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  1. Dominosdad's Avatar
    I love my WP. I do get slightly annoyed by some implenetations ( like the calendar) that are a bit rough round the edges.
    But I don't really understand what it is that people want when the say there aren't enough apps or enough high-end devices.
    It's a phone. A smartphone, but still a phone.
    So what apps do they actually need, that are missing? Or do they mean not enough games?
    And as to high end devices, since the middle range devices do everything that anyone could reasonably expect of a smartphone, and do it well - what are they looking for? A camera that's as good as a DSLR? If so, why? If they're serious enough about photography they'd have a proper DSLR.
    Or is it about having a status symbol? In which case they should be buying an iPhone and paying the Apple Tax.
    Windows Phones are a good device that does what they need to do.
    That being said, if Microsoft don't release 8.1.1 etc for exisitng phones because they want us to buy newer ones I will walk away. But that's on principle, not because it's a bad phone.
    01-07-2015 03:53 PM
  2. emiel1976's Avatar
    I dont agree with you about windows phone doesnt have high end phones. Both L1520 and 930 are high end, even though they are not top of the line in hardware niche they are still doing their work good, and since windows doesnt need octa core and quazilion gigs of ram to work normal, you can call them freely high end phones.
    I agree with you but people don't see that, that way and look to the numbers and functions and not to what a platform needs to run good. Also things like a finger print reader and other useless functions are seen as things for high end phones.
    People look ad the spec's and than wp stays behind.
    That is why I say that wp has no high end phone.

    I like wp because I don't need to buy the latest version with the highest spec's to have a smooth experience.
    01-07-2015 04:28 PM
  3. Nahuel 1988's Avatar
    The M8 has very high-end specs... I don't understand why all this "switching" threads are here. Way too many.
    01-07-2015 04:38 PM
  4. PacificNormWest's Avatar
    I love the Windows Phone OS. I fell in love with it so much that I left iOS three years ago for a Lumia 900. Wow, remember those days!? I felt optimistic then, but now I feel that WP is slipping more noticeably. I don't feel entitled to have the best apps that third parties produce for WP, but if I purchase another piece of hardware from Microsoft, in the form of Windows Mobile, it better mean that I have the best apps that Microsoft can produce. This is the slipping part that feels new to the equation. My Lumia 920 is a great piece of hardware, but a device that is faster, lighter, equipped with a better camera and a better app experience is in order after two plus years. Yes, I was one of those who felt burned by MS during the 7-7.X vs. 8 fiasco. I upgraded with a second phone line 9 months after I purchased the 900. That's dedication! I've been holding out on an upgrade for a long time, even resorting to purchasing an iPad Mini (Wi-Fi only) to have access to all the other apps I can't get on my 920.

    Today, I feel a bit dissed by MS again. The Office suite of apps is far superior on my new Surface Pro 3 and iPad Mini 2 than it ever was on my L920. This should never be the case and I hope Microsoft is serious about their 'One Microsoft' commitment. MS is promising good things for us, so I truly hope they deliver. By better experience, I also refer to the OS itself. Windows Mobile must be better out of the box than Windows Phone. Baked in features (notifications, start screen customization, camera, battery life, Cortana, 32 GB built-in memory or greater, and a much improved OneDrive experience). I'm not here to address the chicken/egg debate of the OS. I'm just a consumer who expects an excellent software experience on a piece of hardware from the same company (granted it is technically a Nokia device, but it is essentially Microsoft now). I get this on my Surface Pro 3, RT and Xbox One. Clearly I support Microsoft, but I'm wondering if waiting for the next generation of phones is worth it. Should I go back to iOS in the form of iPhone 6? My iPad Mini 2 is making it easier to contemplate the change. Will Microsoft whip Windows Mobile into shape? BTW, go easy on the devs, in the end, it is Microsoft that needs to make the experience better for them so that they can make it great for us.
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    01-08-2015 06:36 PM
  5. rockstarzzz's Avatar
    If you feel iOS will give you what your are lacking - unification on its tablet, laptop, PC, phone and gaming console - by all means you should get iPhone.

    But to "feel at home" in an ecosystem, Microsoft will again be the first there. Microsoft has been first at many things and screwed up royally. But back then it was slow now we see a different Microsoft so maybe in this ecosystem race Microsoft will win.

