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  1. PerfectReign's Avatar
    Is it too much to ask? I just want a IP67-certified device with a 6" AMOLED screen, live tiles, USB-C, NFC, removable 3600 or greater battery, SD card slot, dual-sim, dual rear facing cameras, front-facing stereo speakers, rear fingerprint reader, Continuum, and live tiles with force-gestures.

    That's all!
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    06-27-2017 03:05 PM
  2. Keeptechcoolandsimple's Avatar
    I am also curious what Samsung has to offer. In fact due to the global battery issue, the Samsung has to increase the build quality of all products like crazy and sell it for a cheaper cost than the iphone and other competitors to keep its customers in the galaxy line up. I think they are going to lose a lot of money from their next line up however it is what has to be done to get customers trust back.

    I am excited for the upcoming surface phone, but I don't want to hold my breath. I think this is Microsoft's last chance in the mobile division. If the Surface Phone fails, I honestly think they will completely get rid of their phone division by 2019-2020.
    an interesting observation. Samsung's note 7 battery fiasco should have soured people on samsung, but it hardly put a dent in consumers mindshare it seems. if the s8 is any indication, samsung seems to be selling better than ever. i know several ppl who had to return note 7 begrudgingly, claimed it was the best device they ever used and look forward to the note 8.

    on the other hand, people seem more skeptical about microsoft's chances even with the surface phone - and based on the rumors, the surface phone id supposed to be almost revolutionary.

    so apparently, Microsoft's lack of support for it's mobile line did more damage in consumers mind than potentially fatal exploding batteries.
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    06-27-2017 03:29 PM
  3. mayorbrown's Avatar
    After 7 years (starting with the Samsung Focus), I have officially left Windows Mobile. This was initially prompted by work - my IT director told me that my company was turning off the server needed to deliver work email to my Windows phone (we have a BYOD program).

    I was strongly encouraged by the company to get an iPhone, and after 2 days, I am really enjoying the experience. Microsoft prides itself (or at least used to) on making productivity software, but I've experienced a quantum leap in my productivity on the iPhone. From a work-related perspective, there is not much difference. Both platforms handle email and calendaring reasonably well, but I do miss the glance screen.

    The biggest benefit is in my personal productivity. I am no longer handicapped by the lack of apps or having to access a website that is essentially unusable on a phone screen. I can pay bills (Chase), watch tv (Comcast), check the tournament schedule for my kids' games (Tourney Engine and Team Snap), make calls from my home phone (Ooma),and have versions of Waze and Uber that actually work.

    As a former Microsoft employee, I really wanted Windows Mobile to work but the app gap is just too large. I enjoyed my time with the platform, but after 2 days, I can't say that I miss it.
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    06-27-2017 04:36 PM
  4. PerfectReign's Avatar
    i know several ppl who had to return note 7 begrudgingly, claimed it was the best device they ever used and look forward to the note 8.
    Except for the idiotic use of glass on the back of the phone, it was a great device. My son had one, turned it in, got a S7, then returned that for a LG v20.
    06-27-2017 05:35 PM
  5. nikholaspappas's Avatar
    I had my eye on the OP5 and really got my hopes up for it but the camera reviews stopped me in my tracks and changed my mind
    I will still have my 950. But from what I have seen the camera is good. And OnePlus has a good track record with updates. So I am on that hope fence thinking maybe the camera will get better with time
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    06-27-2017 05:42 PM
  6. dov1978's Avatar
    I will still have my 950. But from what I have seen the camera is good. And OnePlus has a good track record with updates. So I am on that hope fence thinking maybe the camera will get better with time
    Yeah, I read on Android Central either last night or this morning that they've already updated the OP5 and Camera Updates were definitely induced
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    06-27-2017 05:55 PM
  7. Nate W's Avatar
    I had my eye on the OP5 and really got my hopes up for it but the camera reviews stopped me in my tracks and changed my mind
    Ya. Decent camera but not stellar. I saw the reviews too.
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    06-27-2017 06:13 PM
  8. libra89's Avatar
    In an interesting twist, apparently my ebook reader app (OverDrive) has a new app called Libby that works well on Windows 10 Mobile. If that works out, that could possibly have me return to Windows 10 Mobile. For me, that is my biggest workaround. Using edge to read e-books was such a drain. I'm also looking into trying Deezer as well possibly. I'll have to dig to see what they have in their catalog (Groove is lacking for me, sorry to say). I like Spotify but the app is annoying at least half of the time. I can't ride with Spoticast, it's not as seamless in my experience trying it.

