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  1. thron's Avatar
    But I am done being mocked by the people for not having so many apps and games and that I have to always compromise.
    I mean this in the most polite way possible:
    If you're being 'mocked' and it's affecting you, it's more of a problem with who you choose to associate with, than the phone you're using.

    Grow some thicker skin, too. The same people dissing you for not having the latest fad app probably paid 3-4x what you did for your Windows Phone. (and maybe they only bought it so they could be 'cool' like the rest of their friends...)

    I've encountered a few people who are always late and behind on their bills walking around with the latest iphones as soon as they come out. Some peoples' priorities in life are just out of whack.
    07-20-2016 06:39 PM
  2. GeterOnityD7's Avatar
    I am on windows phone for around 2 years my first windows phone was lumia 630 duos,and my curent phone is lumia 640 xl,everything turned to worse since windows 10 mobile for me,i loved windows 8.1 but windows 10 dissapointed me rly bad,i will give some facts which in my opinion is the main reason i give up on smartphones in general,First of all windows 10 mobile are really bad and i will tell you exactly all the apps that fail to me,Microsoft edge:keyboard takes 10 s to load,you click on search and you have to click again till keyboard show up,when i click a link on edge it zooms in,and if i click again it zooms out,i have to zoom in and click link properly,sometimes it even hangs when trying to type,Photos app:I zoom in a picture then zoom out,then try to got to next one and it acts like i am still zoomed in same pic,Music app:When i have locked screen and try to change song it shows next song like i skip two times then it starts,Takes more time to boot then windows 8.1 (i dont have tha many apps.) I wont start with the app gap cause before i bought windows phone i know it doesnt have everything (and i mean for games cause u can find every app android has but with diff name) I paid for a product that works properly instead i ended up with this beta OS,i convinced familly members and friends to buy Windows Phones,and now i am leaving smartphones,android or iOS are not alternative option for me,i will go for a simple phone that makes only calls,i think Microsoft didnt put the effort she got to,and she promised things she couldnt do,All i want to say is that dont hope for something you paid for,you paid and you should get it perfect from the first moment,Windows 10 for pc are very good,but if you really mind the money you gave you will see my point of view,i dont hate microsoft or windows phones,as i said i dont believe there will be better phones as windows phones for what specs they offer with such price but thats not enough.
    07-20-2016 07:00 PM
  3. pradha91's Avatar
    I am a windows mobile user since 2008.
    1) When HTC launched touch viva 2, I bought it and I liked it. compact and good and i could boast myself using Office apps on a phone like that with a stylus etc and HTC's design was the best (and its still the best). I hate them for not producing such WM phones these days.

    2) Then when 6.5 was launched I bought HD2 again from HTC shelling out more money this time and it did not get upgrade to 7 though i managed some unofficial port and enjoyed for sometime.

    3) Then in 2012 December I bought the L820 finally, one of the 2 phones launched with WP8. That is my primary device till now. I am completely ok with WP and now im on insider slow build using WM10 and probably getting the anniversary update today or tomorrow. However I feel MS is taking things too too slow and its assuming many things by itself. I am a user of WM for the past 8 years and i see not much development in the category.

    4)I strongly believe it will develop ( i am still a hardcore fan of Windows mobile. I also own a Surface Pro 3 and a HP ENVY DV6 and a customized desktop with 4 TB HDD, 32 gigs of ram and a NVIDIA GTX 960). I am loving all those but the mobile category seems to be a downfall. You pay a premium rate but get under par service.

    A CHANGE:
    5)I have ordered the One Plus 3 device today to change for sometime and may be will shift back once the Surface Phone is launched. I do not want to shell money on 950 or 950XL, i am sure they wont be future proof when surface is launched with some new technology.

    Just sharing my ideas. Please drop your comments. and no harsh feelings please. We all are WP lovers :) :)
    Maurizio Troso and ven07 like this.
    07-20-2016 08:33 PM
  4. chmun77's Avatar
    I really don't want to use any android device, regardless of how cheap it is or how highly specd it is. I even doubt that model or company is available in my country.
    The equivalent of cheap high specd phones do exist here such infinix or tecno or wiko etc
    Since you don't prefer any android, I guess you have to stay with windows phone if you feel this is the platform for you. There is no right or wrong answers to this.

