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  1. svtfmook's Avatar
    first, I am not new to smartphones, been doing them for a long time, from cooking roms on xda for windows mobile to, well, everything I'm doing now. I have all 3 platforms worth discussing, I have a moto x for myself, I have an iphone 6 I use for business, and I picked up a Lumia 735 for the hell of it to give windows phone my second try. my last attempt was when windows phone was in its infancy, I think it was still on 7.1. app gap and early adopter annoyances got me and back to android for my daily driving I went.

    I have had my 735 for, I don't know 2-3 months, which was 2-3 months of mental scarring. there's a lot I love(d) about windows phone, really, truly there is. unfortunately, there's a lot I just can't live with (or without). when I first picked up my 735, I was really impressed, the hardware was great, the camera, wow. the live tiles are still my favorite UI along with the seamless integration of core apps. I updated to windows 10 mobile....

    #1, the facebook app. ok, ok, I get it, I'm not a 15 year old girl, facebook shouldn't matter that much. however, it does. I run several facebook pages, for business and pleasure, the facebook app just does not cut it. I can't even use it for basic browsing. it's that bad. an app as widely used as facebook, should not be this bad on any platform. sure, I could fire up edge and browse on the browser... but... that... slow... loading... times... and it's buggy. MS should get off their high horse and let facebook design it.

    #2, no more lumia camera. the stock MS camera sucks. it does. I miss living images and the quality of the pics have seriously taken a nose dive.

    #3, app gap. yeah yeah, it's shrinking... slowly... very very slowly. now, everyone will blame the developers. no, you can't. from the start of windows phone, MS drove away developers. MS required developers to follow the metro design, which require developers to redesign their entire app(s), most of which did not fit in with the app itself. early users will remember the original facebook app had the metro side scrolling design. oddly enough, it worked as far as design goes, the app itself still sucked. so no, developers are not to blame for this, MS is. once developers said no we are not redesigning our apps, windows phone fell flat on its face from the start. less than 3% market share was not enough to attract developers back. and WP users are left with a market filled with knock off apps.

    I will say that some apps are very well done. my kids love the xbox games, and they are great.

    but today, I tried to share a photo someone messaged to one of my facebook pages on one of my community pages, it literally took 10 minutes for me to make it happen. I can't do it, I just can't.

    now, with that said, I have been using android as a daily driver for, I don't know... long time. kind of bored with it. almost pulled the trigger on an iphone 6s last night, then I remembered it was an iphone. my experience with windows phone/windows 10 mobile not working for me leaves me saddened. I wanted it to work out, I wanted to skip through a field of daisy with my Microsoft phone in my hand, happily. I wanted to giggle at a carnival with my MS phone as we toss popcorn at each other, I wanted late nights where we laid in bed reading pointless posts on the internet together. but, like my first marriage, I was left with a headache, an ulcer and the realization that I wasted a good amount of money... again.

    sorry Microsoft, I have to let you go, if it was meant to be, we will find each other again. maybe when Windows Mobile 11 drops?
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    12-08-2015 09:36 AM
  2. Landsharkk's Avatar
    I've been a huge advocate of Windows Phone for over 9 years, I've owned a lot of them back from Windows Mobile 5.x/6/x all the way to the Lumia 950 with Windows 10. However, both my Wife and I agreed that the Lumia 950 with Windows 10 had a lot of issues and so we decided to try out Android for the first time in our lives. After 2 weeks with the Lumia 950 she turned hers in and traded for a Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge Plus. It's same battery size as Lumia 950, but has the 5.7 inch screen. Size is slightly taller, but also thinner. I'm trading in my Lumia 950 today for my own Samung Galaxy S6 Edge Plus as well.

    First off, the issues we've had with the Lumia 950 and Windows 10 are, echo in calls, phone randomly restarted, apps randomly closing, sounds randomly not working when receiving phone calls or txt messages, odd battery life behavior, etc, etc. Basically Microsoft is selling a phone that is broken. AT&T charged a nice restocking fee when we exchanged for Android, but honestly I feel this is like kicking someone that is down, seeing as how no matter how many Lumia 950 replacements they would have given us, we would have had the same issues. Both our phones had the above issues and we bought them from different stores.

