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    Portrait Mode Sample from OnePlus 5
    libra89 and PerfectReign like this.
    07-06-2017 04:32 PM
  2. L0rdG1gabyt3's Avatar
    So I finally HAD to switch away from WM10. When walking into the phone store, it physically hurt to tell the sales rep that I needed an Android phone. The only thing that prompted me to make the change was that my 950 suddenly would NOT get cellular data, and I require that for my job. I was ok with the random reboots, a battery that would only charge to 50%, and the VERY slow apps, but when the cellular data quit, and ATT tech support could not fix it, I had to make the tough choice. At least I ended up with a nice one. I picked a Samsung Galaxy S8+.
    07-06-2017 05:01 PM
  3. PerfectReign's Avatar
    I picked a Samsung Galaxy S8+.
    I'm sorry for your loss. (I still miss the Note 7.)
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    07-07-2017 12:25 AM
  4. garak0410's Avatar
    I like iphones. But sadly they are not cheap. Plus if you invest in their ecosystem the hole in your pocket book becomes a very deep one. I was recently looking into casting technology and I can cheaply do it for around 40 dollars with W10M. Is there a way to do it on iphones without Apple TV? Or cheaper than 40? Anyway, even Android devices are not easily managed for what I need, but at least they do not try to suck you into their proprietary black hole...The OS is still slick and HW is top notch though ;-)
    True...it isn't cheap and if you stay in the ecosystem, it isn't cheap to upgrade either. For a lot of people, I am recommending the good, mid-range Motorola's since they are pretty good for mid-range and no contract or payment plan either.
    nate0 likes this.
    07-07-2017 09:08 AM
  5. Kot Prada's Avatar
    And lets face it, on the 950 the battery life has never been good
    Mine 950 XL works 2 days of full using. I think, it's not bad. Don't know what I have "to face" here.
    07-09-2017 07:06 AM
  6. Kot Prada's Avatar
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    Portrait Mode Sample from OnePlus 5
    TBH, after 950 XL... just, no comments :)
    07-09-2017 07:14 AM
  7. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Busy week as usual but it gave me time to properly assess the Pixel XL. With the right tweaks I'm able to crown it as the new daily driver. Sold the x3 but not because of any issues. It's without any doubt the best Windows phone I've used to date. If and when the platform makes the changes I need there will be no discussion which handset I get.

    About the Pixel, very good camera. It can hang with a 950 all day. The footprint is what makes the difference between this and the Galaxy S8+. The battery life isn't on par with the x3 but not many phones are. It gets me through my long and busy days with plenty of juice to spare and that's all I ever ask from a phone. My PIM functions have been BlackBerry-fied so all my accounts and contacts are up and running with no drama which is what I like. The rest is just gravy and I'll get to it eventually.
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    07-09-2017 05:34 PM
  8. libra89's Avatar
    Mine 950 XL works 2 days of full using. I think, it's not bad. Don't know what I have "to face" here.
    The 950 XL has better battery life over the smaller one so your statement isn't really applicable. Getting 2 days out of the smaller one needs a battery pack or that idea lives in your (general you) dreams...
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    07-09-2017 07:37 PM
  9. libra89's Avatar
    Busy week as usual but it gave me time to properly assess the Pixel XL. With the right tweaks I'm able to crown it as the new daily driver. Sold the x3 but not because of any issues. It's without any doubt the best Windows phone I've used to date. If and when the platform makes the changes I need there will be no discussion which handset I get.

    About the Pixel, very good camera. It can hang with a 950 all day. The footprint is what makes the difference between this and the Galaxy S8+. The battery life isn't on par with the x3 but not many phones are. It gets me through my long and busy days with plenty of juice to spare and that's all I ever ask from a phone. My PIM functions have been BlackBerry-fied so all my accounts and contacts are up and running with no drama which is what I like. The rest is just gravy and I'll get to it eventually.
    Nice! I'm glad to hear it. How does it feel to have T-Mobile features and that radio?

    Your post kind of makes me miss the Pixel haha.
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    07-09-2017 07:39 PM
  10. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Nice! I'm glad to hear it. How does it feel to have T-Mobile features and that radio?