    There are others (in this forum) who feel that windows phone just cannot satisfy their daily needs, including myself. From social to banking apps, to even the latest Pokemon Go (whether you playing that or not is another matter), etc etc, every single app on windows phone cannot compete with the quality and availability of the same apps on Android / iOS platforms. I tried the latest Facebook Messenger for windows phone on my 640XL, and gosh! Slow startup, lags when going in and out of conversations, every single tap action seems to have certain kind of delays. Fortunately, when I'm back to my XiaoMi Note 3, everything is happening so quickly and buttery smooth.

    I'm not sure about you, but my relationship with windows phone is a period. It's an atrocious platform! I know it's kind of harsh, but that's my view of this pathetic platform.
    07-20-2016 08:36 PM
  5. xandros9's Avatar
    Moved to Introductions.

    Hi.

    And as for your title, the answer is yes.
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    07-20-2016 09:05 PM
  6. Allen Rhodes's Avatar
    It's not that it's harsh, it's completely biased and uncalled for. The platform is in Beta, plain and simple. The fact many of the whiners cant seem to grasp that SIMPLE notion is beyond me. The "buggy" apps are few and far between in my 950xl. I love reviews where the hardware is old, yet it's the OS causing the issue. Go follow the fan-droid forum. Criticism is allowed, but cmon you obviously hate the platform and can't be critical. I would LOVE for my 950xl to never have an app crash, but it does. As it does on iOS and Android. The major difference is the refinement and polish on those. I had an iPhone at the very beginning, in my opinion, Windows 10m surpasses it at the same place in time. 10 is not an UPDATE to 8.1, it is a ground up rebuild. Get that straight. And what they have done in this amount of time is amazing. Look up how long iOS was in development....
    07-20-2016 10:40 PM
  7. Scienceguy Labs's Avatar
    Moved to Introductions.

    Hi.

    And as for your title, the answer is yes.
    I like that answer. Ha ha
    xandros9 likes this.
    07-20-2016 11:50 PM
  8. Sonu K's Avatar
    the question is - are those Xiaomi phones really good for quality? After sales service? Or potential for updates? And how do they manufacture at such low prices?
    Yes. Also I think it depends on which model you are buying. In Android, always select a popular model. If something goes wrong, company will be forced to take action because of huge number of complaints.. Ha ha.. I did not have to go to a service center yet... Xiaomi has their own UI design called MIUI. So, you'll never know which version of Android you are using unless you check on the settings section. MIUI has some unique features which other android phones don't have. My redmi note3 runs on MIUI 7.3 now. They are launching MIUI 8 next month. And unlike Microsoft who love to reduce their consumer base with every update, they are updating all devices. Almost every company can manufacture mobile phones for a cheap price. It's just that they(Including Microsoft) are looting us by choosing the wrong business model. Xiaomi don't have any physical stores in my country. They sell the phones exclusively through their website and two e-commercial sites. And did flash sales initially. That increased the exclusiveness. Also they didn't launch a flagship first. They tested the waters with cheap but reliable value for money phones. Then launched their flagship which is called MI5. That is one business model which works. Microsoft has anyway announced that they are no more interested in my country's market. Don't get me wrong, I loved windows phone. It's Microsoft who knowingly put every single nail on its coffin. I'll never ever recommend anyone to use any MS product. Because I'll never know when they'll shoot on their own foot. Microsoft should have remembered something, there is a whole new generation growing up who don't have to touch a Microsoft product to access the Internet. They forgot the basics.

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    Last edited by Sonu K; 07-21-2016 at 12:14 AM.
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    07-20-2016 11:58 PM
  9. Sonu K's Avatar
    hardware is getting cheaper but have we thought why? The rare earth metals used in the manufacture have a finite supply and some of that comes from regions with conflicts. Environmental effects - do mining companies deal with properly or cut corners? Factory safety and adequate worker compensation - is that strictly followed?

    What's the difference between chips made on the road side and in a restaurant? The road side chips could be made in unhygienic conditions, using overused oil, suspect potatoes etc. You might not get sick the first time or the next but eventually something will happen (I'm speaking from experience as I got jaundice from a roadside chips seller)
    That "eventually something might happen" sounds like how I use to wait for Windows phone updates and new devices which was always 'coming soon'. I'm not going to use a phone for more than 3 years. So if something happens I'll buy a new phone. I'm sure then also many Microsoft features will be still in coming soon stage for W10. Jokes apart, it's really sad to see a company who had potential killing is own product.

