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  1. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    I know the SD808 runs hot on some devices but that may be a product of software optimization rather than a bad chip. Correct me if I'm wrong but the Moto Pure runs on this silicon and I'm not aware of any heating issues with it.
    I had heating issues with the original Moto X Pure that I bought, but it was a defective device. The replacement I got runs ~20 cooler than the original.
    11-23-2016 11:10 AM
  2. libra89's Avatar
    Got the unlocked Cricket 650 today and whoa it is light! Nice looking though and yeah it is actually unlocked! Has Band 12 too so I plan to use that for data!



    If I like it and it works out, I'll need a back cover to not have the Cricket stamp anymore. I really hope it works out though since I'm out of Windows options unless I decide to get a 950 again.
    11-23-2016 05:03 PM
  3. sidtek50's Avatar
    I really, really needed to print an email today from my L950. After reading around, it turns out that I cant. Every day now I'm discovering more and more I can't do with the device. If it wasn't for my current circumstances I'd be looking for an alternative I'm afraid.
    11-23-2016 05:21 PM
  4. sonicmotion's Avatar
    I agree, on my iphone the best part is I now have any app I desire, but the rest of it is a complete mess.
    11-24-2016 12:09 PM
  5. Kacchan's Avatar
    My honeymoon period with my official return to Windows is over. While I like it better than ios, certain refinements it lacks in comparison are annoying the crap out of me ha
    11-24-2016 01:29 PM
  6. dorelse's Avatar
    My honeymoon period with my official return to Windows is over. While I like it better than ios, certain refinements it lacks in comparison are annoying the crap out of me ha
    Curious...what?
    11-24-2016 04:51 PM
  7. Kacchan's Avatar
    Curious...what?
    1. I noticed small things like rotation. On my iPhone it rotates instantly where as my idol 4s, has a second or two delay.

    2. When someone sends me a picture when the message comes in or whenever you want to view the pic from the message its a jerky/choppy animation.

    In general the animations on Windows 10 mobile don't feel laggy as android but they are just sort of choppy

    Add in random error messages where my camera pops up with and closes.
    11-24-2016 07:29 PM
  8. sd4f's Avatar
    How do ms fix this? They stick it out, they innovate and hope and pray that the devs come.

    If they don't, MS are in big trouble here. Make no bones about it, the next generation of kids are growing up using IOS and android, there's a chance ms could lose the OS battle completely.

    M
    I think the messages being sent out indicate that MS have largely lost interest in the platform, at this point in time, they recognise that they've lost and can't compete. I suspect that they still have a team working on it so as not to throw existing users under a bus, and primarily to keep the platform on standby in the hope that they may want to start it up again.

    Nadella was interviewed recently and was asked about mobile.

    If anything will come out, it won't be any time soon, so there's absolutely no point holding out for anything new at this time. I'm quite sure that there is no new features, or phones from MS being currently planned for the next year or two. Supporting the platform with their own apps is even starting to look tentative.

