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  1. Scienceguy Labs's Avatar
    I made the switch around two years ago, but kept my Windows Phones just to have in case I wanted to try out the OS again. It was interesting to have both Android and WP devices all this time because I had a direct comparison of one OS improving exponentially and another doing pretty much just the opposite. I think you can probably go all the way back to WP7 and Google's decision not to support the Windows Phone ecosystem as the nail in the coffin, even though Microsoft gave a somewhat valiant effort for a time.
    09-27-2017 06:42 AM
  2. camaroz1985's Avatar
    Ugh yeah so true. Sony phones have had mixed results for point and shoot photos and that always annoyed me. I saw a picture from it and it seems like Sony might have improved the camera.

    Even though I am doing this experiment, the Pixel has been okay for battery life (it's only been one full day, on day 2 now). So far, no random reboots (upgrading to Oreo did this for a good number of Pixels). Hopefully I didn't jinx myself. I really hope so.

    Edit: So GSMArena has finally dropped a review for the XZ1 Compact. The battery life is amazing, superior auto mode has improved but in regards to the front camera, it's decent but in non well lit situations it can be very noisy (this goes for both). For now, it's a no.
    I saw that review yesterday too. It's a shame that it came so close for you. Guess you have to put up with the SE/Pixel until spring...
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    09-27-2017 12:07 PM
  3. libra89's Avatar
    I saw that review yesterday too. It's a shame that it came so close for you. Guess you have to put up with the SE/Pixel until spring...
    Yeah that might be the case. With a price drop, I might be willing to give it a try though. It is disappointing though.
    09-27-2017 12:57 PM
  4. libra89's Avatar
    On a related note, I did the full drain test with the Pixel. I would say that it lasted nearly a day and a half, which is fine from 100-0%. Even so, from 100% to my normal percentage to charge any phone met me at about 24 hours. This always seems to be the case for me. (Better than what I had with the iPhone 7 though, but not better than the Galaxy A3. It takes really heavy usage to go under a day for me on that one.)

    Because of that, and also this: The Sony Xperia XZ1's camera has pleasantly surprised me - Android Central , the XZ1 Compact still might be worth a consideration for me.
    09-28-2017 03:28 PM
  5. nate0's Avatar
    On a related note, I did the full drain test with the Pixel. I would say that it lasted nearly a day and a half, which is fine from 100-0%. Even so, from 100% to my normal percentage to charge any phone met me at about 24 hours. This always seems to be the case for me. (Better than what I had with the iPhone 7 though, but not better than the Galaxy A3. It takes really heavy usage to go under a day for me on that one.)

    Because of that, and also this: The Sony Xperia XZ1's camera has pleasantly surprised me - Android Central , the XZ1 Compact still might be worth a consideration for me.
    Ya, the iphone 6 plus days are gone. I could go almost 3 days usage on one running iOS 9/10
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    09-28-2017 06:19 PM
  6. mark233's Avatar
    Cool, I didn't know that you upgraded already! Congrats! What color did you get?
    Space Gray (darker than the 6s Space Gray ... more like 'charcoal gray'). Bought it last Sunday (24th)

    It was in a pic I posted on 'Show your latest purchase' thread ... Ice cream, butter, and the new iPhone lol
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    09-28-2017 06:29 PM
  7. libra89's Avatar
    Ya, the iphone 6 plus days are gone. I could go almost 3 days usage on one running iOS 9/10
    Nicee. It's hard to go from a phone with really good battery life to one that is just "good".

    Even my SE is inferior with battery life when it comes to the other phone (Galaxy A3). I just want a phone that meets my basics and the XZ1 Compact is all that is left.

    Space Gray (darker than the 6s Space Gray ... more like 'charcoal gray'). Bought it last Sunday (24th)

    It was in a pic I posted on 'Show your latest purchase' thread ... Ice cream, butter, and the new iPhone lol
    Wow, somehow I saw the ice cream mainly the first time I saw that post. Fail for me lol. Now I see.
    Last edited by libra89; 09-28-2017 at 06:48 PM.
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    09-28-2017 06:37 PM
  8. mark233's Avatar
    Wow, somehow I saw the ice cream mainly the first time I saw that post. Fail for me lol. Now I see.
    I positioned it that way on purpose ... that ice cream tastes a whole lot better than the phone I'm sure
    09-28-2017 06:55 PM
  9. mark233's Avatar
    ... I'll add that I'm impressed with the 8 Plus. It is kinda big but not unmanageable. Two handed a lot.

