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  1. Geddeeee's Avatar
    MS will probably release more low end phones. They are a business, and that's where they are making money...
    Probably time for you to move on. It sounds as if you have already made your decision.

    Even if WP is ultimately doomed, I will be staying until the light goes off. It's still the best OS....
    02-01-2015 06:18 AM
  2. alex athanasopoulos's Avatar
    I totally understand you. I also have the L920 and i would like to find a Lumia that would take my breath because of its design and usability just like what happened with the 920. I would suggest you to wait and see the w10 preview and the promised flagship.

    Patience is a virtue
    02-01-2015 06:20 AM
  3. hotphil's Avatar
    "Promised flagship"?
    Hardly sounds like a decent choice of high-end stuff is coming. Just a rumour of a possible device.
    02-01-2015 06:23 AM
  4. Mark Baker3's Avatar
    I was waiting but have now bought a second hand 930 off ebay. Battery reports of them being rubbish do not seem to affect both my mates with them so figured id risk it. 1520 was the dream sort of but the phone is just too big for me. I'll get used to no glance I suppose.
    02-01-2015 06:37 AM
  5. dameon_03's Avatar
    MWC is next month if you can hold wait until then. You will at least see what they have in the cards. From what it seems no new devices will be released until W10 comes out later this year. I ordered a note 3 yesterday but I will keep my 920 and install the preview when it becomes available and keep my eye on w10 in the mean time.
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    02-01-2015 07:04 AM
  6. theefman's Avatar
    Now where have I heard this question before......
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    02-01-2015 07:48 AM
  7. UncleGrandpa's Avatar
    Just ask Samsung what happens when you put all your eggs in a flagship basket. Emerging markets is exactly where MS should be focusing.
    02-01-2015 07:51 AM
  8. srikanth reddy4's Avatar
    just wait for the flagship.Android phones looks good from far but when you start using them, then no doubt you'll be missing WP
    02-01-2015 07:53 AM
  9. thatdennis's Avatar
    Funny thing is I recently moved from a Sony xperia Z2 to a Lumia 730. I wanted to buy the 930 but thought the overheating issue is bad. So I bought the 730 and wow was that a good decision.

    So I recommend to buy the 735 while waiting for a flagship. Just like what I did.


    However if you're still headstrong in buying an android, I recommend the Sony xperia line, best Android phones out there.
    02-01-2015 08:18 AM
  10. carlson03's Avatar
    My thing with android is, everyone thinks they are perfect, they are not...I personally don't trust them with my data...Believe me, I had an android before and liked how much I could customize it, but I won't be leaving WP personally over the hardware. My L920 runs great, no lag, and all the features would be tough to find on new phones. Do Android phones even have glance? Not talking about Samsung's thing, because that IMO doesn't work great. GL on you decision!
    binnyandrews likes this.
    02-01-2015 08:31 AM
  11. Jazmac's Avatar
    You have to answer that question for yourself weather you should leave or not but I have to tell you, if you love this platform as you sound like you do, it will be the toughest decisions you'll make to leave and even harder to stay gone. This platform is like no other and even with the few shortcomings it has currently, its poised to be THE contender this year and the next. But like I tell anyone standing on this precipice, DO YOU! It is not up to us to decide for you.
    Something about this platform got you here and was working for you and running away from it as if it didn't really mean as much as you thought. It happens I guess. You won't find this on ios and definitely not on a google phone. But you got to decide for you. If a google phone is on your mind, go and be happy.
    02-01-2015 01:10 PM
  12. CSJr1's Avatar
    I just watched a podcast from pocket now. Never watched one before. M. Fischer was a real proponent of WP. You can tell he was frustrated, trying to force his excitement for the 830 he was reviewing. Also mentioned Office apps incongruity on other mobile platforms. While we are promised 'we haven't forgotten about you'. It's like a parent showing favoritism to another child, from another family. At first I rationalized it all, but that is getting difficult.

    If app developers dont see you supporting your own platform, how do you expect them to? (BofA,Chase) As someone said before; I am here and not leaving.

    But I have a condition. I need a flagship device with better Microsoft services than Android of iOS.
    The next two quarters are more than reasonable.
    02-01-2015 04:40 PM
  13. etad putta's Avatar
    I have to admit, things look a little weak right now. We have a bunch of promises but nothing to show for it. Buy a nice android or Apple device and check back in a year or so to see if we are still around. It's called freedom of choice. Good luck.
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    02-01-2015 10:45 PM
  14. wtf_aleks's Avatar
    ​I've been a huge Metro fan and supporter since the earliest Zune days, and even now with my 830, but I think what I am expecting to see out of Windows will never happen. Maybe someone can talk me out of switching to Android (after I see what the Windows 10 Preview is like on my phone).