    I strongly suspect that the bad news this year and market failure of W10M, has prompted a significant change in strategy. I can't imagine what innovation would pull MS out of their torpor, but it will have to be significant, so much so, that I really have my doubts that anything will come. For starters, we know that it can't be a 'killer app' since, no one will use it on W10M if it's exclusive, and MS will support it on all platforms anyway, giving users no reason to switch.
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    11-24-2016 10:18 PM
  9. teiva's Avatar
    I love my 950XL and I love Win 10 Mobile. It is by far the best mobile OS in the market with integration amongst multiple hardware streams being it's most outstanding feature. I'm quite disillusioned with Microsoft themselves. For the moment they have abandoned the consumer market period. Support will continue for W10M. It is not dead and will continue to be developed. I was ok with lack of certain apps in the beginning . I understand it takes time to entice developers over, given the tiny market (relative to the other 2 main players). I believe the biggest obstacle to be overcome is Microsofts mindset. They are large enough to take a hit on W10M whilst developing for all their products. Unfortunately this is done at the expense of those faithful (like myself). I have quite a few products now dumped by Microsoft at a whim. It's frustrating for us. We are the ones that convinced our friends and family to come across to the OS only to see those very people abandon the platform basically because of the lack of apps. To cut a long story short, I'm back on Android as my main mobile driver. Do I like it, well yes and no. I do enjoy the apps again and it was something I sacrificed when I came across to W10M. Do I believe it's better then W10M, absolutely not. Integration is the one thing that neither IOS or Android have and I do miss it. I will at some stage revisit W10M. For the moment I'm back on the Android train for my mobile needs. PS. Kudos to MS for developing kick arse apps for android. That's the sort of effort they need to put in to their W10W apps.
    FXi2 likes this.
    11-25-2016 11:23 PM
  10. joshcaleb27's Avatar
    Switched from android the the Alcatel Idol 4S with Windows. Loving it
    11-25-2016 11:25 PM
  11. jazen's Avatar
    To cut a long story short, I'm back on Android as my main mobile driver. Do I like it, well yes and no. I do enjoy the apps again and it was something I sacrificed when I came across to W10M.
    I know how you feel. It is a shame when I first switched to Windows Phone, I already had a limited set of apps I actually used. Now that number is reduced to 5 remaining supported non-MS apps (facebook, gasbuddy, NextGen Reader, RideWithGPS, and ebay). Quite frankly, I have stuck to Windows Phone 8.1 because I am still bitter about the UI changes made to w10m and general quirkiness. While I understand the decision why they moved things around due to Universal Apps, there's no rhyme or reason for some things (the actual phone app for example with buttons at the top and bottom of the screen, despite not being on windows 10 desktop or tablet interfaces). It feels like android with launcher8 will be sufficient if I want sloppy button placement.

    That being said, I have just purchased a Lumia 950 xl + Lumia 950 since my roommate wants the XL (upgrading from a 635), and I figure I would give the 950 a go.

    What android phone did you end up with, if you don't mind me asking?
    11-26-2016 09:17 AM
  12. aximtreo's Avatar
    I used a few Android phones. The Note 4, Note 5 and a few of the Nexus models. I finally decided to use the Nexus 6 for the longest period of time. I soon ran out of love for Android and am now using an iPhone 6s Plus. Love it so far.
    libra89 and Guytronic like this.
    11-26-2016 09:55 AM
  13. beman39's Avatar
    I used a few Android phones. The Note 4, Note 5 and a few of the Nexus models. I finally decided to use the Nexus 6 for the longest period of time. I soon ran out of love for Android and am now using an iPhone 6s Plus. Love it so far.
    **yaaawn** borrriiing LOL iPhone is so boring! android is a little more fun
    11-26-2016 11:02 AM
  14. aximtreo's Avatar
    **yaaawn** borrriiing LOL iPhone is so boring! android is a little more fun
    Depends on your likes and dis-likes. I do have a Lumia 650 as backup. LOL
    11-26-2016 12:55 PM
  15. Shamshi-Adad's Avatar
    I installed 14956 on my ICON via wifi on night #1, updated any apps, but then powered it off and tossed it on the shelf because I didn't have any service on it. I'd disco'd it when I got my S7 edge upgrade. I just ASSumed I shouldn't keep the service on the ICON cause of the cost.
    So, yesterday, I figured I'd call VZW, ya know it bein' Black Friday and all - 46 minutes on hold BUT got VZW service on the ICON yesterday with 2 bonus gigs for life on my same account only $20/mo for service.
    Anyway been driving it since yesterday and everything runs smooth as silk. She's sweet - I'll give her that.

    Peace. Alan
    Even when I lose, I win.
    Galaxy S7Edge [MM6.0.1] Full Dresser
    Lumia ICON [Win10M 14965.1001] Sportster
    Last edited by Shamshi-Adad; 11-26-2016 at 03:04 PM.
    11-26-2016 02:48 PM
  16. libra89's Avatar
    Depends on your likes and dis-likes. I do have a Lumia 650 as backup. LOL
    I would agree with this. Everyone is different.

    At this point in time, I can't imagine not having one of each (I know I sound nuts ). I might be a chronic switcher but I LOVE having the choice. Choosing well for Android has opened my eyes. I really enjoy my Honor 8. It's great that it feels like a middle ground to an extent for me. In fact, my smart band is still paired to it even though I have my sim in the 650 at the moment. At the same time though, I could also just fall into habit and just use my iPhone SE without a second thought. I have done that before.

