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  1. WizeGuyDezignz's Avatar
    Hey guys, so I last posted about two months ago after I left my 928 for a Galaxy S4. I now have an LG G2 which is a much better phone and probably the best Android phone currently available.

    Anyhow, I need to update some of my statements. I said that I would possibly be back to WP8 soon, but sadly, I won't be. I've been having an awesome experience with Android and it just does everything that I need it to, and then some. I haven't seen much progress on the WP8 front, and if I'm being realistic, there won't be enough progress for me to switch anytime soon.

    I know that nobody probably cares, but just wanted to post an update. I will be with Android for the foreseeable future.
    10-14-2013 12:53 PM
  2. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Hey guys, so I last posted about two months ago after I left my 928 for a Galaxy S4. I now have an LG G2 which is a much better phone and probably the best Android phone currently available.

    Anyhow, I need to update some of my statements. I said that I would possibly be back to WP8 soon, but sadly, I won't be. I've been having an awesome experience with Android and it just does everything that I need it to, and then some. I haven't seen much progress on the WP8 front, and if I'm being realistic, there won't be enough progress for me to switch anytime soon.

    I know that nobody probably cares, but just wanted to post an update. I will be with Android for the foreseeable future.
    As long as you care, that's really all that matters. After all, this thread is for the sole purpose of knowing who's leaving WP and why.

    NOT!!

    We just want to know who the traitors are and have fun bashing them. Suckers!!
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    10-14-2013 02:38 PM
  3. Steven Garrigus's Avatar
    Well, it's been a fun three years but I am moving on from Windows Phone until it matures and does what I need my smartphone to do. I'm not a hater and/or fanboy of any particular operating system, but don't really care for Android. I've picked up an iPhone 5C for $45 with free downloads for iMovie, iPhoto, Numbers, Pages and Keynote.

    The biggest reason for my move is the app situation that just seems to steadily NOT improve significantly on Windows Phone. Having stuck with WP from an HTC Surround WP7 through my beautiful red Lumia 920, there is still an incredibly huge disparity between the available apps.

    Live Tiles was a big draw for me and are supposed to replace a unified notification center. Unfortunately, the tiles update every hour or so at best or in the case of most 3rd party apps, not at all. I still keep my Lumia charged and play on it, and was dismayed this morning that my Amazing Weather app says it's 10/10 @ 10:41PM and my Super Calendar app shows Friday Oct 11, 1013. Other tiles I have pinned such as Facebook and Voxxer have a little number in a circle in the top right corner of the tile. What kind of "live update" is that? Isn't that what we criticize iOS and Android about? Hell, my iPhone running iOS7 has a clock and calendar icon that keeps real time & date. You can even watch the second hand move and keep time. With the seeming inability for my Lumia to perform updates on my "live" tiles, it makes the glaring lack of a unified notification center even more painful. Especially if you miss a non-pinned app buzzing a tone on WP8.

    As far as the camera goes, daytime shots are pretty even between the two, though as I expected-the Lumia 920 takes much better low-light shots sans flash. With flash on, there isn't a huge difference. On the other hand, I have to hand it to Apple with the panorama shooting. It works flawlessly and cranks out great panoramas with a simple-to-use interface whereas the Lumia almost always causes ghosts, artifacts and blurring.

    As far as user interface goes, I think it's trendy now to bash the grid of icons interface that iOS and Android use. I personally have no issues with it. I prefer pages of icons that I can arrange as I see fit to a 10-mile long alphabetical list on WP8. I've always wanted Microsoft to add a folder option to group similar apps but they refuse to do it aside from the "Games" folder. Why can't I create a "system tools" or "photography" folder to group my programs? iOS allows this which I find very handy. I also like the ability to customize my backgrounds on iOS. For those that say you can't even see the background images well through the icons, you can arrange them as you like and can leave blank spots or even leave the first page blank except the bottom row as one of my friends is fond of.