    Your post kind of makes me miss the Pixel haha.
    Very good reception actually. I have VoLTE but I don't think it has WiFi calling. At least I haven't looked for it since it's never been a necessity for me.
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    07-09-2017 07:53 PM
  11. Moses D's Avatar
    So i finally did the switch, after having so many WP-WM i just couldn't take it anymore.
    Too many bugs and with the basic apps missing like eBay, Paypal etc i just gave up.
    So i went out and bought a S8+, removed all the Samsung and google junk as much as possible all the way to the apps i cant remove and then installed all the Microsoft apps on it.
    Works like a charm! not a bad phone actually, never liked Android or iOS but i can get used to Android than iOS.
    Anyway i still love the windows Mobile platform it was such a good OS, i just wish Microsoft invested a little more time and caring in it. Im still planning on getting this Surface Phone if it does exist or does come out eventually :)
    Last edited by Guytronic; 07-19-2017 at 02:54 AM.
    07-09-2017 08:27 PM
  12. libra89's Avatar
    Very good reception actually. I have VoLTE but I don't think it has WiFi calling. At least I haven't looked for it since it's never been a necessity for me.
    Sweet!

    It has it, it just has to be toggled.
    07-09-2017 09:18 PM
  13. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Sweet!

    It has it, it just has to be toggled.
    Doh! Homer Simpson moment.
    07-09-2017 09:23 PM
  14. nate0's Avatar
    So i finally did the switch, after having so many WP-WM i just couldn't take it anymore.
    Too many bugs and with the basic apps missing like eBay, Paypal etc i just gave up.
    So i went out and bought a S8+, removed all the Samsung and google junk as much as possible all the way to the apps i cant remove and then installed all the Microsoft apps on it.
    Works like a charm! not a bad phone actually, never liked Android or iOS but i can get used to Android than iOS.
    Anyway i still love the windows Mobile platform it was such a good OS, i just wish Microsoft invested a little more time and caring in it. Im still planning on getting this Surface Phone if it does exist or does come out eventually :)
    I non-purposely ended up with an s8+ too for at&t..(bit of a long/short story). I am not sure what to do with Microsoft. Maybe while holding on to the s8+ a beacon of light will shoot down to us this "surface mobile" device, and I can switch back. It is such a pain getting everything the way it is needed on android, like 12-24 hrs of pain...
    However I do not see this phone's foot print as over powering thus far to me. The 950 xl had more width which causes one handed use issues for me. HP has even more...Even with a case on the s8+ it is not too bad for me. The height is a bit of an issue though, but not the worst for me. The screen is incredible on it. The camera snaps fast, but I am not camera buff...I like that it allows the popular features for the camera and even if it is not near the op/pixel/Huawei devices it fits the bill. Battery seems right up there to the ratings I have read about. BTW there is a package disabler for Samsung devices that you can look up called BK Disabler. It has worked wonders for my with Samsung phones.
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    07-10-2017 12:18 AM
  15. Kot Prada's Avatar
    The 950 XL has better battery life over the smaller one so your statement isn't really applicable. Getting 2 days out of the smaller one needs a battery pack or that idea lives in your (general you) dreams...
    Yes, You're right... somehow I thought he's talking about 950 XL.
    libra89 likes this.
    07-10-2017 06:47 AM
  16. nikholaspappas's Avatar
    Mine 950 XL works 2 days of full using. I think, it's not bad. Don't know what I have "to face" here.
    A 950 is not the same as a 950 XL. The XL has always had better battery life So you don't have to face anything as we are talking about 2 different phones with different processors, screens, sizes and batteries. But thanks anyway
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    07-10-2017 12:52 PM
  17. Kot Prada's Avatar
    A 950 is not the same as a 950 XL. The XL has always had better battery life So you don't have to face anything as we are talking about 2 different phones with different processors, screens, sizes and batteries. But thanks anyway
    libra89 already said the same. My mistake.
    07-10-2017 04:50 PM
  18. Sheamartin's Avatar


    I thought I could suck it up, but seeing things like CShell slowly starting to make it’s presence, and Microsoft’s absolute lack of a roadmap for mobile. I WANT Windows 10 Mobile. I want to KEEP loving it as much as I’ve loved it since my HTC Arrive and Windows Phone 7 back in 2010. But I can’t keep supporting a platform that seemingly has no direction (see the newest Fast Ring build…and for the most part, subsequent builds and even the Creators Update). With no hope of any kind of hardware until 2018, and Microsoft being tight-lipped as to their desired endstate with Mobile, I’m out. I’m done.