    It's very fast and responsive. Display is really good. Very pleased with the display....and the speakers.

    ...up next --- LG V30 (sold my G6 today)
    09-28-2017 06:59 PM
  10. libra89's Avatar
    ... I'll add that I'm impressed with the 8 Plus. It is kinda big but not unmanageable. Two handed a lot.

    It's very fast and responsive. Display is really good. Very pleased with the display....and the speakers.

    ...up next --- LG V30 (sold my G6 today)
    That's cool! Congrats on the G6 sale, I can see you having fun with the V30 \o/
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    09-28-2017 07:00 PM
  11. nate0's Avatar
    ... I'll add that I'm impressed with the 8 Plus. It is kinda big but not unmanageable. Two handed a lot.

    It's very fast and responsive. Display is really good. Very pleased with the display....and the speakers.

    ...up next --- LG V30 (sold my G6 today)
    It's bigger in almost every way as far as dimensions over the 7 plus. Even 20g heavier almost despite an even smaller battery again.

    Edit: Ironically the iPhone 6 plus had a bigger battery, and was thinner and lighter than its siblings.
    Last edited by Nate W; 09-28-2017 at 07:56 PM.
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    09-28-2017 07:27 PM
  12. mark233's Avatar
    It's bigger in almost every way as far as dimensions over the 7 plus. Even 20g heavier almost despite an even smaller battery again.

    Edit: Ironically the iPhone 6 plus had a bigger battery, and was thinner and lighter than its siblings.
    I'm liking the battery on this 8 plus so far. Busy day for me at work today so wasn't on the phone much ...100% battery at 7am ... about 60 minutes SOT browsing in 8 hours with 1-2 bars of LTE showing ... reading news via Safari ... browsing a lot in Beam (a Reddit app) ... few screenshots + editing them ... several MMS texts ... no watching videos ... 96% battery available after. This is very light usage (for me).
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    09-29-2017 06:11 PM
  13. libra89's Avatar
    Finally got the book that I have been waiting to read on OverDrive for a while (it's been nearly a month?) but I don't know what phone to download it to. Debating if I should download to the Pixel or to the A3.

    This is truly a switcher problem. It's been easier to keep my SIM in the Pixel lately because it's been a busy weekend. Thinking about it though, I might just download it to the Pixel because with this book, I might be able to read it fast. I have something else going on shortly the day before this is "released" so I will restrain myself. (hmm, not sure about that LOL)

    It's funny the additional things you have to think about that can only be on one phone at a time...

    Edit: At the same time, just got a major buzzkill about ordering the XZ1 Compact. My favorite seller is going to be closed for a week and a half. Amazon is also selling it but there's tax on top of the $599.99 which gives me pause. I did the math and let's just say that the tax is enough for me to fill up my gas tank so I don't know about that.

    Edit 2: I see an alternative, which is slightly cheaper (no us warranty) but a restocking fee is taken. Decisions, decisions...
    Last edited by libra89; 09-30-2017 at 11:10 PM.
    09-30-2017 10:24 PM
  14. nate0's Avatar
    Edit: At the same time, just got a major buzzkill about ordering the XZ1 Compact. My favorite seller is going to be closed for a week and a half. Amazon is also selling it but there's tax on top of the $599.99 which gives me pause. I did the math and let's just say that the tax is enough for me to fill up my gas tank so I don't know about that.

    Edit 2: I see an alternative, which is slightly cheaper (no us warranty) but a restocking fee is taken. Decisions, decisions...
    I hate when that happens...;)
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    10-01-2017 12:29 AM
  15. libra89's Avatar
    I hate when that happens...;)
    Haha it's hard. Some days isn't so bad but that's a good while and I would like to try this out before my birthday (all I will say is that my birthday is this month). That closing is cramping my style.

    Considering taking the restocking fee hit possibly if it means paying less. I like the idea of being able to try it out soon. I don't think I want to be phone testing on my birthday or I could wait for a short term price drop.