    I've been working on a concept for WIndows 10 that I don't really even want to finish, because I genuinely want to see every feature I've included and I know it won't happen. My ideas expand upon MixView, pinned lock screen app, the comeback of hubs and extensions to support them (like AIM and Yahoo Messenger extensions for the Messaging Hub), and output via a wireless display technology or HDMI that doesn't mirror the phone screen layout but displays the Windows 10 start screen/menu as an adaptation for a larger screen. Maybe I'll decide to finish it sometime in the future.

    Microsoft is on an understandable path in supporting other platforms beyond it's own to the fullest, which is smart. That's where the people are. But the lack of support for us, the people standing behind their failing platform, is not acceptable to me anymore. Not to mention the seemingly constant drop of support from third-party apps and developers.

    Am I wrong to want to switch to Android?
    02-02-2015 11:09 AM
  15. xandros9's Avatar
    Do what makes you happy and fits you best. Try different things, experiment. How could you be wrong in wanting to, or considering to switch to something you may think would be better for you, personally?
    02-02-2015 11:18 AM
  16. Piratelooksat40's Avatar
    I have stuck it out as long as I can. Having worked at Microsoft for 17 years, and having a brother that is still there, the kool-aid runs extremely deep in my veins. I have had nothing but Windows phones. I remember the first Windows phone I got was an Orange test phone and used if for years, A Samsung flip windows phone and the Motorola one that looked like a blackberry. I then got a Samsung and moved to a Nokia 830 and now have a Nokia 930. However, I believe I am going to finally make the switch. This is really not a decision that I have taken lightly, but I am just tired of trying to fight it. I know that Windows 10 is coming, and this time it is really going to be the savior(Just like Windows 8 and 7 were before). But here are the reasons that I have finally decided to give up.

    • Apps! I am sick of seeing things that integrate into a phone that I know I can never have. For once, I would like to make a decision between hundreds of products and know that it is going to work with my phone, instead of looking for the 1 product that will work with my phone.
    • Music. Zune was fantastic. Xbox music is an abortion. I have waited years for an improvement. Why should I wait any longer?
    • Flagship phone: I went to the ATT store this weekend to look around. They told me they discontinued the 1530. All they have is low end Windows phones. Microsoft is not saying anything about a new flagship phone.
    • Bank of America: Bank of America is now killing their app. That was the app the broke the camel's back for me.


    Maybe all of this will be fixed when Windows 10 will come out. My bet is just like windows phone 8, it will come out and then they will have to add sme more stuff and tell people to wait for Windows 10.1, then it will be fixed or added. The best case is a year away. So I have a choice to upgrade my phone now, get all the neat cool features, then in a year when WP10 comes out, I can switch if I want to, or I can stick it out another year with my WP8, and be frustrated.

    Best of luck to everyone. I truly hope the phone gets to where we all want it to be. Hopefully, I will be back.
    02-02-2015 11:29 AM
  17. AluminiumRims's Avatar
    So after a few months with my Nokia 930 I think I'm going to shelf it for a while. Nokia 930 a great phone when it comes to hardware but I don't like Windows Phone which is simply too limited for my taste. Microsoft haven't implemented the features that I need and Windows Phone is not the Swiss army knife that other mobile OSes can be, which is really strange regarding how much money and manpower Microsoft has. So I've decided to go back to BB10 which is OS I have liked the best so far after Symbian which is dead. We'll see if Microsoft can get their thumbs off their **** and actually produce something that is more near the competitors, so I will wait for Windows 10 and see if it improves the Nokia 930.

    This however, doesn't mean I'm going to stop coming back to this forum.
    02-02-2015 01:47 PM
  18. Blkacesvf41's Avatar
    I don't like Android on phones. It's boring and just not on par with Windows Phone's user experience.

    I don't know about you but I'm not leaving WP anytime soon. Everything about Windows Phone is superior. The app selection is subjective. I find myself actually saying 'meh' to the Play Store. Sure there are more options but I didn't find the Play Store to be such a big advancement for me to switch.
    Lately I'm beginning to disagree with you. Though the app gap has improved somehow, I still see issues with this. The apps we do have are so basic bare and bones compared to their counterparts on iOS and Android. As much as I'm a Microsoft guy and love the OS, I find myself tempted to jump over to an iPhone. Android even with its latest version, Lollipop, is so unstable that I'd never touch it.
    02-02-2015 02:06 PM
  19. fatclue_98's Avatar
    I made the jump to a 6+ this weekend. As much as I hate to admit it, Outlook (Acompli) does indeed work better on the iPhone. AutoCAD 360 has finally been updated to be actually usable and CamScanner has also been tweaked. WP's version of CamScanner is still better than the iOS version but AutoCAD 360 doesn't exist for WP. I'm keeping my 1520 in my drawer for the day Windows 10 finally comes. I could sell it to offset the cost of the 6+ and the bottle of Preparation H associated with an Apple purchase, but I know I'd regret it. Keeping my fingers crossed.