    Basically, I cycle and have texts all over all of my phones. I use the iPhone SE without thinking but then I "wake up" and I miss having a unique look to my phone so I switch. The Honor 8 is great still, but I do wish it was smaller (mainly shorter) and I have moments when that bothers me so I switch. Whatever Windows Phone I have (the verdict is not out yet for which one is meant to be the main phone) makes me feel like I have what I want together (smaller phone, unique look) but then I itch for not being able to read my books in an app because the app sucks here so I switch.

    Oops that's longer than I intended.

    I installed 14956 on my ICON via wifi on night #1, updated any apps, but then powered it off and tossed it on the shelf because I didn't have any service on it. I'd disco'd it when I got my S7 edge upgrade. I just ASSumed I shouldn't keep the service on the ICON cause of the cost.
    So, yesterday, I figured I'd call VZW, ya know it bein' Black Friday and all - 46 minutes on hold BUT got VZW service on the ICON yesterday with 2 bonus gigs for life on my same account only $20/mo for service.
    Anyway been driving it since yesterday and everything runs smooth as silk. She's sweet - I'll give her that.

    Peace. Alan
    Even when I lose, I win.
    Galaxy S7Edge [MM6.0.1] Full Dresser
    Lumia ICON [Win10M 14965.1001] Sportster
    Nice Alan! That sounds pretty good.
    11-26-2016 04:33 PM
  17. Shamshi-Adad's Avatar
    I would agree with this. Everyone is different.

    At this point in time, I can't imagine not having one of each (I know I sound nuts ). I might be a chronic switcher but I LOVE having the choice. Choosing well for Android has opened my eyes. I really enjoy my Honor 8. It's great that it feels like a middle ground to an extent for me. In fact, my smart band is still paired to it even though I have my sim in the 650 at the moment. At the same time though, I could also just fall into habit and just use my iPhone SE without a second thought. I have done that before.

    Basically, I cycle and have texts all over all of my phones. I use the iPhone SE without thinking but then I "wake up" and I miss having a unique look to my phone so I switch. The Honor 8 is great still, but I do wish it was smaller (mainly shorter) and I have moments when that bothers me so I switch. Whatever Windows Phone I have (the verdict is not out yet for which one is meant to be the main phone) makes me feel like I have what I want together (smaller phone, unique look) but then I itch for not being able to read my books in an app because the app sucks here so I switch.

    Oops that's longer than I intended.


    Nice Alan! That sounds pretty good.
    I have always bought my ebooks from Amazon and Kindle is always one of the first apps I install on a setup. But I gotta say my ONLY way to read is with the Kindle on my iPad. Back before I retired, if a book had such a grip on me that I'd read it on my phone I'd just call in sick. Longest I ever called in sick for a book was 3 days lol. It helps that I'm a champion at sounding sick when I call in

    Peace. Alan
    Even when I lose, I win.
    Galaxy S7Edge [MM6.0.1] Full Dresser
    Lumia ICON [Win10M 14965.1001] Sportster
    11-26-2016 04:56 PM
  18. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    I rarely buy ebooks, but I use Amazon Kindle to read library ebooks that I borrow.
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    11-26-2016 05:04 PM
  19. fatclue_98's Avatar
    I would agree with this. Everyone is different.

    At this point in time, I can't imagine not having one of each (I know I sound nuts ). I might be a chronic switcher but I LOVE having the choice. Choosing well for Android has opened my eyes. I really enjoy my Honor 8. It's great that it feels like a middle ground to an extent for me. In fact, my smart band is still paired to it even though I have my sim in the 650 at the moment. At the same time though, I could also just fall into habit and just use my iPhone SE without a second thought. I have done that before.

    Basically, I cycle and have texts all over all of my phones. I use the iPhone SE without thinking but then I "wake up" and I miss having a unique look to my phone so I switch. The Honor 8 is great still, but I do wish it was smaller (mainly shorter) and I have moments when that bothers me so I switch. Whatever Windows Phone I have (the verdict is not out yet for which one is meant to be the main phone) makes me feel like I have what I want together (smaller phone, unique look) but then I itch for not being able to read my books in an app because the app sucks here so I switch.

    Oops that's longer than I intended.