    Microsoft insists that the signal and battery meters disappear from the screen, but the capacitive buttons never dim or shut off. This makes no sense to me. I also find the random battery drains, even in airplane mode with all apps closed and no background tasks enabled infuriating. When I go into work, I turn airplane mode on. When I come out eight hours later, I may have 95% of my battery remaining or 20%. Why?

    As for what I miss from my everyday iPhone use, I miss the larger, more sensitive screen. I miss the dedicated search button and I miss the wireless charging. Though in more recent phones like the Lumia 925 and 1020, the wireless charging is not built-in and requires a special shell. To me this is @$$-backwards since it is one of Lumia 920's strongest selling points.

    So, that's my story. Please don't flame as it's pointless. I look forward to this OS (hopefully) maturing and filling my needs.
    10-16-2013 08:00 PM
  4. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Nothing to flame, we each have our reasons. Good luck.
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    10-16-2013 09:01 PM
  5. Jonathan Piferrer's Avatar
    Well... this few months i was happy with my Nokia Lumia 620/720/920, i loved it, until today...

    - i decided give a try again to ios, and later come back to Nokia the day when 1020 or 1520 be available in my country (argentina in one year aprox)

    I sold 920 today, and when i made a "restore phone", I'M STUCK ON SPINNING GEARS SINCE YESTERDAY, TRIED ALL BUTTON PRESSING TIPS, GOOGLED WPCENTRAL ETC ETC..

    Coud it be possible than in my LAST Windows Phone approach, this could happen to me? So sad, i don't know what to do, i must deliver to buyer the phone today, but THE SPINNING GEARS KEEP ROLLING...
    10-24-2013 10:13 AM
  6. ricbon's Avatar
    FIrst of all you cant give a paying customer the phone in that condition, second i know there is a thread here how to fix it. Third good luck with the iphone I too was switching between the iphone5 and the lumia 920 but due to the fact i hate the screen size of the iphone and how the wifi had issues I am selling my iphone 5.
    10-24-2013 10:25 AM
  7. thomas wojcik's Avatar
    Well... this few months i was happy with my Nokia Lumia 620/720/920, i loved it, until today...

    - i decided give a try again to ios, and later come back to Nokia the day when 1020 or 1520 be available in my country (argentina in one year aprox)

    I sold 920 today, and when i made a "restore phone", I'M STUCK ON SPINNING GEARS SINCE YESTERDAY, TRIED ALL BUTTON PRESSING TIPS, GOOGLED WPCENTRAL ETC ETC..

    Coud it be possible than in my LAST Windows Phone approach, this could happen to me? So sad, i don't know what to do, i must deliver to buyer the phone today, but THE SPINNING GEARS KEEP ROLLING...
    http://forums.windowscentral.com/win...sers-only.html
    10-24-2013 01:27 PM
  8. Indistinguishable's Avatar
    Well... this few months i was happy with my Nokia Lumia 620/720/920, i loved it, until today...

    - i decided give a try again to ios, and later come back to Nokia the day when 1020 or 1520 be available in my country (argentina in one year aprox)

    I sold 920 today, and when i made a "restore phone", I'M STUCK ON SPINNING GEARS SINCE YESTERDAY, TRIED ALL BUTTON PRESSING TIPS, GOOGLED WPCENTRAL ETC ETC..

    Coud it be possible than in my LAST Windows Phone approach, this could happen to me? So sad, i don't know what to do, i must deliver to buyer the phone today, but THE SPINNING GEARS KEEP ROLLING...
    As frustrating at the spinning gear lock up is... This is hilarious. I hope you get it fixed soon.
    10-24-2013 01:52 PM
  9. pseudoware's Avatar
    Lol, I tried to reset my 920, and it got stuck on the spinning gears when I had some interested Craigslist buyers lined up. I ended having to flash the firmware. Total BS that this should occur from a simple reset attempt. This left me pretty pissed off about the platform.

    And to those calling "traitor" to others. LOL, really? It's a damn phone.

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4
    10-27-2013 07:28 PM
  10. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Traitors don't pay the bills but they sure are funny as hell.