    What really irked me is that Lumia 950 is released with a beta/preview build of Windows 10. Having been with Windows Phones for so long I've come to expect solid experience from Day 1 with a new phone, but the Lumia 950 has failed to provide that for us and I don't feel too confident about how quickly Microsoft will push out an actual retail ready Windows 10 mobile OS.

    Then there's the apps. Android has all the apps that we use on Windows Phone, plus a lot more that aren't available on Windows Phone.

    Anyway, it's kind a bummer to leave Windows Phone, but maybe Microsoft can convert us back with a solid performing flagship phone, we were hoping for a Surface Phone or something that at least has an official retail ready OS.
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    12-08-2015 02:01 PM
  3. 9520G's Avatar
    Lately I feel the same, been on lumias since the first one and the 950 has been the most frustrating experience.
    12-08-2015 02:15 PM
  4. ramyZgHR's Avatar
    Sorry you guys feel like that. I can understand and I really don't get MS sometime. If there are people willing to test beta software, that doesn't mean everyone want one on expensive new phones! What is worse, they had enough time to make stabile and good OS since latest flagship.
    Anyway, I hope 10 will grow soon enough and Android will become frustrating to you and you'll cone back! ☺
    Good luck!
    12-08-2015 02:23 PM
  5. Nickkk101's Avatar
    Firstly, this isn't a post designed to provoke or inflame and seriously, if there is a better place for this post feel free to move it mods. I genuinely hope this post is of some use to those out there this holiday season who are sick of hand wringing and tossing coins.
    Back in 2010 I made a choice to buy my first smartphone with a touchscreen-the HTC Mozart running a new and exciting WP7 OS. I made this choice as a somewhat na´ve consumer to the tech market but loved the fact it was different, and absolutely NOT a damn iPhone. Today, almost exactly 5 years later I now own a brand new iPhone 6splus. And I couldn't be happier. I've been a huge supporter of MS and adore their vision and what they have done with mobile tech in these last 5 years, and really couldn't have asked more of my venerable Lumia 920- a phone that is still working as well as it did when I got that one 3 years ago. I'm writing this on my still excellent Surface 2. I still believe that MS's approach and their OS is far superior but within a week or so of using the iPhone (my first apple device apart from an ancient iPod)....it is night and day.

    Now, I'm going to concede the fact that my current joy is likely a result of superior specs to the Lumia in my case, but where I once feared i'd miss something? There is only happiness, and most importantly for me relief. I can honestly say there isn't a thing I'm missing about WP right this minute. So if you're sat there looking at the 950/XL as I was a couple of some days ago, and weighing up an excellent handset vs a potentially woeful Windows carrier support (EE) then I say this- stop wasting your time and change. I worried so much about app support, update availability, stability... and no longer have this BS to think about. It is liberating believe me. As a new father, I couldn't gamble that 'once again' support wouldn't be killed for a device I love, or for a service I rely on. YMMV. I hope dearly that there may be a WP to return to in 24 months time. Prove me wrong MS. I love the WP community and have received so much help over the years with my MS hardware on here so thank you to you all for that.
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    12-08-2015 03:21 PM
  6. Alfa Kapa's Avatar
    Well, no one will hold you hostage here.
    Whatever works best for you buddy, thankfully we live in a time that we have choices and we pick what suits us best at the current time!
    Make sure you'll check WC "top trending" posts monthly in order to get your dosage of doom and gloom that you'll certainly miss :P
    And always remember, it is just a phone! No biggie!
    Enjoy your tech fella!
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    12-08-2015 03:45 PM
  7. omerfbingol's Avatar
    I've used my Lumia 925 for a year and a half, enjoying -almost- everything about it. It got unexplicably broken 2 months ago, just 1 month after warranty ended. I couldn't fix it however I tried. Some third-party Nokia shop said it was a motherboard problem, and official Nokia (Microsoft) shop said it was a screen issue.
    You may think that this would be good time for a new Lumia, since I am a real fan of the WP interface. But that turned out to be a hard thing to do.
    You see, in Turkey, you can't purchase phones or computer products with your credit card unless you pay the whole price at once, no installments. And with the added taxes, even a $1 worth imported phone costs a minimum $100 tax (no kidding). For example, some $550 phone is sold for $850 in Turkey. Minimum wage is $330, so you do the math (spending power). And to top it all off, Microsoft doesn't really care that much for Turkey market as much as the Nokia did. Even though Turkey is a hotbed for Nokia and Windows Phone appreciation. That's because of the low spending power and high quality expectancy. Anyways, there are 3 cell providers and only one (Vodafone, so not really local) offers Lumia with 24 months contract, and they only offer Lumia 1320 and Lumia 630. No flagships, not even a decent phone... With a middle class budget, you can't buy a Windows Phone easily. You are forced to choose a crappy Android that's not even worth your money.
    But I'm determined, and sticking with my good-ol' Nokia 500 running the abandoned Symbian OS until the day I can afford a WP.. Thinking of a new Lumia 830.
    But if I do buy an Android, I'd prefer a Sony because of the boxy design resemling to the Nokia's Lumias. Because the cornered design was the major element of appeal for me. It was so different than the iPhones and Androids, which I call 'egg phones'. They all look the same. Some rectangular plastic crap with rounded corners. I can't either afford or stand by an iPhone. If can't buy a Lumia, then I must be able to personalize it anyway I want. I don't care that much for app fads and brand names. I do care for steady structure, simple UI and durability.