    Like you Overboard, I have been hanging on making excuses for lack of updates for my MS Band, Rumors of new phones etc. Once I started to look at android again, I realized I could root the phone and change my Icons, I would have access to the latest in Smart/Fitness watches, my remote garage door app and bank app would work again, I could use a phone wallet. I'm sure there are things I will miss about my whole WP experience. But without anything to go on, I just feel like I should get back into the 21st century of technology with another platform. My concern is I have to configure whatever I do so my mother can use it. I'm sure I'll wait until my poor little Icon dies. I'll just enjoy what time we have left.
    07-10-2017 04:59 PM
  19. dov1978's Avatar
    I non-purposely ended up with an s8+ too for at&t..(bit of a long/short story). I am not sure what to do with Microsoft. Maybe while holding on to the s8+ a beacon of light will shoot down to us this "surface mobile" device, and I can switch back. It is such a pain getting everything the way it is needed on android, like 12-24 hrs of pain...
    However I do not see this phone's foot print as over powering thus far to me. The 950 xl had more width which causes one handed use issues for me. HP has even more...Even with a case on the s8+ it is not too bad for me. The height is a bit of an issue though, but not the worst for me. The screen is incredible on it. The camera snaps fast, but I am not camera buff...I like that it allows the popular features for the camera and even if it is not near the op/pixel/Huawei devices it fits the bill. Battery seems right up there to the ratings I have read about. BTW there is a package disabler for Samsung devices that you can look up called BK Disabler. It has worked wonders for my with Samsung phones.
    I love one handed mode on my 950xl. Even iPhone uses the same idea but with a double tap on the home button instead of long press. I had the Galaxy s8 Plus like yourself when it 1st launched but I've just picked up a regular sized s8 and it's much more manageable in one hand than the Plus was (not that the Plus was unwieldy). I just found getting to the FPS on the back a real pain or getting to the upper left corner awkward. I still use one handed mode on my S8 regularly though but it's not as nice for me personally than the 950xl was. You either double tap the home button or swipe up from the bottom corners to shrink the screen to a smaller version of itself. It works fine but just not as natural I feel. I also miss my dedicated camera button so badly
    07-11-2017 01:28 AM
  20. nate0's Avatar
    I love one handed mode on my 950xl. Even iPhone uses the same idea but with a double tap on the home button instead of long press. I had the Galaxy s8 Plus like yourself when it 1st launched but I've just picked up a regular sized s8 and it's much more manageable in one hand than the Plus was (not that the Plus was unwieldy). I just found getting to the FPS on the back a real pain or getting to the upper left corner awkward. I still use one handed mode on my S8 regularly though but it's not as nice for me personally than the 950xl was. You either double tap the home button or swipe up from the bottom corners to shrink the screen to a smaller version of itself. It works fine but just not as natural I feel. I also miss my dedicated camera button so badly
    Yes, it is not natural the way Samung does it. Who even heard of triple tap??? Be nice if they have the option to long press along with triple tap.