    Sent from my DROIDX using WPCentral Forums mobile app
    10-27-2013 07:44 PM
  11. Notorious MIKE's Avatar
    Anyone recently switched from 7.8 to 8? Been using a Lumia 710 for the past year and a half, awaiting the arrival of a new 1020. Just wondering if anyone who has recently upgraded has some WP8 only apps to recommend.
    10-27-2013 07:50 PM
  12. Darth litku's Avatar
    Im loving my windows phone 8 experience... I already been to ios and android... I have my 720 as my phone and everything that i need is here. Whenever i buy something i always think of the features of that phone/gadget will suit my needs. I dont want to pay more for the features and specs that i wont use. :D
    10-27-2013 08:10 PM
  13. Steven Garrigus's Avatar
    Lol, I tried to reset my 920, and it got stuck on the spinning gears when I had some interested Craigslist buyers lined up. I ended having to flash the firmware. Total BS that this should occur from a simple reset attempt. This left me pretty pissed off about the platform.

    And to those calling "traitor" to others. LOL, really? It's a damn phone.

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4
    Lol...how ironic. I put my Lumia 920 up for sale on eBay last night. Today I went into the settings and chose to reset the phone. Spinning gears for two + hours...finally had to download the Nokia Retailer program, download the 1.2 gig firmware and flash it. Got it all working thankfully and it's now boxed up for shipping to it's new owner.

    This kinda describes my whole experience with Windows Phone 8. From the moment I got my first Lumia 920, it kept dropping signal and 99% of the time, the signal was on the Edge network. After a day, I took it back and AT&T couldn't fix it. They exchanged it. New one worked better, but kept trying to default to plain-Jane 3G when the faux 4G HSPA+ is more common. Did the ##8292 or whatever workaround to force the phone to run the 4G. The update was released and I happily updated my phone. Guess what? It disabled the ability to get into this test mode and locked my phone to HSPA+ even when I went into an LTE coverage area.

    This among other issues describes my whole Windows Phone 8 experience. A headache. Constantly wondering if my phone would brick after an update. Constantly checking SpeedTest to see if the phone was running well. It's more like having a test kit than a dependable piece of hardware. Not to mention how my live tiles refused to update, no matter what I tried.

    I have an iPhone 5C now. When there is an update, it just downloads and installs. I can even use the phone until the actual update is flashed. I never have to worry about my signal. In fact, areas where I had 3 bars at best on the Lumia, I have full coverage on the iPhone. This isn't a comparison between the two on their merits and drawbacks, but with the iPhone I know it's just. GOING. TO. WORK.
    10-27-2013 08:35 PM
  14. LumiaWorld's Avatar
    I love reading your stories...๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ˜Š

    Two thumbs up! ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘
    10-29-2013 07:57 AM
  15. qsr786's Avatar
    For me Nowadays it looks like Microsoft has no Love for Windows Phone, look what is coming in 2014? VPN Support Wuhooo! (ironic off).

    I mean the UI and everything could be so much better its not only about apps, its about the user experience. Yes I know WP Ui is very fluid and fast, but there is no colour no love man, ive been waiting and waiting for Microsoft to do sthing and what did they do? Another row for 5 inch devices and higher haha, thats why Microsoft doesnt get love.
    11-01-2013 08:57 AM
  16. broar94's Avatar
    It's the same with ios, no customisability. But now, ios7 has brought a fresh coat of paint, looks odd but yet colourful from the boring interface. But this is not what iPhone sells for, it's the simplicity and the sheer amount of apps that are available on the platform. If there are more number of apps, and better bug fixes and more software/os features from Microsoft, 2014 will be a bright year for windows phone. Waiting eagerly for wp8.1
    11-01-2013 11:54 AM
  17. Sanjay Chandra's Avatar
    It's the same with ios, no customisability. But now, ios7 has brought a fresh coat of paint, looks odd but yet colourful from the boring interface. But this is not what iPhone sells for, it's the simplicity and the sheer amount of apps that are available on the platform. If there are more number of apps, and better bug fixes and more software/os features from Microsoft, 2014 will be a bright year for windows phone. Waiting eagerly for wp8.1
    I have to disagree about some things here.