    Not making any promises but we will see. I'll edit again with updates...
    Last edited by libra89; 06-28-2017 at 09:50 AM.
    06-28-2017 09:31 AM
  9. camaroz1985's Avatar
    Is it too much to ask? I just want a IP67-certified device with a 6" AMOLED screen, live tiles, USB-C, NFC, removable 3600 or greater battery, SD card slot, dual-sim, dual rear facing cameras, front-facing stereo speakers, rear fingerprint reader, Continuum, and live tiles with force-gestures.

    That's all!
    Probably haha.

    IP67 and removable battery are definitely at odds with each other. You want as few openings as possible and having the battery accessible would be a huge challenge.
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    06-28-2017 10:49 AM
  10. fatclue_98's Avatar
    She loves me, she loves me not.

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    06-28-2017 02:49 PM
  11. camaroz1985's Avatar
    Don't do it!!
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    06-28-2017 03:34 PM
  12. Kevin Rush's Avatar
    Support what you like or be part of the problem.
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    06-28-2017 03:44 PM
  13. Kevin Rush's Avatar
    In an interesting twist, apparently my ebook reader app (OverDrive) has a new app called Libby that works well on Windows 10 Mobile. If that works out, that could possibly have me return to Windows 10 Mobile. For me, that is my biggest workaround. Using edge to read e-books was such a drain. I'm also looking into trying Deezer as well possibly. I'll have to dig to see what they have in their catalog (Groove is lacking for me, sorry to say). I like Spotify but the app is annoying at least half of the time. I can't ride with Spoticast, it's not as seamless in my experience trying it.

    Not making any promises but we will see. I'll edit again with updates...
    I'm a long time user of the OverDrive app for audio books on Windows phone and now Windows 10 Mobile. There is another Windows phone app called Libby that reads Audio books from Librevox. I wonder what OverDrive is thinking using the same name? Thank you for informing me of the new app from OverDrive on Windows 10 mobile. I'll give it a try on my Lumia 950xl.
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    I keep using the phone I like, the 950xl. I'm not part of the problem.
    Best Wishes
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    06-28-2017 04:02 PM
  14. libra89's Avatar
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    Ooh do it, you know that you want to. The battery life will thank you.

    I'm a long time user of the OverDrive app for audio books on Windows phone and now Windows 10 Mobile. There is another Windows phone app called Libby that reads Audio books from Librevox. I wonder what OverDrive is thinking using the same name? Thank you for informing me of the new app from OverDrive on Windows 10 mobile. I'll give it a try on my Lumia 950xl.
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    I keep using the phone I like, the 950xl. I'm not part of the problem.
    Best Wishes
    Let me know how that goes. I learned this information from the Windows Phone Reddit actually. People in the thread have said that it works well. Reading is one of the biggest things I do on my phone so that is very important to me.

    Edit: For any lurkers, it's called Libby by OverDrive. It also comes up when you search "OverDrive" in the store too.
    Last edited by libra89; 06-28-2017 at 08:43 PM.
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    06-28-2017 04:11 PM
  15. PerfectReign's Avatar
    Probably haha.

    IP67 and removable battery are definitely at odds with each other. You want as few openings as possible and having the battery accessible would be a huge challenge.
    It was a rhetorical question after all.
    06-28-2017 04:14 PM
  16. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Support what you like or be part of the problem.
    Yeah but you're supposed to like what you support.

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    06-28-2017 04:23 PM
  17. PerfectReign's Avatar
    I still like the idea of plugging my "phone" into a monitor, keyboard, mouse, and Ethernet. Now - how can I get dual monitor support?
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    06-28-2017 05:48 PM
  18. libra89's Avatar
    Thumbs up for Libby by OverDrive, thumbs down for Deezer. I think I'm good with buggy Spotify. I just want to see what's in the catalog and I can't even do that without entering a payment method. Welp. The idea was nice while it lasted in my head.

