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  1. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Sumbitch this x3 vs. DTEK60 thing is not going as planned. I would've normally made a decision by now but I guess when comparing flagships from different manufacturers and different OSes this is to be expected.

    Sent from my Elite x3 on mTalk
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    07-02-2017 09:37 PM
  2. libra89's Avatar
    Sumbitch this x3 vs. DTEK60 thing is not going as planned. I would've normally made a decision by now but I guess when comparing flagships from different manufacturers and different OSes this is to be expected.

    Sent from my Elite x3 on mTalk
    Hmm what has made this challenging? Please elaborate...
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    07-02-2017 10:00 PM
  3. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Hmm what has made this challenging? Please elaborate...
    I've never given fingerprint scanners a second thought until about a month ago. My princess and her autism have discovered that erasing emails, contacts and so forth are fun and challenging. Until this "phase" goes away like all the previous ones, security is paramount. Today she wiped her grandfather's iPhone but he deserved it, we've only been telling him to set up a password for a few weeks. Anyhoo, the x3, and any Windows phone for that matter, is on the slow side to unlock. The BlackBerry is lickety split. It's also more manageable due to its footprint and is easier to make and answer phone calls. The x3 has Outlook, 'nuff said.

    Edge has really stepped its game up since CU. Rendering pages is no longer an exercise in patience and printing is very much improved especially if you have an HP printer.

    Camera performance is very close that you have to call a tie. The larger display on the x3 makes a not so subtle difference but the DTEK's speakers blow the HP out of the water.

    Notice I haven't mentioned apps. I'm having a hard time just balancing core functions and hardware nuances. This may go into extra innings and there's no one warming up in the bullpen.

    Sent from my Elite x3 on mTalk
    07-02-2017 10:34 PM
  4. libra89's Avatar
    I've never given fingerprint scanners a second thought until about a month ago. My princess and her autism have discovered that erasing emails, contacts and so forth are fun and challenging. Until this "phase" goes away like all the previous ones, security is paramount. Today she wiped her grandfather's iPhone but he deserved it, we've only been telling him to set up a password for a few weeks. Anyhoo, the x3, and any Windows phone for that matter, is on the slow side to unlock. The BlackBerry is lickety split. It's also more manageable due to its footprint and is easier to make and answer phone calls. The x3 has Outlook, 'nuff said.

    Edge has really stepped its game up since CU. Rendering pages is no longer an exercise in patience and printing is very much improved especially if you have an HP printer.

    Camera performance is very close that you have to call a tie. The larger display on the x3 makes a not so subtle difference but the DTEK's speakers blow the HP out of the water.

    Notice I haven't mentioned apps. I'm having a hard time just balancing core functions and hardware nuances. This may go into extra innings and there's no one warming up in the bullpen.

    Sent from my Elite x3 on mTalk
    Wow, I see. She sounds like a smart girl so I get the importance. Hmm that is going to be hard, I can get why you feel this way. Slower scanner sounds like a solid compromise but calls and sound are also really important too.

    I wish you good luck with this hard decision.
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    07-02-2017 10:58 PM
  5. fatclue_98's Avatar
    She sounds like a smart girl
    Too damned smart. She got the techie gene from dad and mom's persistence.
    07-02-2017 11:04 PM
  6. nate0's Avatar
    @libra89
    Looks like Sammy is aiming to bring an S8 mini. 5.3" screen. Think you'll be interested?
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    07-03-2017 08:50 AM
  7. nate0's Avatar
    I've never given fingerprint scanners a second thought until about a month ago. My princess and her autism have discovered that erasing emails, contacts and so forth are fun and challenging. Until this "phase" goes away like all the previous ones, security is paramount. Today she wiped her grandfather's iPhone but he deserved it, we've only been telling him to set up a password for a few weeks. Anyhoo, the x3, and any Windows phone for that matter, is on the slow side to unlock. The BlackBerry is lickety split. It's also more manageable due to its footprint and is easier to make and answer phone calls. The x3 has Outlook, 'nuff said.

    Edge has really stepped its game up since CU. Rendering pages is no longer an exercise in patience and printing is very much improved especially if you have an HP printer.

    Camera performance is very close that you have to call a tie. The larger display on the x3 makes a not so subtle difference but the DTEK's speakers blow the HP out of the water.