    WP is way easier to use than iOS.

    "Sheer amount of apps" is actually contradictory to your statement.If there are so many "options" , it will be confusing to the user (This is Apple fan's logic yesterday when I said that iOS has very bad sharing capabilities and he says that many studies show that too many choices will hinder the productivity/decision making which leaves unhappy experience).

    Yes , that was stupid thing to say indeed.

    Back to the point ,

    Yes , WP need bug fixes and more features.Some official apps too.
    11-01-2013 10:09 PM
  18. Jonathan Piferrer's Avatar
    Finally, THE BUYER DIDN'T APPEAR, until now, IT HASN'T BEEN SOLD.... IS VERY HARD TO SELL WINDOWS PHONE DEVICES....!!!

    The phone finally worked, thanks for the advices... but nobody wants to buy it!!!!
    11-05-2013 06:51 AM
  19. spazzmeister's Avatar
    I won't be be buying another Windows Phone. Not worth the risk. There is no Nokia Care in my country and my current 720 had two faults in 6 weeks. My S3 over a period of one year has had no problems whatsoever. I don't need to worry about my phone rebooting/crashing or being unable to hear who I'm talking to on the phone. If these faults appear then the OS is dead to me. A phone is for making and receiving calls. What's the point of WP if I'll be tinkering as much as with an Android?
    11-05-2013 09:37 PM
  20. fatclue_98's Avatar
    I won't be be buying another Windows Phone. Not worth the risk. There is no Nokia Care in my country and my current 720 had two faults in 6 weeks. My S3 over a period of one year has had no problems whatsoever. I don't need to worry about my phone rebooting/crashing or being unable to hear who I'm talking to on the phone. If these faults appear then the OS is dead to me. A phone is for making and receiving calls. What's the point of WP if I'll be tinkering as much as with an Android?
    What's the point of having a smartphone if making and receiving calls is all you apparently need? A 10 year-old Nokia flip-phone would be more reliable and cost less.
    11-05-2013 10:27 PM
  21. stalemate1's Avatar
    What's the point of having a smartphone if making and receiving calls is all you apparently need? A 10 year-old Nokia flip-phone would be more reliable and cost less.
    My thoughts exactly. No phone makes and receives calls better than a Nokia 3310...
    11-06-2013 01:20 AM
  22. chezm's Avatar
    Got a hardware upgrade coming up in 2 months and on the fence between staying with WP or moving back to iPhone, I've been 'away' since my iPhone 3G although i play around with my wifes iPhone 5. If i do go with iPhone its definitely the 5S model. I currently have a Lumia 920 and while its great for a lot of things, there are some things i personally find iPhone does better. From reading the responses above, i see a lot of flaming towards non-windows so i expect to get nailed....but whatever. I am not a fanboy of any specific manufacturer...i have a Surface Pro 2, Nexus 7, iPod Nano Gen5 and Lumia 920.

    My personal Pros and Cons list (note, my personal opinions and not stating as facts).

    WP8
    PROs
    • Unique/Individual Start Menu
    • Social Network Integration (although im not a big social network person)
    • Colorful
    • Camera is incredible most of the time...(will not Con below)
    • No lag
    • Love the stock keyboard
    • Office Free
    • Nokia Apps, Drive+ amazing since uses no GPS Data
    • Physical design build, excellent


    CONs
    • Camera can be inconsistent. When it works like it should its incredible, however a lot of the time the pictures do come out blurry, not what i expect. I would say 60-70% of the time i get whats expected on the screen from the actual picture itself
    • IE while good lacks essential forward/back dedicated buttons...very frusterating when browsing and hitting the wrong button.
    • Screen/Phone too big for me, i prefer a smaller size (4" perfect size for me, 920 is just massive)
    • battery drain is annoying, happens daily
    • Lack of certain apps that do not have optional webbased workaround (some personal choices)
    • Live tiles arent updated properly by majority of my apps


    In a lot of cases iPhone performs the same as WP in my opinion, so switching wouldn't make much sense. A big driver to give iPhone a shot is iOS7 which i personally think is great, while it does have some quirks that need to be kinked out...if iPhone still looked like iOS6 i wouldnt be so drawn to it. The major or key reasons to consider switching is the phone and screen size (yes, i want a 4" high end phone), the consistently very good pictures (too inconsistent with my experience on 920), list of apps that wont come to WP and theres no webpage workaround and superb audio/music player.