    By the way, speaking of the difficulties I've ran with my Lumia 925 are;
    -Not being able to use Eduroam (even my Symbian phone supports it)
    -Not being able to use some much-needed apps
    -Not being able to use Google services (I now they suck and I know that's Google's fault, but still)
    -Not being able to charge it while turned off (I don't know if any new competitions support this)
    -Not being able to switch between music tracks with hardware buttons (almost no new phone has this)
    -Not having a Micro-SD port

    And some awesome advantages:
    -Having a micro-USB so I can find a compatible charging cable
    -Awesome battery life
    -Buttery smooth OS
    -Sexy Nokia design
    -No floatware
    -No security vulnerability
    12-09-2015 05:21 AM
  8. Foxhound91's Avatar
    Hello, I am a new registered member here but I was following the website for more than a year. And I am making this thread to say that after 2 years of patience on windows phone, I decided to give up and switch to Oneplus (Android, SailfishOS,...).

    I went through the Lumia 920, 925, 1020, Windows phone 8, 8.1 and Windows 10 Mobile. But my patience has it's limit. Beside the fact that I was always waiting for what microsoft is announcing at it will be a game changer and finally seeing that it's just a small catch up with the other OS who keeps distancing Microsoft, my phone started to experience serious issues because of the OS. The mic stopped to work during calls, even if I cleaned the hardware, the problem stayed the same. The glance screen stopped to work. 2 times the alarm didn't go off and I was late for work. Delayed notifications and some text messages that doesn't show on after sending them.
    I performed a hard reset hoping that things will be better. It just brought more problems : Battery draining faster, Glance app crashing.

    I won't mention the app gape as everybody is admitting it. But I would like to add to that, the same app is better in other platforms. And to add insult to injury, even Microsoft own apps are better on other platforms. I would also like to take the example of Here Maps and Drive that are periodically shutdown from the store for some "Technical" problem and as usual, they are suggesting to use windows maps instead.

    And last thing : The video that shows how android is fast on a Lumia 830 which is not even considered as a flagship. That made me come to the conclusion that Microsoft killed Nokia who was making fantastic hardware.
    12-09-2015 06:32 AM
  9. jgbstetson's Avatar
    After 5 years, I'm ending my windows phone experiment. It's no so much the app selection but the constant os reboots and what I feel is an increasingly neglected product. In hindsight, I should've left long ago.

    Anyway, I just wanted to thanks to those who were polite and helpful when I ran into trouble with my devices. It was fun. Take care.

    12-14-2015 09:35 PM
  10. ShaneRay's Avatar
    I don't normally post in threads like this. I have no issue with them, but it's normally not my style. What the heck, though, I invested a lot of time and effort into Windows Phone....

    Today I've decided to move on from Windows Mobile and have a LG G4 on order from my carrier here in Canada: I bought out the remainder of my contract for my 830.

    There were a bunch of reasons, but the two major ones were:

    1) Apps. Nothing else needs to be said. We all know the situation and it either affects you or it doesn't. It did me.
    2) The 950s: Priced way too high here in Canada. I understand it's largely due to our dollar, but still far too much for a phone(s) that don't really excite me and for a platform , and OS, in which I have little confidence.

