumped ship to Apple...sad sad day, I know. I loved that every app I wanted was there. Everything the people in my social circle could do, so could I.

    Then one day, along came the Nokia Lumia 520 in Cyan and I got it for giggles as a spare phone. Even though my iPhone was vastly superior in almost every aspect of a smart phone, I loved that phone so much that I sold the iPhone 4S and used the 520 as my main...crazy. But I loved it, the live tiles, Microsoft, Nokia, being the underdog...just loved the whole damn thing. And from then until now, I've been a very strong advocate for the OS, even released apps on that platform alone.

    As we all know, things improved over time and more apps came to us. I'd follow Microsoft and Windows Phone news daily, and yes there was daily news. Then came along Windows 10 and all of its potential. The bridges to help devs easily port their apps over. A new chapter. With it came the first big problem, the 950 and 950XL. From the day I saw them, I felt a sense of doom come over me. Yes, I read the stories, it was the last piece of the Nokia/Microsoft puzzle and they needed a 'Flagship' to aim Windows 10 Mobile at.

    Now, some months on, I am surrounded by iOS. Everybody in my household has an iPhone, friends have an iPhone, and this isn't the main issue. I mean, I can't say I love the design, though it is pretty sweet in fairness. It's how they use them. FaceTime, apps, games, the whole lot of it. And all along I'm thinking, tough, I don't care because I love the Windows mobile OS. Just looking at it makes me happy. Then, time goes on and an app pops up that I want and I can't get it. OK, I'll deal with it, I have in the past. Then an app is available but severely lacking in functionality compared to the big boys. Annoyed, but I have an app and that's a good sign.

    But now, I have the latest fast build installed on my phone and the battery lasts about 2hrs before needing a charge. "Don't use it on your main device" they said. "Just for testing" they said. But I don't care, I need to see the OS going forward and I couldn't bare the hit of another backward step, even if that step is a small one. Then, apps start getting pulled from the store and we are left wondering if a Windows 10 version is coming. Maybe it will, maybe it wont. However, in the meantime, I've been using an old iPhone 5c and I feel all dirty again but more like a sort of relaxing mud bath kind of dirty.

    Apps, they're there. Fully functioning apps, even banking apps, check! Now, just to throw a curve ball in there, it's not all lovers paradise over on iOS. First of all, I still hate how locked down the OS is. Some of my everyday apps on Windows mobile aren't on iOS, which was a shocker. I can't stream to my Xbox. What the hell is up with the iOS alarm? The alarm on windows is amazing, increasing in volume, set snooze duration, doesn't switch off until you wake the hell up! Not on iOS, that's 8mins snooze with no compromise and if you don't get up soon enough then it'll switch itself off...what is up with that?!?

    So, I've written too much but it is a topic that I am very passionate about. I've been holding out on an upgrade for over six months now, and this week it's happening...I'm upgrading to an iPhone with all of its functionality, fully beefed up apps, Wallet for my contactless bank cards and enough useless apps you can shake a stick at.

    This sad day does come with a couple of caveats though. Release on the Surface phone, I'm back in business. Apps that have left come back with all of their Windows 10 goodness, I'll be back. Of course I'll still be keeping my Lumia as, like I said, it has things on there that iOS can't offer. And I'll feel bad most of the time. But there is only so much "Coming Soon....maybe" a guy can take.

    Sorry...
    Last edited by Laura Knotek; 07-05-2016 at 02:03 AM. Reason: language edited by mod
    07-04-2016 06:17 PM
  19. mikepalma's Avatar
    Yep. In short, everything already works in iOS.
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    07-05-2016 06:48 AM
  20. rockstarzzz's Avatar
    I can't believe that I'm even contemplating this...<snip> used the 520 as my main <snip>I have the latest fast build installed on my phone and the battery lasts about 2hrs before needing a charge. <snip>
    So you left because you couldn't get decent battery on a 520 that is running a beta developmental software? I wonder if you subject your 5c to iOS beta, what your opinion may be.

    Completely with the spirit of this thread, you made the right choice for yourself as you wanted all those apps when surrounded by iPhone users. It is a serious peer pressure that one needs to resist if they want to avoid an iPhone in their life. But as far as apps are your reason for a phone, you need an iPhone and there is no second option to that.
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    07-05-2016 11:04 AM
  21. chmun77's Avatar
    Meanwhile, on the Windows 10 mobile platform.....

    Here Maps finally stops working on Windows 10 Mobile - MSPoweruser
    07-05-2016 11:40 AM
  22. Vijay_Anand's Avatar
    That's more or less why I moved from y 950 to an iPhone 6s, too. Couldn't be happier. I will continue using the 950 for its camera, though.
    07-05-2016 11:40 AM
  23. azteca911's Avatar
    Losing Here Maps is a big strike for me. I really liked it and used it daily.
    07-05-2016 11:58 AM
  24. psyhound's Avatar
    Meanwhile, on the Windows 10 mobile platform.....

    Here Maps finally stops working on Windows 10 Mobile - MSPoweruser
    And yet it works flawlessly on my P9 lite. :D
    07-05-2016 01:48 PM
  25. mikepalma's Avatar
    So you left because you couldn't get decent battery on a 520 that is running a beta developmental software? I wonder if you subject your 5c to iOS beta, what your opinion may be.

    Completely with the spirit of this thread, you made the right choice for yourself as you wanted all those apps when surrounded by iPhone users. It is a serious peer pressure that one needs to resist if they want to avoid an iPhone in their life. But as far as apps are your reason for a phone, you need an iPhone and there is no second option to that.
    I get what your saying, however "iOS beta" doesn't last a year...
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    07-05-2016 03:54 PM
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