    Nice Alan! That sounds pretty good.
    I'm a chronic switcher myself and message backup is one of those features that WM has had nailed for some time now. I wish I could use iOS on a regular basis but their jailhouse rules aren't conducive to productivity. A quick example is not having Miracast available. Continuum still needs work to be an everyday tool (overheats CPUs) so a quick connection via HDMI is enough for a quickie doc presentation. I can get that from a $30 L640!!!

    I'm trying really hard to let go of my Passport but........
    11-26-2016 05:30 PM
  20. Shamshi-Adad's Avatar
    I rarely buy ebooks, but I use Amazon Kindle to read library ebooks that I borrow.
    My hardback library just got out of control. I found myself continuing to buy them just for "pride-of-ownership". And MAN loaning one out was absolutely painful knowing that the odds of getting it back was 50% at best. So I fought it but I think it was just a couple years after the Kindle came out and the apps soon followed - I switched over. But ya know if a book is positively dear to my soul I'll get the hardback AND the ebook
    Also I find the iPad just as comfortable in my lap, in the La-Z-Boy as the physical book itself. I've got to have a few hundred ebooks now. And THEN theres the Gutenberg Library totally free!!!

    Peace. Alan
    Even when I lose, I win.
    Galaxy S7Edge [MM6.0.1] Full Dresser
    Lumia ICON [Win10M 14965.1001] Sportster
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    11-26-2016 05:41 PM
  21. Shamshi-Adad's Avatar
    I'm a chronic switcher myself and message backup is one of those features that WM has had nailed for some time now. I wish I could use iOS on a regular basis but their jailhouse rules aren't conducive to productivity. A quick example is not having Miracast available. Continuum still needs work to be an everyday tool (overheats CPUs) so a quick connection via HDMI is enough for a quickie doc presentation. I can get that from a $30 L640!!!

    I'm trying really hard to let go of my Passport but........
    I'm on Verizon and if I'm not mistaken with their Messaging+ app you can have texts sms and mms hit all your VZW phones

    Peace. Alan
    Even when I lose, I win.
    Galaxy S7Edge [MM6.0.1] Full Dresser
    Lumia ICON [Win10M 14965.1001] Sportster
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    11-26-2016 05:46 PM
  22. fatclue_98's Avatar
    I'm on Verizon and if I'm not mistaken with their Messaging+ app you can have texts sms and mms hit all your VZW phones

    Peace. Alan
    Even when I lose, I win.
    Galaxy S7Edge [MM6.0.1] Full Dresser
    Lumia ICON [Win10M 14965.1001] Sportster

    I believe that's correct Alan but I'm on T-Mobile, where cellular users go to die.
    11-26-2016 06:13 PM
  23. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    My hardback library just got out of control. I found myself continuing to buy them just for "pride-of-ownership". And MAN loaning one out was absolutely painful knowing that the odds of getting it back was 50% at best. So I fought it but I think it was just a couple years after the Kindle came out and the apps soon followed - I switched over. But ya know if a book is positively dear to my soul I'll get the hardback AND the ebook
    Also I find the iPad just as comfortable in my lap, in the La-Z-Boy as the physical book itself. I've got to have a few hundred ebooks now. And THEN theres the Gutenberg Library totally free!!!

    Peace. Alan
    Even when I lose, I win.
    Galaxy S7Edge [MM6.0.1] Full Dresser
    Lumia ICON [Win10M 14965.1001] Sportster
    I just never bought many books even physical books, since I have always gone to the library and even worked at a library as my first job when I was 16. However, don't even about my vinyl and CDs; I have loads of those.
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    11-26-2016 06:13 PM
  24. fatclue_98's Avatar
    However, don't even about my vinyl and CDs; I have loads of those.
    Uh oh Laura, child of the 60s representin'
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    11-26-2016 06:24 PM
  25. Shamshi-Adad's Avatar
    I just never bought many books even physical books, since I have always gone to the library and even worked at a library as my first job when I was 16. However, don't even about my vinyl and CDs; I have loads of those.
    Boxes and Boxes of vinyl and about 400 cds. Nothing but mp3&4s now. I know I won't live long enough to see it but one day these info libraries of books and music and/or wifi will be built into our bodies. Then we can all do 'small houses'.

    Peace. Alan
    Even when I lose, I win.
    Galaxy S7Edge [MM6.0.1] Full Dresser
    Lumia ICON [Win10M 14965.1001] Sportster
    11-26-2016 06:54 PM
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