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    07-21-2016 12:04 AM
  10. chmun77's Avatar
    Yes. Also I think it depends on which model you are buying. In Android, always select a popular model. If something goes wrong, company will be forced to take action because of huge number of complaints.. Ha ha.. I did not have to go to a service center yet... Xiaomi has their own UI design called MIUI. So, you'll never know which version of Android you are using unless you check on the settings section. MIUI has some unique features which other android phones don't have. My redmi note3 runs on MIUI 7.3 now. They are launching MIUI 8 next month. And unlike Microsoft who love to reduce their consumer base with every update, they are updating all devices. Almost every company can manufacture mobile phones for a cheap price. It's just that they(Including Microsoft) are looting us by choosing the wrong business model. Xiaomi don't have any physical stores in my country. They sell the phones exclusively through their website and two e-commercial sites. And did flash sales initially. That increased the exclusiveness. Also they didn't launch a flagship first. They tested the waters with cheap but reliable value for money phones. Then launched their flagship which is called MI5. That is one business model which works. Microsoft has anyway announced that they are no more interested in my country's market. Don't get me wrong, I loved windows phone. It's Microsoft who knowingly put every single nail on its coffin. I'll never ever recommend anyone to use any MS product. Because I'll never know when they'll shoot on their own foot. Microsoft should have remembered something, there is a whole new generation growing up who don't have to touch a Microsoft product to access the Internet. They forgot the basics.

    Posted via the Windows Central App for Skynet
    I think Xiaomi has put in so much more efforts on their MIUI as compared to Microsoft doing with their Windows 10 Mobile.

    Sonu K likes this.
    07-21-2016 04:39 AM
  11. Chintan Gohel's Avatar
    Since you don't prefer any android, I guess you have to stay with windows phone if you feel this is the platform for you. There is no right or wrong answers to this.

    There are others (in this forum) who feel that windows phone just cannot satisfy their daily needs, including myself. From social to banking apps, to even the latest Pokemon Go (whether you playing that or not is another matter), etc etc, every single app on windows phone cannot compete with the quality and availability of the same apps on Android / iOS platforms. I tried the latest Facebook Messenger for windows phone on my 640XL, and gosh! Slow startup, lags when going in and out of conversations, every single tap action seems to have certain kind of delays. Fortunately, when I'm back to my XiaoMi Note 3, everything is happening so quickly and buttery smooth.

    I'm not sure about you, but my relationship with windows phone is a period. It's an atrocious platform! I know it's kind of harsh, but that's my view of this pathetic platform.
    I'm still going with windows mobile, I see a future there.
    07-21-2016 05:42 AM
  12. pradha91's Avatar
    Lol. i know windows phone is good :)
    Chintan Gohel likes this.
    07-21-2016 06:19 AM
  13. Ma Rio's Avatar
    Of course it's good. We're all waiting for that Surface Phone.
    Chintan Gohel likes this.
    07-21-2016 09:20 AM
  14. ven07's Avatar
    Heya so welcome to the forums and goodbye?

    Kidding, but do hope you enjoy that 1+. Don't think the 950 series will be abandoned by MS when the SPhone is launched.

    To answer your question; yes, windows 10 mobile is good, for me anyways
    Chintan Gohel likes this.
    07-21-2016 11:13 AM
  15. jdballard's Avatar
    I keep running out of internal storage to even download the updates. Everything I possibly can is on the microsd card. But I have to delete basic apps just to complete an update. Who in the world thought 8GB of internal storage was enough for a large smartphone was crazy!
    Yep, 8GB is ridiculous. This is where it'd be nice if WP had the feature that Android does of formatting the SD card as a part of the actual phone storage. You could easily bump an 8GB phone to 40GB by adding a 32GB card.
    Chintan Gohel likes this.
    07-21-2016 12:15 PM
  16. pradha91's Avatar
    Of course it's good. We're all waiting for that Surface Phone.
    Yepp me too. Once that releases and i have sufficient money I am in for it :) :) Got a SP3, may buy a SP5 if i like. wishing to see SP5 and Surface Phone release together. that would be awesome and they can even bundle it for a promotional offer or make it in such a way that both together is awesome.
    Chintan Gohel likes this.
    07-21-2016 12:49 PM
  17. pradha91's Avatar
    Heya so welcome to the forums and goodbye?

    Kidding, but do hope you enjoy that 1+. Don't think the 950 series will be abandoned by MS when the SPhone is launched.