    I noticed that other things though also seem similar to what W10M offers but in the Samsung way of app useability and experience. Nice to see the OS/Tech giants feeding off each other in their own ways. Bixby is one obviously, but I wont go there on that, even though a day late and maybe a dollar short they have enough girth to get bixby off the ground...unfortunately :)
    One thing is how the settings panel is one column of settings that scrolls up and down, they recently changed that right around the s7 time frame I think. APP and text scaling is a similar setting to W10M but has been around a while I guess. Color management is a great feature Samsung incorporated for their displays this time around. It has kinda been there before but they took it to another level this time around...This pays dividends for users. I really like that kind of control. There are a couple of other areas where you can just tell that these giants are on the right track with their users. Dex may not catch on quick like continuum has, where not everyone who buys an s8 uses it. Still a chip off the block though and its funny that Samsung waited till now to impliment USB C. Wonder if they would have done USB C still even if Dex never hit the scene...who knows. They had to really add in code and hw stability to do the desktop experience mode which is commitment. I personally have not used it, but that is a lot of investment and proves there is another alley to usability people need from their devices day to day...Landscape mode with keyboard usage is so much more natural on W10M then android in my opinion. I dislike all Android Keyboards honestly. I prefer the w10m virtual keyboard all day long. Even the swiftkey app is not the same...but I am biased towards W10M anyway so don't take my word on that.
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    07-11-2017 01:59 AM
  21. Kot Prada's Avatar
    Like you Overboard, I have been hanging on making excuses for lack of updates for my MS Band, Rumors of new phones etc. Once I started to look at android again, I realized I could root the phone and change my Icons, I would have access to the latest in Smart/Fitness watches, my remote garage door app and bank app would work again, I could use a phone wallet. I'm sure there are things I will miss about my whole WP experience. But without anything to go on, I just feel like I should get back into the 21st century of technology with another platform. My concern is I have to configure whatever I do so my mother can use it. I'm sure I'll wait until my poor little Icon dies. I'll just enjoy what time we have left.
    Someone uses Smartwatches and fitness bracelets?
    07-12-2017 08:58 AM
  22. John Christopoulos's Avatar
    Like you Overboard, I have been hanging on making excuses for lack of updates for my MS Band, Rumors of new phones etc. Once I started to look at android again, I realized I could root the phone and change my Icons, I would have access to the latest in Smart/Fitness watches, my remote garage door app and bank app would work again, I could use a phone wallet. I'm sure there are things I will miss about my whole WP experience. But without anything to go on, I just feel like I should get back into the 21st century of technology with another platform. My concern is I have to configure whatever I do so my mother can use it. I'm sure I'll wait until my poor little Icon dies. I'll just enjoy what time we have left.
    Like you also, I have decided to keep my Lumia 1020, so happy with it and Windows mobile on release preview. Since Windows Phone 8.1 is future less, I think windows 10 mobile is the best way to use my hardware. A little slower, sluggish, buggy...
    But I love my phone even if I cannot have an app for my running watch, or my daughter's cheep toy that even had an app for iOS and Android but not for WP. I will be looking for a Nokia phone with a huge camera sensor close to the quality of my 1020
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    07-19-2017 09:57 AM
  23. RumoredNow's Avatar
    I will be looking for a Nokia phone with a huge camera sensor close to the quality of my 1020
    They are partnering with Zeiss again.

    Nokia 808 Pureview > Nokia Lumia 1020 > Nokia ???

    If the pattern holds true they may try it again and have 41MP on Symbian, Windows Phone and (?coming soon?) Android.

    I have a 1020 for use just as a camera and have never used it as a phone actually. It's a newer acquisition. I had a 1520 as a phone, decided to dedicate that for camera and picked up a 1020 as well. For obvious reasons the 1020 won and I passed the 1520 along. For less obvious reasons I could afford to pass the 1520 along, namely processing and shot to shot times. I don't really take action shots. My preferences are composed shots and especially sunrise/sunset, landscapes and landmarks with a strong interest in artistic composition to highlight more mundane objects. Not much for portraits and the like.

    Having had my 1520 on both 8.1 and W10M, I couldn't see a need to ever put the 1020 on W10M. Your camera experience must have seemed glacial in terms of speed at times.

    Is there any camera advantage I might be overlooking with W10M? Or did you go there just to stay current for phone and app use?

    BTW, you may want to look in here. https://forums.windowscentral.com/ge...-eight3oh.html I do wish some others would join in and share their experiences.
    07-19-2017 11:35 AM
  24. nate0's Avatar
    They are partnering with Zeiss again.

    Nokia 808 Pureview > Nokia Lumia 1020 > Nokia ???

    If the pattern holds true they may try it again and have 41MP on Symbian, Windows Phone and (?coming soon?) Android.
    The Android with Zeiss is already confirmed. Dual sensors 13mp
    07-19-2017 09:16 PM
  25. nate0's Avatar
    @RumoredNow
    Why would that pattern hold true on the largely camera-centric mobile device? Now on their Android kick, when do you suspect that might happen?
    07-19-2017 09:48 PM
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