    Notice I haven't mentioned apps. I'm having a hard time just balancing core functions and hardware nuances. This may go into extra innings and there's no one warming up in the bullpen.

    Sent from my Elite x3 on mTalk
    Do you know if W10 fp scanners are any quicker? Either the keyboard integrated ones or the power button? Is it W10M only...?

    I'm going to try to look for a reg edit to remove the hello face and wink splash personally...

    What about iris? Faster or slower than the finger print scanner?
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    07-03-2017 08:58 AM
  8. libra89's Avatar
    @libra89
    Looks like Sammy is aiming to bring an S8 mini. 5.3" screen. Think you'll be interested?
    That would be interesting. It would depend how tall it is but i'm not sure.
    07-03-2017 09:00 AM
  9. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Do you know if W10 fp scanners are any quicker? Either the keyboard integrated ones or the power button? Is it W10M only...?

    I'm going to try to look for a reg edit to remove the hello face and wink splash personally...

    What about iris? Faster or slower than the finger print scanner?
    I'm guessing it's W10M. As I mentioned in my post, the DTEK60 is extremely quick and it's the same phone as the Idol 4S for all intents and purposes. I believe the display resolution is the only difference between them.

    The iris scanner is definitely slower than the fp and it was no different on my 950 series.
    07-03-2017 09:22 AM
  10. N1cks's Avatar
    yes! I finally can search my calendar again. That was so frustrating on W10M. I live by my calendar at work.
    Another calendar related question on iOs: Siri & Cortana reminders.

    I've set Outlook.com as my default calendar, but neither Siri nor Cortana reminds go into the calendar.

    Is this just how it is?

    P.s. received my iPhone 6s yesterday :).
    07-03-2017 09:16 PM
  11. PerfectReign's Avatar
    I wanted to do a comparison between my Elite X3 and my Iphone for opening mail in Outlook. I've often complained about how slow opening email in Outlook is on Windows Mobile. I did the comparison on the Elite X3 so to ensure the latest mobile chipset was represented on each device.

    I have posted feedback here: https://aka.ms/Ckvlak

    Here's the video:
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    07-04-2017 06:19 PM
  12. TgeekB's Avatar
    I wanted to do a comparison between my Elite X3 and my Iphone for opening mail in Outlook. I've often complained about how slow opening email in Outlook is on Windows Mobile. I did the comparison on the Elite X3 so to ensure the latest mobile chipset was represented on each device.

    I have posted feedback here: https://aka.ms/Ckvlak

    Here's the video:
    I don't think there's any doubt about it. Since I've moved to the iPhone SE, I really notice the speed difference all around. I have kept my Idol 4s to play around with and keep it updated. I put the sim in it a couple weekends ago. It felt like a 5 year old phone. I didn't notice when it was my full time device, but I notice it now.
    07-04-2017 06:38 PM
  13. PerfectReign's Avatar
    The sad part is I like the feel and UI so much better on my 950xl. <sigh>
    07-04-2017 07:37 PM
  14. TgeekB's Avatar
    The sad part is I like the feel and UI so much better on my 950xl.
    Fully understand and agree. The UI on Windows is my favorite, though slow. I've said this before, iPhone is an app launcher. It just does it so damned well.
    07-04-2017 07:52 PM
  15. nate0's Avatar
    The sad part is I like the feel and UI so much better on my 950xl. <sigh>
    It's the price we pay selling out our contentment to the mobile device world
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    07-04-2017 10:52 PM
  16. nate0's Avatar
    I'm not one to talk. I ordered an s6 edge+ for at&t used last week. I hate it but I need enhanced LTE/hd voice from at&t. And I'm tired of hacking the latest w10m phones to get it being at&t has zero windows phones available. I like this model of the galaxy series due to its size and screen type. It's about the size of the idol4s with a 5.7" screen.
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    07-04-2017 10:58 PM
  17. camaroz1985's Avatar
    @libra89
    Looks like Sammy is aiming to bring an S8 mini. 5.3" screen. Think you'll be interested?
    That could be interesting, but I am more interested in an updated iPhone SE. I have given up on Android for the time being.

