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  1. David Guzman3's Avatar
    Sorry I was just venting. Had my 1020 for about two years and waited for a successor to no avail. I had a great time with the camera capabilities but I am just looking for a fresh experience. Idk why I feel like im in rehab lol
    03-26-2015 11:52 AM
  2. David Guzman3's Avatar
    And I had a 920 before that too! Last 4 years defending windows to people that they're the best ๐Ÿ˜’ never had an android phone. Hopefully the S6 blows me away.
    03-26-2015 11:55 AM
  3. RumoredNow's Avatar
    David...

    If you have to go Android - go Nexus. Best update schedule and no bloat. Easiest and most widely supported Root and Mod. Look into Xposed Framework for easy and small footprint mods that change the UI. Maybe even get a good kernel upgrade like Franco...

    You might want to spend some time over at Android Central reading up on things... Your Mobile Nations Passport gets you in there on the same account you use here at Windows Central. No new sign up needed. Android Forums at AndroidCentral.com
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    03-26-2015 11:59 AM
  4. Paul1266's Avatar
    You'll be back mate. I was you a few months back. Got myself an HTC M8 running android as it had been a while. Still got it and its a lovely handset with awesome build quality but now back in the fold. Despite all the well worn deficiencies I just prefer this platform. Its the look and feel of it...hard to explain really. Enjoy your dabble and check back in when you return my friend ๐Ÿ˜‰
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    03-26-2015 12:02 PM
  5. theefman's Avatar
    You'll be back mate. I was you a few months back. Got myself an HTC M8 running android as it had been a while. Still got it and its a lovely handset with awesome build quality but now back in the fold. Despite all the well worn deficiencies I just prefer this platform. Its the look and feel of it...hard to explain really. Enjoy your dabble and check back in when you return my friend ๐Ÿ˜‰

    Irony is that look and feel is going away to be replaced with a more "conventional" look similar to ios and android. No pivots or hubs but lots of hamburgers and hard to reach menus. Should be a fun update! ๐Ÿ˜Š
    03-26-2015 12:14 PM
  6. jleebiker's Avatar
    In all seriousness, will be interested to see OP's journey with this. Maybe suggest a blog to watch or a stickied thread from OP.
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    03-26-2015 12:18 PM
  7. David Guzman3's Avatar
    I've been waiting on the Denim update which seems like forever, waiting for the windows 10 preview since I have the developer preview app. It's just been hella frustrating!
    03-26-2015 01:11 PM
  8. gpobernardo's Avatar
    Leaving WP is a good idea or not
    Tautology.
    03-27-2015 04:15 AM
  9. brat1475's Avatar
    I've been an on again off again Windows Phone user. I switched to Android on the legendary HD2, then switched back with the Radar 4G. Enjoyed the phone, however the apps and limitations at the time frustrated me. When no update path to WP8 from 7 became apparent, I switched to a Galaxy Nexus. Eventually went to a Note 3 and loved it for a while. Bought a Lumia 521 as a gym device and would switch back and forth from time to time. WP8.1 intrigued me again, was tired of the bloat, unsure of OS updates, and WP seemed refreshing. I took the dive and traded my Note 3 in on a HTC One M8 for Windows. The hardware, incredible, the OS, awesome. The pros, OS is clean and smooth. Good combination of official and 3rd party apps for most of what I do, great battery life. The cons, no banking apps for my banks, certain apps lack small niceties that their iOS/Android versions have, certain games I miss. The biggest frustration, wearable support. I am a Pebble user from my Android days. Things have improved a little, especially with the notifications app that leaked. It's nice to have my notifications back, and Pebble Watch Pro helps too. However, no guarantee the functionality for both apps will still exist with WP10. No smart watch really works with WP. Gonna checkout the Microsoft band when I see one in Best Buy, as cool as it is, don't know if I'll like it. We'll see when I check it out. I ramble a lot, but bottom line, I'm gonna see how WiP10 works out, but I unfortunately see my days on WP numbered. I love WP, but I want smart watch support, I want my banking apps to cash checks using the camera. Might switch to iPhone instead of going back to Android, don't have a warm fuzzie about Google anymore. Time will tell, bring on WP10.
    03-28-2015 08:32 AM
  10. PachecoCorporationCeo's Avatar
    I've been a Microsoft fan for awhile from PC/Tablet to Xbox to Windows Phone. My first and always smartphone was a WP (Samsung Focus) until recently I purchased a Samsung Galaxy S5. The only thing I'm leaving permanently possibly is WP. I'll still use my Lumia 830 from time to time or the other WP devices I have. I'll keep checking on WP here at Windows Central. This a goodbye for now. I'll miss that blue theme on my tiles haha.
    03-30-2015 01:53 PM
  11. binnyandrews's Avatar
    I've been a Microsoft fan for awhile from PC/Tablet to Xbox to Windows Phone. My first and always smartphone was a WP (Samsung Focus) until recently I purchased a Samsung Galaxy S5. The only thing I'm leaving permanently possibly is WP. I'll still use my Lumia 830 from time to time or the other WP devices I have. I'll keep checking on WP here at Windows Central. This a goodbye for now. I'll miss that blue theme on my tiles haha.
    Confusing sstatement.
    AAnyway good luck with your S5
    03-30-2015 02:05 PM
  12. C LaBelle's Avatar
    I've just about had it as well with WP. I had a 920 and loved the phone. Never had a problem hardware wise (battery drain was frustrating but a few tweaks and updates almost solved it completely) and the OS is really a great platform. I love the functionality of WP, in my opinion it blows any other OS away. There are features in WP that I find essential to my use (location based reminders, freakin awesome!). I just moved from a 920 to an 830 and I don't really have any complaints about the phone itself. I am getting sick and tired of not being supported.