    Edit: Even last year, I wasn't testing. I went from the Honor 8 to the SE because of the size and I was familiar with that phone. Not sure where my birthday will take me so I'll rather not test and be screwed.
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    10-01-2017 01:26 AM
  16. G4Grandad's Avatar
    Something is wrong with the screen on my L830. It keeps going bright then black randomly. There's nowhere I can get it repaired and no new phones I can afford to replace it with. I'm not willing to replace it with another used phone that MS doesn't support or with one of the few that MS can't be trusted to continue supporting. So, yes, I'm thinking of leaving. What other choice do I have when I'm being shunned and locked out?
    Last edited by G4Grandad; 10-01-2017 at 04:30 AM.
    10-01-2017 02:27 AM
  17. RumoredNow's Avatar
    . My favorite seller is going to be closed for a week and a half.
    Wait for B&H to reopen and place your preorder when it starts. IMHO, B&H = peace of mind with top shelf service and support. And you, @libra89 deserve to be treated the way they treat their customers.
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    10-01-2017 08:05 AM
  18. nate0's Avatar
    Haha it's hard. Some days isn't so bad but that's a good while and I would like to try this out before my birthday (all I will say is that my birthday is this month). That closing is cramping my style.

    Considering taking the restocking fee hit possibly if it means paying less. I like the idea of being able to try it out soon. I don't think I want to be phone testing on my birthday or I could wait for a short term price drop.


    Edit: Even last year, I wasn't testing. I went from the Honor 8 to the SE because of the size and I was familiar with that phone. Not sure where my birthday will take me so I'll rather not test and be screwed.
    When I want to purchase a mobile phone that I have never been able to hold and use, I tend to watch as many youtube videos demonstrating it or individuals using it as I can. This way I can look for the trouble areas and hopefully not see them. Sometimes even that does not stop me, especially if I just really want to try it out despite if I know I will have a problem using it.

    Someone should start a lease and return company for mobile phones. Rent-A-Phone :). Try out the latest and greatest for a period of time and small fee per month, then return it in Excellent condition only to pick up the next device they have to offer or you want to try. Of course if you choose to keep it keep paying on it. I bet that company would make a killing especially with all the unlocked models out there now.
    10-01-2017 08:17 AM
  19. libra89's Avatar
    Wait for B&H to reopen and place your preorder when it starts. IMHO, B&H = peace of mind with top shelf service and support. And you, @libra89 deserve to be treated the way they treat their customers.
    You're right! I know them and they are solid and no restocking fee helps too, along with 30 day returns. Peace of mind is better than a deal sometimes.

    Thanks. I will just place the order on Sunday or Monday after they open.
    Last edited by libra89; 10-02-2017 at 11:37 AM.
    10-01-2017 08:55 AM
  20. libra89's Avatar
    When I want to purchase a mobile phone that I have never been able to hold and use, I tend to watch as many youtube videos demonstrating it or individuals using it as I can. This way I can look for the trouble areas and hopefully not see them. Sometimes even that does not stop me, especially if I just really want to try it out despite if I know I will have a problem using it.

    Someone should start a lease and return company for mobile phones. Rent-A-Phone :). Try out the latest and greatest for a period of time and small fee per month, then return it in Excellent condition only to pick up the next device they have to offer or you want to try. Of course if you choose to keep it keep paying on it. I bet that company would make a killing especially with all the unlocked models out there now.
    I totally agree with you. I hate that's there's only been three reviews so far. Hopefully in my time of patience, more will drop.

    Yeah that would be awesome!
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    10-01-2017 08:58 AM
  21. fatclue_98's Avatar
    I totally agree with you. I hate that's there's only been three reviews so far. Hopefully in my time of patience, more will drop.

    Yeah that would be awesome!
    It’s a shame Phone Scoop rarely reviews a phone not tied to a US carrier. I’ve always enjoyed Eric Zeman’s reviews as he pulls no punches and is usually very fair (and balanced). Please don’t hate me for the Fox News allusion.
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    10-01-2017 08:01 PM
  22. libra89's Avatar
    It’s a shame Phone Scoop rarely reviews a phone not tied to a US carrier. I’ve always enjoyed Eric Zeman’s reviews as he pulls no punches and is usually very fair (and balanced). Please don’t hate me for the Fox News allusion.
    No hate here. It's about what works for you.