    People should stop buying into platforms. It's so 2010. 2020s are going to be the time for ecosystems and they will be the foundation for internet of things. This is where your money is? Then stay.
    Using my Halloween Lumia 930.
    01-08-2015 07:12 PM
  6. RumoredNow's Avatar
    Yes you should... Or shouldn't. No one here knows you better than you. Good luck.


    *cue thread merger with http://forums.windowscentral.com/win...ment-here.html in 5, 4, 3, 2, ...
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    01-08-2015 07:28 PM
  7. fatclue_98's Avatar
    If I go there will be trouble and if I stay it will be double.
    01-08-2015 07:52 PM
  8. aximtreo's Avatar
    I guess the OP lost me when I came to the word "entitled". I'm just too old to understand how anyone can have a sense of entitlement.
    01-08-2015 07:56 PM
  9. fatclue_98's Avatar
    I guess the OP lost me when I came to the word "entitled". I'm just too old to understand how anyone can have a sense of entitlement.
    "Windows Mobile" did me in.
    01-08-2015 08:27 PM
  10. aximtreo's Avatar
    That also. Remember those days fondly.
    01-08-2015 08:30 PM
  11. bmetelsky's Avatar
    "Windows Mobile" did me in.

    I was just thinking about my Motorola MPX 200, MPX 220, and my HTC Star Trek. Couldn't imagine using Windows on a clam shell type phone today..
    01-08-2015 09:24 PM
  12. Felbrigge Psalter's Avatar
    Tomorrow morning I plan on going to the Apple store to finally turn to the dark side. I have been using Windows Phones for two years, first a Lumia 822 and then a 928. I loved the 928, and was thrilled with the Denim update--it really felt like Christmas morning. Then two things happened: I dropped the 928 and the screen shattered, and my work gave me an Apple Store gift card as a gratuity.

    I love the WP interface, and don't really care that much about apps, but I've finally gotten tired of waving the WP flag when there seems to be so little love in return. I was just about to get a new 928 at Verizon, and then the next day they yanked it. I have an iPad (another gift from work), and it's okay but the UI seems like a sad Soviet-era platform next to WP. I use it mainly for apps that I can't get on WP.

    My main priority is music. I loved Zune, still use my HD, and I keep thinking that in the next iteration MS will get Xbox Music right, but I'm always disappointed. Obviously, not a fan of iTunes, but curious to see if it's now any worse than Xbox Music.

    I'm concerned that if I stick with WP the support will continue to dwindle and eventually it will go the way of Blackberry, or become Android plus. Should I stop kidding myself that WP someday will become a robust environment with a killer Zune-like music app? Or should I continue to be patient and not lock myself into Apple's unimaginative but well-supported ecosystem?

    Thanks!
    01-10-2015 04:54 PM
  13. realwarder's Avatar
    The grass is always greener on the other side. This year should be more exciting than any iOS 8.2 update with Windows 10 coming , but the iPhone 6 is a great phone. If you switch, enjoy, if not, enjoy. Only you know what is best and that can change monthly for some.
    01-10-2015 04:58 PM
  14. matt john2's Avatar
    IOS is good OS actually, I own L1020 iPhone 4 5s and 6 and couple of Androids but I gave my iPhone 6 to my sister and kept the L1020 and the rest. All I could say is, the iPhone 6 is a hell of a phone, its so damn pretty and it feels expensive, but those were the only positive thing I could think of. It also suffers quick battery drain which really sucks, that's why I gave it away. I dont also think there's an advantage of having a slim phone especially at its size, I'm a big guy and the iPhone 6 is feels really awkward and fragile to handle, I feel like I might gonna crush it or something. Its a pretty good phone but the battery life is I think the huge con of the iPhone 6.
    Choice is still yours, both os/phones are good, you can always go back to which you prefer it's just a phone anyway.
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    01-10-2015 05:31 PM
  15. Captain_pipes 's Avatar
    Hey guys. I absolutely love WP and and the very proud owner of a 635. Recently I've had the opportunity to switch to IOS and will be doing so. I love the wp platform and Microsoft does an excellent job with it. Unfortunately the dev support is awful and that's what I'm interested in. I'll be holding on the the 635 though. Not. Bad phone for $99

    I'm getting an iPhone but I'm keeping the 635 too. I like all three
    Last edited by Guytronic; 01-11-2015 at 04:05 PM.
    01-10-2015 06:54 PM
  16. chris_t's Avatar
    Used a L520 for a couple of weeks last year, but sold it and got myself a Z10. Tried to go back to WP in december, I even took a L730 for a test drive, but, even if I love the Live Tiles and the general UI, WP is still far behind BB10 in terms of user experience. Sent the Lumia back and preparing to upgrade my Z10 to another BB.