    To answer your question; yes, windows 10 mobile is good, for me anyways
    No i am not saying that the 950 will be abandoned. But i m saying there will be a upgrade in future that might focus more on the abilities of Surface phone and that cannot be done by the 950 series. its technology. I ordered a one plus 3 now and im sure in a matter of 5-6 months it will be outdated. so its not like not abandoning but its like a lion's share would go to surface phone for a while and then back to lumia series upon launch of next versions. Yes I do love windows phone and I will use it as my secondary device where i will finally experiment in fast builds lol
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    07-21-2016 12:50 PM
  18. Sonu K's Avatar
    Of course it's good. We're all waiting for that Surface Phone.
    Coming Soon

    Posted via the Windows Central App for Skynet
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    07-21-2016 11:44 PM
  19. pradha91's Avatar
    I like that answer. Ha ha
    lol guys :) :)
    07-22-2016 12:32 AM
  20. mikepalma's Avatar
    Switched to iOS after returning my overheating 950xl. Running iOS 10 beta on 2.5 yr old iPhone 6- everything works perfectly on this 2 week old beta, unlike the perpetual W10M beta which was crapware for a year plus.

    The truth is MS has given up on consumer phones and will only focus on enterprise where apps matter much less.
    Last edited by mikepalma; 07-22-2016 at 01:52 AM.
    07-22-2016 01:25 AM
  21. chmun77's Avatar
    I'm still going with windows mobile, I see a future there.
    Maybe you are right but no one truly knows what will happen in the future. Perhaps there will be no more iPhone, or perhaps Microsoft will throw in the towel for windows 10 mobile when another CEO takes over.

    For me, I just use whichever platform suit me the most now. Simple as that. Applies the same for you too. When the future is near, I shall see again if this platform and its apps have ever improved over time. :)
    Chintan Gohel likes this.
    07-22-2016 01:51 AM
  22. libra89's Avatar
    Switched to iOS after returning my overheating 950xl. Running iOS 10 beta on 2.5 yr old iPhone 6- everything works perfectly on this 2 week old beta, unlike the perpetual W10M beta which was crapware for a year plus.

    The truth is MS has given up on consumer phones and will only focus on enterprise where apps matter much less.
    I'm excited about being able to actually hide (most) system apps in iOS 10.

    If it's anything like how it is on my HTC One A9, I'm ready!

    For me, I just use whichever platform suit me the most now. Simple as that. Applies the same for you too. When the future is near, I shall see again if this platform and its apps have ever improved over time. :)
    I agree with you, well said. I keep saying it but there are things that I love about Windows Mobile, iOS, and Android. There are also things that I don't like either, of course.

    I think fighting to use a platform that you (general you) are struggling with is for what it might lack for you is just silly. Then again, I'm the same person who likes her iPhone a LOT but can't use it full-time because of aesthetics (no customization). I knew that going in, but I didn't know how much it would bother me.

    Windows Mobile customization is still my perfect aesthetic BUT some of the apps aren't there for me yet.
    07-22-2016 07:21 AM
  23. digitaldd's Avatar
    Yep, 8GB is ridiculous. This is where it'd be nice if WP had the feature that Android does of formatting the SD card as a part of the actual phone storage. You could easily bump an 8GB phone to 40GB by adding a 32GB card.
    That feature was part of Windows Phone 7, for some reason it got removed in WP8. I recall a friend had a Samsung phone (the Focus maybe) that did this and was running WP7.
    07-22-2016 07:36 AM
  24. wgs84's Avatar
    I'm excited about being able to actually hide (most) system apps in iOS 10.
    I really wish this was allowed back when I was a user of iOS 6. I had to make this "junk" folder and "hide" it on the second screen along with newsstand.
    Guytronic and libra89 like this.
    07-22-2016 01:17 PM
  25. kokola's Avatar
    It's not that it's harsh, it's completely biased and uncalled for. The platform is in Beta, plain and simple. The fact many of the whiners cant seem to grasp that SIMPLE notion is beyond me. The "buggy" apps are few and far between in my 950xl. I love reviews where the hardware is old, yet it's the OS causing the issue. Go follow the fan-droid forum. Criticism is allowed, but cmon you obviously hate the platform and can't be critical. I would LOVE for my 950xl to never have an app crash, but it does. As it does on iOS and Android. The major difference is the refinement and polish on those. I had an iPhone at the very beginning, in my opinion, Windows 10m surpasses it at the same place in time. 10 is not an UPDATE to 8.1, it is a ground up rebuild. Get that straight. And what they have done in this amount of time is amazing. Look up how long iOS was in development....
    950/950XL sold with W10M.
    Stop calling the platform beta.
    07-22-2016 01:22 PM
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