    The sad part is I like the feel and UI so much better on my 950xl. <sigh>
    I am with you on that, but like TgeekB, I have found that even the "lowly" SE is quicker and smoother with all the day to day stuff.
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    07-05-2017 10:25 AM
  18. nate0's Avatar
    That could be interesting, but I am more interested in an updated iPhone SE. I have given up on Android for the time being.



    I am with you on that, but like TgeekB, I have found that even the "lowly" SE is quicker and smoother with all the day to day stuff.
    I like iphones. But sadly they are not cheap. Plus if you invest in their ecosystem the hole in your pocket book becomes a very deep one. I was recently looking into casting technology and I can cheaply do it for around 40 dollars with W10M. Is there a way to do it on iphones without Apple TV? Or cheaper than 40? Anyway, even Android devices are not easily managed for what I need, but at least they do not try to suck you into their proprietary black hole...The OS is still slick and HW is top notch though ;-)
    07-05-2017 11:24 AM
  19. camaroz1985's Avatar
    Not cheap, but still comparable to high end W10M or Android devices.

    As for casting, yes you can do it cheaply, oddly enough with a Chromecast. The app has to support it, but you will find most of the big ones do.
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    07-05-2017 11:43 AM
  20. nikholaspappas's Avatar
    The OnePlus 5 Actually takes really nice Daytime photos. I will get some other shots and see how it does.
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    07-05-2017 12:09 PM
  21. nate0's Avatar
    Not cheap, but still comparable to high end W10M or Android devices.

    As for casting, yes you can do it cheaply, oddly enough with a Chromecast. The app has to support it, but you will find most of the big ones do.
    I still like continuum better so I bought a screen beam mini2.
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    07-05-2017 03:09 PM
  22. rhapdog's Avatar
    Nice to see you again. 😊 I hope you like your new Honor.

    Please let us know how it works for you. It looks like a nice device.
    It's taken me a few days to start using it to see how it works out.

    I had plans to carry both my Lumia 640 and my new Honor 5X for a while until I could get adjusted. That lasted all of about an hour. Replacing all the apps was easy (duh!) except for MyTube. Finding out you can't edit contacts with Outlook was NOT a good thing. I'm using Outlook as my contacts on the phone, and keep it synced with my laptop. I have to edit things on my laptop, though, and let them show up from there. I can make a new contact, but have to do it through the phone's contacts and not outlook. Outlook will sync it, but not all fields are available. Some of the fields I use I can't set up without the laptop.

    LOVE the fingerprint sensor.

    The only thing I'm still using my 640 for is for the morning alarm clock. I have nowhere to be, but my wife has to be at work at a specified time. The 640 has proven reliable over the years, and I always have to have a few days to test a new phone before I will declare it reliable. That means setting up 2 alarms at once, but I'll wait for the weekend to do that. I may be boxing up my 640 very, very soon. The 5" screen just seems so small after working with a higher resolution 5.5" screen all day.

    OneDrive works great for uploading photos as I take them. MS Office apps are great. However, Groove music stinks on Android. It lacks so many features that I need, mainly being able to locate and play music from the SD card. I don't subscribe to the Groove Music service, and I don't stream my music from OneDrive. That seems to be all Groove is capable of on Android.

    Still have some basic setup that needs to be done, but life has been busy, and it's hard to concentrate while taking care of a family, having two young children at home with me, taking pain meds for my freshly sprained knee, being in pain even with the meds, etc. Yes, I'm a 53 year old man that had a foot race with my 7 year old daughter. I went down and sprained my knee pretty badly. I won't be walking without assistance of a cane and a lot of pain for a while. On the bright side, it gives me slightly more down-time to figure out the phone, if I can forego the pain meds for the concentration power. ;)
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    07-06-2017 08:00 AM
  23. Rinsun's Avatar
    It's taken me a few days to start using it to see how it works out.

    I had plans to carry both my Lumia 640 and my new Honor 5X for a while until I could get adjusted. That lasted all of about an hour. Replacing all the apps was easy (duh!) except for MyTube. Finding out you can't edit contacts with Outlook was NOT a good thing. I'm using Outlook as my contacts on the phone, and keep it synced with my laptop. I have to edit things on my laptop, though, and let them show up from there. I can make a new contact, but have to do it through the phone's contacts and not outlook. Outlook will sync it, but not all fields are available. Some of the fields I use I can't set up without the laptop.