    No way I'd go with Android, it's a joke of an OS. Ios may be good, but I'm never gonna pay for a darn phone more than I pay on a TV/laptop.
    Last edited by Guytronic; 01-11-2015 at 04:05 PM.
    01-11-2015 02:01 PM
  17. paulxxwall's Avatar
    Unfortunately my time with WP might be running out as the issues im dealing with have no work around. My business now banks with a bank that not only doesn't support WP but the mobile site has problems with WP internet explorer. I have emailed them but they wont be putting in money for a "handfull" of wp user so say the customer service rep, facebook notification are not on time! They are for my coworkers android, he gets them like instantly , and other sites that just don't have mobile version that have apps on ios or android but not on WP....and not coming any time soon. I need a functioning facebook pages manager app because what we have...doesn't work. I've emailed the dev and says " will look in to it for next update"? So really im so upset at WP that im forced to switch or end up loosing my position as social manager to a guy with an iPhone. Just because his phone can do more than mine . So now to save my spot im looking at iPhones...i can't believe it...like Microsoft is some old mom and pop company working out of a shed or somethingšŸ˜©
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    01-11-2015 02:32 PM
  18. realwarder's Avatar
    Unfortunately my time with WP might be running out as the issues im dealing with have no work around. My business now banks with a bank that not only doesn't support WP but the mobile site has problems with WP internet explorer. I have emailed them but they wont be putting in money for a "handfull" of wp user so say the customer service rep, facebook notification are not on time! They are for my coworkers android, he gets them like instantly , and other sites that just don't have mobile version that have apps on ios or android but not on WP....and not coming any time soon. I need a functioning facebook pages manager app because what we have...doesn't work. I've emailed the dev and says " will look in to it for next update"? So really im so upset at WP that im forced to switch or end up loosing my position as social manager to a guy with an iPhone. Just because his phone can do more than mine . So now to save my spot im looking at iPhones...i can't believe it...like Microsoft is some old mom and pop company working out of a shed or somethingšŸ˜©
    Which Bank is that?
    01-11-2015 10:48 PM
  19. Nogitsune Micah's Avatar
    The M8 has very high-end specs... I don't understand why all this "switching" threads are here. Way too many.
    Because many people don't want that phone. They want a Lumia high end device.
    01-11-2015 11:07 PM
  20. mowinemdown's Avatar
    I am leaving for iOS. My 1520's screen went berserk and I just couldn't see myself getting another one. Honestly the last straw was when they released Flipboard and it didn't flip. That tells me there are some OS limitations. This might seem like a little thing, but those little things add up to a poor user experience in the end. I will check again after windows 10 is released, but for now I am going to quit my martyrdom and enjoy my new phone
    01-14-2015 01:16 AM
  21. paulxxwall's Avatar
    Which Bank is that?
    Florida community bank
    01-14-2015 09:32 AM
  22. pwrof3's Avatar
    I am leaving for iOS. My 1520's screen went berserk and I just couldn't see myself getting another one. Honestly the last straw was when they released Flipboard and it didn't flip. That tells me there are some OS limitations. This might seem like a little thing, but those little things add up to a poor user experience in the end. I will check again after windows 10 is released, but for now I am going to quit my martyrdom and enjoy my new phone
    iOS is by far the best mobile OS in terms of content, but the lack of live tiles or widgets of any kind make it a lot more work just to do things like check the weather, email, etc.
    But, yes, iOS is much better than Android. I've used all three and Android by far was the worst. Lots of lag and unstable apps.
    iOS is beautiful and works flawlessly. Enjoy, but you will miss live tiles. I know I did!
    01-14-2015 12:51 PM
  23. jorden vanmeensel's Avatar
    Hey guys!

    First of all, this is more of a blog/article type of post. If you are interested in the directions where mobile OSes are going, this may be interesting for you.

    Since 2011 I supported Windows Phone with all my heart but now, after 4 years, I switched to android. For the haters out there, dont think Im an Android fan now! I still love Windows Phone but there are few reasons why I switched to the android platform.