    It's impossible to find accessories in a store (Best Buy sells the phone in store right there but not one damn case, screen protector, etc), and almost just as hard to find good quality accessories online. Buying online can be great but when you order a screen protector from China, wait a month, and then find out it doesn't fit it is frustrating.

    Apps. Why the hell can't we get support from major app developers? This whole boycott MS thing is bull. Yes there are great third party apps but when you don't get original developer apps people just don't want to come to WP. Period. Not being able to partake in certain event experiences, shopping deals, or certain features because there isn't a WP version app is becoming extremely frustrating.

    XBox Music. I swear to God if MS doesn't fix this pathetic excuse of a music service in Windows 10 I'm done. I'm done giving them chances. I'm done not being able to enjoy my full library of music because XBox Music says "XBox Music no longer has access to this song. Try searching the store for an updated version." Mother******! I bought the song from you! I can't sit here all day and "search for an updated version" on dozens of songs for updated versions! I'm sick of not being able to use playlists across devices, or even properly create a playlist. The music portion of WP should have been one of the cornerstones of its design. It's been a disaster from the start.

    WP has so many good things going for it but MS can't seem to bring it all together, which in turn brings the lack of support. One thing MS has gotten right is listening to the users. I've seen a few changes and additions come to the OS solely based on user feedback and suggestions. That is one thing I'll give them a thumbsup on. MS is running out of chances in my book really fast. Windows 10 had better be the game changer it needs (and I don't think unified apps is going to be it, that should have been done from the start) and has been made out to be. MS is behind, way behind. I'm tired of being behind. Sorry I just had to vent for a minute.
    03-30-2015 03:51 PM
  13. mj0's Avatar
    Like I've said before I'm done with WP. I love the hardware (even though the 830 is definitely too large for me) but the OS has managed to drive me nuts. One of my colleagues still had his old iPhone 4S that he didn't need anymore, that phone is now mine. My way has thus been iPhone 5 -> Lumia 635 -> Lumia 830 -> iPhone 4S.

    What I'll miss: The keyboard is simply superb, call quality and 2G/3G reception, LTE, Qi wireless charging, Glance is a nice feature and the 830's camera is simply the best smartphone camera I've seen.