    But, hey, that's just me. It's only tech and there's no right or wrong here. Only choice.

    I'll keep my 830 updated to check on progress. I'll be happy to return if things improve.
    12-15-2015 02:14 PM
  11. ytrewq's Avatar
    I loved my Lumia Icon. I loved the phenomenal camera, and I really enjoyed the Windows Mobile OS. I rarely noticed a lack of apps, and the ones that lacked were not a big deal. When my Icon died last week, I really wanted another great Windows Phone.

    But alas, it was not to be.

    I'm on Verizon, and it's the only network that works well where I live. So, no 950 for me. I had been hoping that my Icon would survive until the Surface Phone surfaces, in hopes that it would have all the things that made my Icon great and then some, but it does not yet exist.

    So, no more Windows Phone for me.

    I ended up getting a Galaxy S6 Edge. It's nice enough, but not really what I want. The camera is a step down from the Icon, and the camera is the biggest thing for me. But my wife likes Samsung phones (she has an S5 now). So we decided to get me the S6 Edge with the expectation that, if the Surface Phone has a phenomenal Icon-like camera and other features, I'll get the Surface Phone and my wife will inherit the S6 Edge.

    My story, I think, illustrates the total failure of Microsoft on the mobile front. If there were a flagship Windows Phone on Verizon right now, I would be using it today. There are many others in the same boat. I am not looking to get into a debate about whether it's Verizon's fault or Microsoft's fault. For me, it really doesn't matter whether MS can blame the carrier for its woes; the only thing that matters is, I'm using a Samsung phone today instead of an MS phone because I can't get a decent MS Phone.

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    12-16-2015 01:48 PM
  12. mt1202's Avatar
    I have been with Microsoft on my phone since Windows Mobile 5.0. I had an HTC with a slide out keyboard that ran 6.1 and another one that ran 6.5.

    I upgraded to an HTC Surround, the first device on my carrier that ran Windows Phone 7. From there I went to a Lumia 900 to a Lumia 920. I have also owned a 1020 and a 1520.

    but my relationship with Microsoft ends today...I'm am getting a Nexus 6. I purchased the 950 but quickly returned it to Microsoft. The Nexus should arrive this afternoon via FedEx.

    WP10 provides little to no improvement over WP8.1. It is much slower and full of glitches. Microsoft has stopped trying to provide a good experience for their phones and I will not continue to do without out of principle.
    12-16-2015 03:42 PM
  13. Draganta's Avatar

    Been on Windows since HTC Touch with Windows Mobile 6.0, and today I made the switch. My bank no longer supports Windows 10 Mobile and there are no plans for supports. It is one of the biggest banks in the country.

    I love the OS so much, and I am not a fan of iOS but as soon as I starter using my new iPhone, I realised: I am not missing anything. Hubs? Gone. Cortana? Got siri. Here Maps? Got it too. Office and Skype? Better now! Tiles? Got weather, calendar and whatsapp on the action center like menu.

    I also can mobile bank now! Everywhere I want! And Hearthstone, Snapchat, app of my work, oh and Whatsapp updates so often. And Facebook works great! I can see stuff in subgroups like my universities and react on reactions!

    I miss the keyboard, glance and the beautiful gui of Windows 10 though. Always hoped that 8.0 would change everything. Nope. 8.1? Nope. 10? Nope. Such a great OS, but Microsoft is letting it bleed out. And Windows Phone will always be special for me! I will keep on following the progress and hopefully one day return. Really hope so. Good bye, and thanks for the great ride!

    *will keep my 640 XL to keep an eye on the progress of Windows*
    12-16-2015 05:55 PM
  14. cz9h3d's Avatar
    As a "techie", who loves to learn and play with new stuff (and my current job even requires me to work in the details of phones/cars) I bought a Lumia 925 to replace my work-issued Android/iPhone. I extolled the virtues of the unique and useful interface, and chuckled as Apple Carplay and Android Auto provided a lesser car voice texting experience that WP had built in.
    I bought a MS-refurbished 1520 a few months ago so I could fully experience WP10. It was wonderful, I loved my big phone, and the photos were awesome.
    Then... The ghost touch hit. Minor at first, a simple screen off/on fixed it. Now my phone is totally unusable. And as I've researched and learned of this issue, it appears as though I have no way to fix it :(

    Couple that with a USB input going bad this weekend on my main Android phone, and I'm about to embark on a Nexus 6p journey, and not look back.