    On another note, the Missus and I joined two other couples this weekend for some spirits and dancing. In the midst of all this tomfoolery, my wife's friend picked up her Ativ S Neo, which she had never seen or heard of WP, and just went right through it snapping pics, shooting video, uploading to my wife's FB account and never once asked how anything worked. I'm talking about a woman who still uses a flip phone. I thought that was impressive and shows the ease of use with WP.
    02-02-2015 03:05 PM
  20. Blkacesvf41's Avatar
    I made the jump to a 6+ this weekend. As much as I hate to admit it, Outlook (Acompli) does indeed work better on the iPhone. AutoCAD 360 has finally been updated to be actually usable and CamScanner has also been tweaked. WP's version of CamScanner is still better than the iOS version but AutoCAD 360 doesn't exist for WP. I'm keeping my 1520 in my drawer for the day Windows 10 finally comes. I could sell it to offset the cost of the 6+ and the bottle of Preparation H associated with an Apple purchase, but I know I'd regret it. Keeping my fingers crossed.

    On another note, the Missus and I joined two other couples this weekend for some spirits and dancing. In the midst of all this tomfoolery, my wife's friend picked up her Ativ S Neo, which she had never seen or heard of WP, and just went right through it snapping pics, shooting video, uploading to my wife's FB account and never once asked how anything worked. I'm talking about a woman who still uses a flip phone. I thought that was impressive and shows the ease of use with WP.
    This is exactly what am talking about! Not the first time that I hear that even the Microsoft apps are better on the other platforms. Believe me, even if I go over to an iPhone, I'll continue to use the Microsoft app ecosystem since am really invested in it. I love OneDrive, have lots of music on Xbox and use Outlook.
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    02-02-2015 03:46 PM
  21. WPmaniac4 25's Avatar
    I am thinking of leaving, tried android l, there are no reasons to stay on windows phone, it's really been holding me back and since u have office on android a substitute to google services, plus I'm a heavy youtube user. I am sorry Microsoft and Windows Central but I am leaving : There is no reason for me to stay
    02-02-2015 05:39 PM
  22. paulxxwall's Avatar
    I made the jump to a 6+ this weekend. As much as I hate to admit it, Outlook (Acompli) does indeed work better on the iPhone. AutoCAD 360 has finally been updated to be actually usable and CamScanner has also been tweaked. WP's version of CamScanner is still better than the iOS version but AutoCAD 360 doesn't exist for WP. I'm keeping my 1520 in my drawer for the day Windows 10 finally comes. I could sell it to offset the cost of the 6+ and the bottle of Preparation H associated with an Apple purchase, but I know I'd regret it. Keeping my fingers crossed.

    On another note, the Missus and I joined two other couples this weekend for some spirits and dancing. In the midst of all this tomfoolery, my wife's friend picked up her Ativ S Neo, which she had never seen or heard of WP, and just went right through it snapping pics, shooting video, uploading to my wife's FB account and never once asked how anything worked. I'm talking about a woman who still uses a flip phone. I thought that was impressive and shows the ease of use with WP.
    Hows the phone? Looking into apple as well. I've been using my fiancs iPhone to do alot that I can't do on my WP !
    02-02-2015 06:09 PM
  23. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Hows the phone? Looking into apple as well. I've been using my fiancs iPhone to do alot that I can't do on my WP !
    It's only been a few days but so far so good. Battery life is pretty good (about the same as the 1520), it's good to have a dedicated mute switch like my beloved Palms all did and the apps I mentioned above work as they should. A real bonus I never thought about missing on WP is the HID bluetooth profile which allows me to use a mouse and keyboard when I'm on Remote Desktop. UX-wise, I miss having the capacitive back and search buttons and the Apple keyboard BLOWS!!! It ain't got nothing on WP and the predictive text is an afterthought.

    I have a specific set of needs that WP wasn't providing so I switched. But I'll be honest, iOS ain't all that if it weren't for the app situation. If WP was even close, there would be no legitimate reason for leaving. The sad part is that the app deficiency is clearly more pronounced for business purposes. I can't wrap my head around that since WinMo was/is better than anything out even now for business/enterprise. I had a CAD viewer, PDF scanning and Network File Sharing on my WinMo devices, how sad is that?
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    02-02-2015 06:29 PM
  24. Vicky Krishnatrai's Avatar
    A question raised in my mind today that why shall I stay with windows phone? Looking no good features in windows phone but on other hand Android is working well. A huge app gape, Android have all microsoft featured Apps and a huge variety of Android OS device available in market. And in windows 10 for mobile is not looking so much good and no any ground breaking is coming in windows 10.
    So, now why shall I stay with windows phone?
    02-03-2015 07:59 AM
  25. Nogitsune Micah's Avatar
    I really dislike these questions. At the end of the day, you know why you shall stay or not stay.

    I'm staying simply because android is awful to me and while I love apple, I want a native experience for Microsoft services. Not just apps that aren't made for full integration with the OS.
    02-03-2015 08:03 AM
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