    What I won't miss: Apps not running, being outdated or missing completely, random phone reboots, Wi-Fi hiccups, Internet Explorer (piece of crap), the 830's size, live tiles not updating randomly, the rather limited action center, crappy cut & paste, capacitive buttons not lighting up this remaining invisible most of the time, the worst music app I've ever seen, random increase in mobile data usage, the touchscreen not registering my taps properly (must me a software use, had that in both Lumias), missing either notifications (because the phone doesn't make a sound with bluetooth headphones connected) or phone calls (because the phone doesn't make a sound with regular wired headphones connected), and last but not least apps not restoring properly or getting stuck doing so.

    I've tried Android, I've tried Windows Phone, but so far I always came crawling back to Apple and iOS. I'll keep both Lumias around just in case but I'm definitely done. Right now all this didn't cost me a thing since they're all business phones paid for by my employer but I'll be moving to the US early next year and will have to buy a personal phone again and I know for sure what I won't be getting anytime soon ;)
    Last edited by mj0; 04-01-2015 at 11:23 AM.
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    04-01-2015 10:39 AM
  14. PachecoCorporationCeo's Avatar
    Confusing sstatement.
    AAnyway good luck with your S5
    Haha pretty much all I'm leaving is just Windows phone other Microsoft products I'm still going to use.
    04-01-2015 03:28 PM
  15. sam1902's Avatar
    Guys i finally switched to pretty old but awesome Samsung galaxy S4., i know its getting pretty old but thats what my budget allowed me to go., i also pretty much hated android like most of the windowsphone users do which can't be denied ., the experience on android is good enough to keep me in the android eco system no longer i feel disconnected i can whatever apps i want and i even discovered the games that i played on my nokia 6600 and N81 ., Yes i was a nokia fan and loved everything about. But as every thing is not perfect i didn't liked the design of S4 which a metal bumper will do for it another thing is a lack good audio codec support for android moliplayer is missing key features in android and now here maps is also available on android, as well as mix radio would be and the sad thing i wouldnt be returning to windowsphone anytime soon tired of the waiting thing and those who thing app gap is not there they are completely wrong there is a huge app gap in quantity of apps,their quality,features in apps and their update periods. But i had kept my old phone as I'm excited for windows 10
    So as it is always said that you can't forget your first love which in this case would always be a windowsphone.

    Posted via samsung galaxy S4
    04-02-2015 10:17 AM
  16. mj0's Avatar
    here maps is also available on android
    That was actually quite a shock to me. Last week a friend of mine proudly introduced me to Here Maps on an iPhone 6 and I was flabbergasted, to say the least. Not only did it look much better than on Windows Phone it was also easier to use (at least from my personal user experience), significantly faster in pretty much anything, free, and it does include free maps to download as well.
    04-02-2015 10:29 AM
  17. DieFrische's Avatar
    Today i ordered my i Phone, so now i am leaving Windows Phone.

    I really enjoyed my HTC 8s or Lumia 925 and some other, but with the Update to Win 10 i see no future for the System in Addition its ugly as hell.
    And the app gap after 4 years of using is very annoyed.
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    04-02-2015 04:47 PM
  18. RobinPaul's Avatar
    Well I cam back from Android. Had a HTC 8x before than went with a galaxy s4 amd now im back on my HTC 8x. Why? Cause i simply love the phone & OS. Apps are not really a problem for me, but oh boy how i mossed the live tiles and lock screen notifications.

    So I'm back to stay for good.
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    04-03-2015 01:47 AM
  19. Martsicky's Avatar
    Had an 820 since early 2013. Thought of switching to Android (GalaxyS5) or iOS (iPhone5S) but I've decided to choose Lumia 930. I wouldn't afford S6, and as I change phone every 2years it would be silly to go with one year old Android flagship. iPhone 6 is too expensive, and 5s is just too small for me. It feels like a toy.