    No longer will I stand out as the guy with the big weird phone. I'm leaving the fringe of the 4%, and joining the other team for good :( Why did you betray me, 1520?!? Why!?!?

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    12-18-2015 05:33 PM
  15. cane prevost1's Avatar
    Well, I went and got a Nexus 6P. I started out on IOS and had the iPhone 4 and 5. Went to Moto X after that. The Lumia 1520 was a great phone. Best phone I ever had. I love the form factor, camera, and screen. It's a beautiful beast. It would be my perfect phone if it ran Android. Windows 10 was a great improvement but I just ended up missing the Google apps too much. If Google and Microsoft had been able to resolve their differences and allow Google app integration on Windows phone I'd likely still be a Windows Phone user.

    Android Marshmallow on the Nexus 6P is really brilliant. Stunningly so. Really if I could mash up windows phone and android I'd have the perfect phone operating system....
    12-20-2015 01:29 PM
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    Been on Windows since HTC Touch with Windows Mobile 6.0, and today I made the switch. My bank no longer supports Windows 10 Mobile and there are no plans for supports. It is one of the biggest banks in the country.

    I love the OS so much, and I am not a fan of iOS but as soon as I starter using my new iPhone, I realised: I am not missing anything. Hubs? Gone. Cortana? Got siri. Here Maps? Got it too. Office and Skype? Better now! Tiles? Got weather, calendar and whatsapp on the action center like menu.

    I also can mobile bank now! Everywhere I want! And Hearthstone, Snapchat, app of my work, oh and Whatsapp updates so often. And Facebook works great! I can see stuff in subgroups like my universities and react on reactions!

    I miss the keyboard, glance and the beautiful gui of Windows 10 though. Always hoped that 8.0 would change everything. Nope. 8.1? Nope. 10? Nope. Such a great OS, but Microsoft is letting it bleed out. And Windows Phone will always be special for me! I will keep on following the progress and hopefully one day return. Really hope so. Good bye, and thanks for the great ride!

    *will keep my 640 XL to keep an eye on the progress of Windows*
    Nice points there!

    Just like you, I'm still having the 640 XL around just to be updated with windows 10 mobile. Switched over to iPhone 6s+ since early October. Not missing anything from windows phone at all. Tiles was nothing to me but only some sort of square / rectangular app shortcuts. I don't see how "lively" they were at all. I don't wait for them to flip over in order to read about the latest stuffs - I simply launch respective app and get information from them.

    Banking and regional apps are no longer an issue now with iOS. Enjoying Clash of Clans which is still missing till now on Windows phone. Like you said, apps are updated so promptly on iOS - Facebook, Messenger, Whatsapp, Flipboard, Instagram, MS Office suits, LINE, Here maps, Google services, Transport services apps, official Pocket app, etc etc.... I find that even the CityMapper app on iOS is so much better than Here Transit when I was on windows phone.

    Running latest W10M build on my 640XL. The user experience? "Meh" is the word. App updates are a nightmare on windows store -- all the Pending and error nonsense. Even the latest Facebook Beta app is crap as compared to the official ones on Android / iOS. To make things worse, the camera photo quality on W10M is totally rubbish!

    Am I going back to Windows Phone if W10M managed to take off in the future? A big NO. I will rather jump to Android than going back to windows phone. To make things even more gloomy - using Office via Continuum will require subscriptions to Office 365 starting next April. There is no more perks for staying with Windows phone platform. Glad that I have left this pathetic platform fast enough.
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    12-21-2015 03:50 AM
  17. cracgor's Avatar
    I switched about 2 weeks ago now to an LG V10. I had been with Windows Phone for 5 years (HTC Trophy, Lumia 1520, Lumia 640). I ended up buying a 950XL and returned it within 2-3 days because it did not support visual voicemail, could not support installing apps on the USB card, couldn't get emails to load pictures, had multiple restarts for no reason, and the back of the phone was creaking. The price I paid to beta test that phone angered me enough to open my eyes to the missing features and apps on the platform. I settled on the LG V10 because the camera is really better than the 950 in a lot of ways.