    No im not going on saying WP8 is bad and i may not jump ship, really comes down to WP8.1 and Nokia's upcoming phones. I think it will always come down to personal preference, whether you want to express individuality or have a device that meets your needs is whats most important. I believe the needs of people change over time and thats why this generation, with all the opitons we have, constantly change between OS's since maybe at certain times it makes more sense to use one more than the other.

    UPDATE: I did the switch, picked up an iPhone 5s and today im selling my Lumia 920. I will be eagerly standing on the sidelines watching WP unfold over the next 2 years for when my contract renewal is up. Looks like i will be battling inner demons for my love for both OS's, Android will never capture my appreciation for WP and iOS. WP8 was a fun ride, excited to see what WP9 brings.
    Last edited by chezm; 11-18-2013 at 12:27 PM.
    11-11-2013 10:43 AM
  23. Sanjay Chandra's Avatar
    As much as I like iOS and iPhone , I simply don't like small screen.I have big hands and also screen is little bit bad compared to competition with 400+ ppi and difference is visible if you use a 1080p screen and go back to iPhone or 720 screen.

    But is it going to stop me from liking it ? I think its a trade-off but worth because Apple eco system is very nice.

    Then again , I have iPad with me , So why not get an Android device and try it ? I did it and I like it as much as iOS.Yes , overall OS is lagging compared to both WP and iOS but it gives lot of customizing what WP/iOS doesn't give.Lags here and there are therefore not bothering anymore.

    Smoothest OS is WP for sure , it never drops a single frame but trade offs in my experience are a lot than Android or iOS.

    I think choice of OS comes with certain trade offs but at the end of day , If you are happy with what OS you use , that's what matters.
    11-12-2013 10:00 AM
  24. chezm's Avatar
    As much as I like iOS and iPhone , I simply don't like small screen.I have big hands
    Thats a very good point, if the user doesn't like the smaller screen than iPhone is definitely not the appropriate device. I also have big hands but find using the iPhone 5 screen to be great, surprisingly. Even with big hands i find using my L920 or my previous S3 to be cumbersome and impossible with single hand use, i consider this to be a big deal for me. I have used a 520 and it was a great size, but the lack of flash and 512GB ram wasn't sufficient for me personally. I find the perfect size phones ive tested recently to be a 520, S4 Mini or iPhone 5.

    Thankfully consumers have many devices to choose from and pick which suits their needs best,
    11-14-2013 10:25 AM
  25. Sanjay Chandra's Avatar
    Thats a very good point, if the user doesn't like the smaller screen than iPhone is definitely not the appropriate device. I also have big hands but find using the iPhone 5 screen to be great, surprisingly. Even with big hands i find using my L920 or my previous S3 to be cumbersome and impossible with single hand use, i consider this to be a big deal for me. I have used a 520 and it was a great size, but the lack of flash and 512GB ram wasn't sufficient for me personally. I find the perfect size phones ive tested recently to be a 520, S4 Mini or iPhone 5.

    Thankfully consumers have many devices to choose from and pick which suits their needs best,
    To just give you a glimpse , I link a video of MKBHD , my hands are roughly same size as his hands :




    Scroll to 1:50 (and pause at 1:53) You see that ? he tilts the angle little bit to actually press home button (using bottom buttons also little difficult like safari navigation)

    Pressing home button with thumb takes some effort :) sometimes I tilt my itouch to comfortably use the button.I tried to use my iTouch several times with one hand but after like 3-5 min. , my thumb gets stressed out

    If iPhone is little wider , it will be very good for holding with one hand but again difficult to use it with one hand.That's the irony.......
    chezm likes this.
    11-19-2013 11:16 AM
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