    LOVE the fingerprint sensor.

    The only thing I'm still using my 640 for is for the morning alarm clock. I have nowhere to be, but my wife has to be at work at a specified time. The 640 has proven reliable over the years, and I always have to have a few days to test a new phone before I will declare it reliable. That means setting up 2 alarms at once, but I'll wait for the weekend to do that. I may be boxing up my 640 very, very soon. The 5" screen just seems so small after working with a higher resolution 5.5" screen all day.

    OneDrive works great for uploading photos as I take them. MS Office apps are great. However, Groove music stinks on Android. It lacks so many features that I need, mainly being able to locate and play music from the SD card. I don't subscribe to the Groove Music service, and I don't stream my music from OneDrive. That seems to be all Groove is capable of on Android.

    Still have some basic setup that needs to be done, but life has been busy, and it's hard to concentrate while taking care of a family, having two young children at home with me, taking pain meds for my freshly sprained knee, being in pain even with the meds, etc. Yes, I'm a 53 year old man that had a foot race with my 7 year old daughter. I went down and sprained my knee pretty badly. I won't be walking without assistance of a cane and a lot of pain for a while. On the bright side, it gives me slightly more down-time to figure out the phone, if I can forego the pain meds for the concentration power. ;)
    I hope your pain subsides completely and you get well soon.
    07-06-2017 12:24 PM
  24. IndyJG's Avatar
    Well, I am out. I actually switched over a month ago. Joined Windows Phone back in 2014 with the HTC One M8 and have also owned the 950XL, 550, and Alcatel Idol 4S since then. I've grown increasingly disillusioned with Microsoft's retreat from the consumer market, their discontinuation of a few services I particularly enjoyed, and the state of W10M. I had been debating about switching to Android, but had been holding off until one day in late May when I was taking pictures with my Idol 4S at a very important event for me. Something went wrong, and I permanently lost about 20 or so photos I had taken. They disappeared from the photos app and were not uploaded to OneDrive. That was my final breaking point. Went and bought the new Sony Xperia XZs phone (international variant with working fingerprint sensor). Took a little effort to customize the Xperia to my liking. Still using Microsoft services on Android and the Arrow launcher is awesome. I miss a few things about W10M and still prefer the Windows UI and even a few of the W10M apps, but I wanted something that I didn't feel like I had to battle with or compromise on as 90% or more of my computing time is using my phone as compared to my Surface 3 or desktop. I had the intention of switching back and forth between the Xperia and the Idol, but I have been so satisfied with the Xperia, I have not powered on the Idol 4S once since getting the Xperia. I still like Windows 10 and enjoy using it on the desktop or 2-in-1 and my Xbox, but I doubt I will ever return to Windows on a phone or mobile device as a consumer.
    07-06-2017 01:16 PM
  25. nikholaspappas's Avatar
    So Far I really am liking the OnePlus 5. I was a Day 1 Lumia 920 buyer. Then went to the Icon, followed by the 950(Unlocked Dual Sim).

    I just switched to the OnePlus 5. I needed an Unlocked Dual Sim phone as I frequently travel out of the country for business.

    This phone is FAST. Like Really fast. I use the Finger print reader and literally the phone unlocks and is at my home screen faster than my 950 would even have the screen on. It is instant. Camera is also fast to come up, easy to use and has no noticeable shutter lag.

    I use Groove Music Pass so Groove Music works great for me(I have not figured out how to set it to default yet...). The Outlook Mail Client is good, I just wish it had a dark them like it does on Windows. Onedrive is working well for all my back up needs

    I am also using Cortana and the experience is fast and fluid.

    The one thing missing is Microsoft Movies and TV. But I don't really ever watch shows on my phone so not such a burden for me.

    I have had no issues with the hardware. LTE and Wifi connections are consistent and fast. The screen is beautiful with Dark blacks and good colors. The camera quality is good both front and back.

    The Battery life is better than the last couple phones I have had. I sit at about 30% by the time I get to bed on a normal day. And the Dash Charging, While proprietary, is very fast.

    I would recommend that anyone considering a switch to Android consider this phone.
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    07-06-2017 04:29 PM
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