    I've got the most important apps available here. I use m.facebook instead of an app. Lack of snapchat bothers me a little bit, but it's no big deal. :)

    PS.
    If I had more money I would switch to S6/iPhone6 because there is no flagship Lumia available.
    04-03-2015 02:21 AM
  20. WinU's Avatar
    I know that this is a fairly old post but I am starting to question things myself. I'm still on a 920 because I haven't found anything worthy to replace it with. Microsoft has been so focused on low end affordable phones. Where is the flag ship? I hope that changes soon with the 940 maybe? Windows 10? Are they going to allow Android apps on windows mobile? We have been losing apps and yes it has affected me. The Bank of America and Chase app were pretty big. A few other apps have pullled out of windows just recently too. No snap chat etc. People will say, just switch banks. Well there are like whopping 2-3 banking apps on windows. I'd rather switch phones. Oh and it's much easier to pull a sim out and test a new phone than to switch banks and time my bills. So please someone tell me why I am hanging on? What am I waiting for? Will it change? Will major apps like BofA come back? I have loved Windows but I really am about to call it quits. I will not go to the Iphone so that only leaves me with Android but I'm willing to try. I will hang on to my 920 in hopes of apps returning.
    04-03-2015 12:42 PM
  21. WinU's Avatar
    I'm very close to leaving Windows myself. I don't really want to but I've been waiting, waiting, waiting and waiting. Just wait they say.. Well it's been long enough. No flagship to be seen at this time and apps disappearing. What is really going on with Windows? I feel like there is nothing but rumors out there. Is 10 really a big deal? Is the 940 coming? I feel left in the dark. Why are apps leaving the platform? Some a big deal, some not. I am struggling to find a reason to stay. My 920 is great. It works great, but it's getting old. Camera is losing ground to the new phones and it's just outdated. My most used app. BofA is gone. and yes I used it ALOT. No I'm not switching banks, plus there is like a whopping 2 banks in the windows store. As soon as I can save enough for a Galaxy S5 or the new S6 then I might give one a try. I will definitely hang onto my Lumia 920 though. Just incase!
    04-03-2015 01:59 PM
  22. vp710's Avatar
    Understood! I am just curious on what is going on with this platform these days. Will big apps be coming back? Is there a big secret that no one knows? Or is it a dying OS?
    I had a Lumia 710 for a while, switched to an iPhone, then to a Nokia 1600 (yeah I know) which I'm ready to let go of. My wife just got a Lumia 630 that I've been playing with and I must admit the WinPhone OS is splendid. The lock screen, live tiles, app design and overall feel are all ahead of everyone else. Everything is so smooth, beautiful and helpful. It's a much better experience than iOS for sure (which I use daily on an iPad).

    So as I'm ready for a smart phone again, I've been investigating whether or not the downsides of the platform had been addressed. These were mainly:


    • The app ecosystem lagging behind.
    • The store being filled with crap.
    • Updates being pushed by providers rather than Microsoft.
    • Lack of flexibility when it comes to customization.


    Keep in mind it's been 3 years since I last touched a Windows Phone. Much to my dismay, only one of these issues have been addressed and it's the last one.


    • The live tiles and lockscreen are now very easy to customize and much more useful.
    • Updates are still pushed by providers and not MS/Nokia which I can't believe is still the case. This means users who like having the latest features their phone is capable of handling are left to hang and wonder whether or not they'll ever get updates. This also means there's no way to get a clear answer from anyone about whether or not your provider will push an update for you particular phone. It also means you may have to wait months before you get it (or not at all).
    • The store situation is even worse than it was!! It's become very difficult to find decent apps in the sea of abominations the MS Store has become. On top of this, it seems most good apps have not been updated in a year or more which makes me believe developers are just not interested in the platform which leads me to...
    • People will tell you the store has seen a surge of new devs and apps and use similar arguments to put the app situation under a favorable light but the fact of the matter is: the app ecosystem IS lagging behind and seemingly getting worse. There are still many VERY popular apps that aren't available for Windows (Snapchat anyone?), some have not been updated for years (Instagram) and I've been reading about devs abandoning the platform. If the state of things wasn't bad enough for casual users, as soon as your needs become a little specialized the situation becomes abysmal. As a musician, the Windows Phone platform just blows. I couldn't even find a decent metronome. All the major apps for musicians available on other platforms are missing from the MS store. Sad, sad, sad...