    This is cool.

    06-28-2017 09:11 PM
  19. sd4f's Avatar
    OK, after having used a L950 for a few weeks, it's over for me. As soon as I can get a decent SD835 android phone, I will.

    Coming from a L920, to the L950, all I can say is, W10M is just way too buggy, it's as bad as my experience with android back on gingerbread, which made me go to WP in the first place. I'm on the latest production builds (creators Update), and things just don't work like they should, nothing like WP8.1. Battery life is woeful, I lost 50% of my battery in 4 hours. I just can't see this phone lasting me when I'm out and about for a whole day.

    With no new features planned, I think it's quite safe to say that it's over, and given the strategy, I just think that any attempt by MS in the future is dead on arrival as well.

    I like the phone otherwise, and the OS does present well, but yea, WP8.1 kind of hit the zenith of the platform. W10M was a disastrous experiment.
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    06-28-2017 10:46 PM
  20. camaroz1985's Avatar
    Thumbs up for Libby by OverDrive, thumbs down for Deezer. I think I'm good with buggy Spotify. I just want to see what's in the catalog and I can't even do that without entering a payment method. Welp. The idea was nice while it lasted in my head.

    This is cool.

    http://i.imgur.com/ARSOL9S.jpg
    Don't use my phone too much for reading, but might have to give this a shot. Always good to support those who support W10/W10M.

    I was ok with Spotify as well, but I have not used Groove really, just listened to music I already have on OneDrive with it. We can only hope that eventually Spotify will create a UWP/UWA. Having the app in the store in any way is at least a good step, no doubt Windows 10 S forced their hand on this.
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    06-29-2017 10:33 AM
  21. libra89's Avatar
    Don't use my phone too much for reading, but might have to give this a shot. Always good to support those who support W10/W10M.

    I was ok with Spotify as well, but I have not used Groove really, just listened to music I already have on OneDrive with it. We can only hope that eventually Spotify will create a UWP/UWA. Having the app in the store in any way is at least a good step, no doubt Windows 10 S forced their hand on this.
    It's pretty cool. It's an app that connects with your local library for ebooks and audiobooks.

    I agree with you about Spotify as well. Groove is nice but I find that it lacks a lot of the "old music" I like to listen to. Too many holes to be paying the same amount when I can have it all lol.

    Edit: I found a workaround to get into Deezer without payment info. Just click the link to unsubscribe from the mailing list and you're in. Deezer seems to be better than Groove, when it comes to what I want to listen to. It has way less holes. I just need to figure out Libby.
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    06-29-2017 10:41 AM
  22. libra89's Avatar
    I have been resisting updating to iOS 10 on my SE because iOS 10 dropped the ball on battery life when I first tried it. Now that Day One Journal is free for a short time, I'm thinking of trying it again but I can't seem to find any videos or even posts, aside from a few on Reddit.

    I would hate to upgrade and regret it but I would love to have that app.
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    06-29-2017 11:03 PM
  23. camaroz1985's Avatar
    I think battery life is fine on the SE on 10. I have no experience with it on 9 though, so take that with a grain of salt. I use bluetooth all day, and use it for checking rss feed updates, emails, etc. and generally after 10 hours off the charger I am looking at 60% battery left or so.
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    06-30-2017 09:41 AM
  24. libra89's Avatar
    I think battery life is fine on the SE on 10. I have no experience with it on 9 though, so take that with a grain of salt. I use bluetooth all day, and use it for checking rss feed updates, emails, etc. and generally after 10 hours off the charger I am looking at 60% battery left or so.
    Nice! Apple wasn't letting me log in yesterday with the other SE so I was terrified to try it. I might cave sometime because I don't know if I want to be two updates behind when iOS 11 drops.
    06-30-2017 09:53 AM
  25. camaroz1985's Avatar
    Yeah don't think I would want to be two updates behind, but I generally update ASAP anyway, so maybe I'm not the right role model for you haha.
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    06-30-2017 12:00 PM
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