    The biggest reason, of course, is the app gap. I know that all the major apps are in the store but the quality just doesnt matches the quality of the App Store or the Google Play Store. I learned to live with it, just like a lot of supporters out there, but the fact that I cant get SnapChat or even a simple banking app is killing me. I dont need the latest games or hypes (although some of you may consider Snap Chat a hype), I just want decent support by developers who dont look at us like we are the retarded sibling of the pack.

    The 2nd biggest reason is the fact that I got bored with Windows Phone. Looking at the same interface for 4 years Is getting me depressed. With WP7.8/WP8/WP8.1 theyve added a TON of features to the OS but practically none to the tile system. Now you can add a background, resize the tiles and chose a colour pre-picked by Microsoft.

    The third reason was the breakdown of my Lumia 925. I listen music A LOT. And after 1 year of heavy usage my audio port just refused to work properly. After returning it 4 times (!!) to Nokia the port was finally made but due to shipping the phone so much a problem with my motherboard occurred. That was a game-over for a wonderful phone which I still love today. The speakers didnt work anymore and the audio port just said screw you.

    This caused me to loan a phone from a friend, who is a gigantic Apple fanboy. Yes ladies and gentlemens, due to the lack of no money I turned to the dark side and used an iPhone 4s for 4 months. And guess what? It isnt that bad to be honest. Yes, the interface is outdated and there is no way to customize your interface like you could on a Windows Phone but it worked. All the apps are there and iMessage is light-years ahead of WhatsApp or BBM in case of speed. Their music app really does work like it should and you have iTunes to sync everything to your phone while you use beautiful software unlike the Windows Phone software that looks like it has been developed in under 5 minutes. BUT, I still missed Windows Phone. The notification centre on Windows Phone is much better then on iOS and the keyboard is so much more pleasant to use. Its hard to explain but Windows Phone feels much more homely to me.

    So in the meantime, while discovering the iOS experience, I saved up for a new phone. And there I was in the shop, looking at a gorgeous white Lumia 930. On the left was a bunch of plastic Samsungs and on the right the iPhone 5S (since I live in Belgium, every phone you buy is off-contract. The only phone you could chose on-contract is the iPhone 5s/6). And when I went up the counter to ask for a Lumia 930 I saw a HTC one M7 lurking at me in the corner of the room. Since it is the older model they didnt bother to put it under a shiny spotlight, but it still caught my attention. When tasting the Android experience through the eyes of HTCs Sense 6 I discovered that Android isnt as laggy as people told me. In fact, it was as fast as my precious Lumia 925! So there I stood, a HTC one or a Lumia 930. My gut told me to go for the HTC. Why should I pay 500$ for the Lumia 930 if I could get the HTC one M7, which is a great phone, for 400$ AND I can run all the apps I want.

    This decision is the reason why I post this, maybe boring, article/blog. My opinion about mobile OSes has changed. I used to think that it was Windows Phone all the way! In some cases this remains, but mostly on low-end devices. This is THE place where Windows Phone can shine if the developers finally decide to support WP. On the mid-range market I would say it is a tie between iOS and WP. You could score a iPhone 4s or 5 for under 300$ on ebay and this would probably be the better choice. Due to the lack of apps it would be kinda stupid to go for a Lumia 735, a selfie phone, which isnt able to run Snapchat. I hope you guys see the logic in that! For the high-end I would definitely go with android since you get the most fun for you cash. If you spent 500$ or more on a phone, you should expect to customize everything and be able to run all the apps you want. Yes, if you have Samsung TouchWizz causes the OS to lag from time to time, but on my HTC One with Sense 6 I havent experienced any lag in the last couple of weeks.

    For the moment being Im still following Windows Central every day and still supporting the platform (like giving my old 920/925/830 to my family). Im excited to see what WP10 will bring and if there is a successor to the almighty 1020. Until the app gap doesnt close Im sticking with Android, but be aware my WP-loving friends, one day I will return!

    Greetings from Belgium!
    J. VM
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    01-14-2015 07:41 PM
  24. pwrof3's Avatar
    I used the HTC One for about six months before dropping it to an early death. Amazing phone. Android isn't terrible with HTC Blinkfeed and Sense. Widgets are fun. Overall, l felt it had a lot of lag when loading and using apps vs. iOS, but still better than the "... ... ..." of Windows Phone
    01-15-2015 12:10 AM
  25. matt john2's Avatar
    If only Sony make windows version of the xperia devices, windows phone is the clear OS to me, no more switching to other os if that happens.
    01-16-2015 03:00 PM
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