    Considering all of these, and even though I enjoy the OS much more than anything else, I just bought an iPhone (which I will jailbreak to try and replicate some of the functionality of the WinPhone OS).

    I don't think the OS is dying as MS is in it for the long run, but the only way I can see the situation get better is if MS decides to put money where their mouth is (developers developers developers): don't take a cut on sales, provide hardware, partner up with big names to finance development (at least in part), and also adopt a much more controlling position when it comes to updates.

    I feel MS is ruining what is otherwise the best phone OS around today. It would just be too depressing to own a Windows Phone as a result.
    Last edited by vp710; 04-03-2015 at 03:51 PM. Reason: grammar
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    04-03-2015 03:23 PM
  23. DieFrische's Avatar
    Just a curiousity, which one did you order?
    I ordered for myself an iPhone 5s 32Gb, i will miss the awesome camera of the Lumia 925 and the charm of Windows Phone.
    But for me Windows 10 is all, but not what Windows Phone has made extraordniarily and such ideal.
    The new UI is not beautiful and looks like a crazy mix from Android, iOS and Blackberry OS.

    but I'll keep my old Lumia 800 in honor, which was my first Windows Phone device and showed me to love Windows Phone and its uniqueness.
    04-03-2015 03:35 PM
  24. moirane's Avatar
    More and more I am wondering if it isn't time to let go.

    I have been in IT for around 20 years, I got my first computer in 1982 (A TI 99/4A) and have been in love with the tech wold ever since. I have mainly used Microsoft products since windows for workgroups and have staunchly defended MS as a company and their products individual for many years.
    I never really bought in to the Windows Mobile OS and was a Blackberry devotee until the Lumia 900 came out. I hadn't even heard of the new Windows Phone OS and was regretfully giving up on RIM and Blackberry after many happy years and was ready to bite the bullet and get an iPhone when my friend (who also was the manager of the ATT store at the time) gave me the new Lumia 900 to try before making any decisions. I loved it! I loved (and still do love) everything about the WP OS.

    Over the past 5 years I have moved from the Lumia 900 to the Focus, the 920, the 1020 and now am using the 1520.

    I am disappointed there was no flagship phone in 2014 but I can live with it and trust that MS will wow us this year. I am enthusiastic about Windows 10.

    However, I can no longer get into the debates with my Android or IOS friends and hold my own. I can't access my own bank from my phone anymore and while I can always use the Chase website, the ability to take a picture of a check and deposit it from the mobile app does not exists on the website. This is a deal breaker for me.

    I am thinking about moving on. Maybe an iPhone wont actually give me a communicable disease? Maybe I can get used to static icons? Could Siri really be that much worse that my beloved Cortana? (I can't even bring myself to consider going with Android)

    Talk me out of this? Into this? I am just not strong enough to fight the good fight anymore. I know this is the best OS out there but all the signs are there aren't they? The OS is dying and I just don't see any way to save it at this point. I hope I am wrong and I hope I can hold out a while longer and see but I may just go tomorrow and downgrade to the iPhone.

    Sorry for the post, not really sure what my point is. I am just sad that it has come to this.

    Ah well, it's been a great ride!

    Kevin
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    04-03-2015 03:48 PM
  25. peachy001's Avatar
    I have kids, and the eldest, a 13 year old girl, would follow me into shark infested water covered in chum. The only thing she wanted was "a phone like dad's". She got her wish. Although she loves the OS, she frequently gets cheesed off at the lack of decent apps. Specifically Snapchat and Instagram. She may leave in the next few months as her birthday is coming up.
    04-03-2015 04:09 PM
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