    For me, I like YouTube reviews, even some European review channels as well. Outside of those, I'm really waiting on Android Central the most, followed by Android Authority and if I get lucky, Phone Arena too. The last one can be hit or miss, but I just need common themes to make a decision.
    10-01-2017 08:06 PM
  23. fatclue_98's Avatar
    No hate here. It's about what works for you.

    For me, I like YouTube reviews, even some European review channels as well. Outside of those, I'm really waiting on Android Central the most, followed by Android Authority and if I get lucky, Phone Arena too. The last one can be hit or miss, but I just need common themes to make a decision.
    Is there a Sony-specific site you could visit?
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    10-02-2017 02:14 PM
  24. libra89's Avatar
    Is there a Sony-specific site you could visit?
    There are some, I'm sure but I actually don't really like niche sites for reviews because sometimes they don't mention things that I wouldn't know already and/or they give a pass on something not being there because "that's just how it is".

    For example, I read iMore's iPhone reviews with a grain of salt. I can learn things from them but it's the same deal. I'm more drawn to people who seem to be not as biased, like MrMobile/Michael Fisher. I remember the outrage that some people shared around here when he reviewed the Idol 4s (WM10 version, that is) last year. I saw his take as a honest one.

    Ah, wrote too much, basically I'll rather not. I need the honest take of someone or a site that seems less biased.

    Edit: I realize the irony of writing this on Windows Central but I have noticed that the writers seem to give phones a fair shake. Like no pass on saying something like, "Well this doesn't have PureView so the camera isn't the best but it's doable." That's a fair statement but someone outside of Windows Phone would not know what the heck PureView is.
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    10-02-2017 02:29 PM
  25. Zachary Boddy's Avatar
    Today has been one heck of a day. And, no, I do not mean in an exciting and hectic way. I mean, the largest mass shooting in US history and my entire country seems to want to spend its time arguing about how "he wasn't a terrorist" and how it's perfectly okay to be able to buy a fully automatic machine gun even if you're a convicted felon. I mean, Tom Petty passed away today. I mean, Microsoft announced that they're shutting down Groove Music.
    Yeah, all that happened today. The first two are worse, but the last one is what I want to focus on right now. Microsoft is closing down their music service, just as it's finally coming into its own.
    Here we have something we can be proud of as Windows users, a beautiful and functional all-in-one music service. It's one of the best looking apps on Windows phones, and it comes with a huge and expansive music library with reasonable prices and good, reliable performance. And now it's going out the door, along with Windows phones.

    And that, for me, is the final straw. I'm throwing in the towel with Windows phones. I'm doing something I've never done before: buying a phone day one (or close to day one). Oh, did I mention it's an Android? I'm going to be picking up an LG V30. It's the first phone in a long while that has got me excited. And when I get my hands on it, my Lumia 950 XL will sit on my desk until the end of its miserable existence. A fantastic phone that is plagued with too many empty and broken promises, along with its fair share of bugs, glitches, and all around faults. I might keep my Lumia 950 alive just for something to play music at the house, but I don't even know about that now.

    Look, I've been an avid Microsoft supporter for as long as I can remember. I truly believe in their vision of a smarter and easier future of technology. I believe in the "one OS to rule them all" outlook with Windows. I think Microsoft makes some of the best services available, on any platform. They have a lot of things going for them, and are on their way to a long, successful, and lucrative life as one of the best technology firms out there. But I'm done trying to support their vision at the expense of my hard-earned money, time, and energy. They've broken too many promises, taken too many things away, shut down too many services, under-delivered on too many things... and I'm done. If/when the Surface Phone arrives, I will not be in line to buy one. I always thought I would be, but I'm at the end of my patience. Google goes from strength to strength, while Microsoft talks a big game that they can't play. No, scratch that, they can very much play it, but they won't. I won't even blame this on Nadella. He is a fantastic businessman and a great leader. He just doesn't believe in the same things Microsoft's consumers do. Microsoft as a whole is alienating their most loyal fans, and before long the only people they'll have are those who only use Microsoft services because their work told them too. Yeah, they'll be making more money than ever. But nobody will care.

    Where do you stand with Microsoft today? How do you feel about the recent news? Are you still sticking with the Windows phone path? Discuss!
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    10-02-2017 04:11 PM
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