    My experience on Android Phone:

    The negative:
    1) There really isn't as good a function to read texts when I use a bluetooth headset. I never really used this feature except sometimes when running, but in general found it annoying and cumbersome. I do not use it to text and drive either.
    2) Waiting on an update to Marshmallow, but I have no problems with Lollipop.
    3) Battery is not as good as my 1520, but after 6 hours use I do have 81% right now.
    4) Playing music in my car is not as easy as it was on windows phone...though I'm currently using groove and have no music downloaded to my phone. Once I change this, I may have a different experience. The problem is just that it won't turn on the music automatically.
    5) Drive mode (that blocks phone calls and texting) is better on Windows Phone. ATT's drive mode app doesn't turn off correctly all the time since it uses speed and not bluetooth to turn on.

    The positive:
    1) Camera is phenomenal with manual controls for video, Laser focus, and better quality.
    2) Apps. I have a couple new apps that I use often and couldn't on Windows Phone like HBO GO and Xfinity TV/Remote. More shocking is how bad a lot of the apps I frequently used are on Windows Phone. Kindle is awesome on Android with built in dictionary and more functionality. Twitter, Facebook, Instagram all update more regularly and give appropriate notifications. Facebook in particular helps me by suggesting things to post and allows a lot of functions I was having to go to the browser for.
    3) IR Remote! That is awesome. I can control my TV, Cable Box, etc without having to look for a remote.
    4) Multiple window support. I didn't realize Android phones can support two windows at the same time. very useful.
    5) Apps do not crash when reloading them wiping out the information I was filling in. I cannot tell you the number of times I would switch to a text message or web page to copy information and when I switched back, the original page had blanked out.
    6) I have a clipboard that I can switch through multiple copied texts or images.
    7) Android pay is a good function and loads faster than my WP wallet experience. Plus I can finally NFC to pay.

    The surprises from preconceived notions
    1) I really don't use live tiles and think they get in the way of seeing my background. They are more cluttered looking than icons. They are less cluttered looking than widgets. Widgets are more useful as they are interactive.
    2) The notifications section on android is better than windows phone's and replaces live tiles easily.
    3) Android is not unstable at all in my use. I have no crashes.
    4) Windows Edge/Explorer browser is so bad. I have no problems really loading webpages anymore. I had so many before.
    5) Fingerprint scanner is much better than iris scanner. I push the button on the back of my phone and it unlocks as soon as it turns on...presto. I can even unlock the phone from any position. I have options to have a knock pattern, which also works well.
    6) A lot of stuff I thought was innovated by Windows Phone is the same as exists on Android Lollipop and maybe older. The one that really comes to mind is shrinking the screen so I can type one handed.
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    12-21-2015 12:26 PM
  18. dlcpa's Avatar
    My Galaxy Note 2 died two days ago and I needed to get a phone really fast. I like to buy phone through AT&T because it gives me one extra level of service. I thought I would be able to use my SD Card to repopulate the new phone but that's not so simple if the phone is gone. The SD Card repopulates empty phones if they take SD cards. The rest you have to do phone to phone with a wire and Smart Switch software.

    So, I have these 4500 Contacts that needed to be transferred, plus text messages. The rest is no great loss. Pictures and music were on the SD card but those could be used again. So, I uploaded all my contacts from my MS Office 10 Outlook (not exactly the same as the phone contacts because a few times I forgot to email the vcf file to my domain email acct) to my Live.com account. I was surprised to see that the Categories from Outlook 2010 were lost. Then I did the same to my gmail account and all the Categories were there. For me, with all those contacts, that is a necessity.

    I was riding around for two days with an old Blackberry 9850 that I never opened, just so I would have internet access with WiFi. Then I realized even if I wanted to, the BB wouldn't do any bank apps and I said forget it for Windows Phone for now. One of my concerns were the Contacts and keeping that integrity of categories and Categories never appeared in the MS contacts and then the bank apps and a host of other apps I use all the time (Bloomberg, BNA tax, love Google Maps, Tinder, Match.com etc.).

    So, I was actually for a brief moment thinking about an iPhone because I wanted simple and to be compatible with everyone I know but I have this thing about that company screwing over the US and I couldn't do it. Plus, with the beauty of how everything went through with the gmail contacts, I really didn't need Apple.

    I got the LG V10 because I wanted replacable batteries and an SD Card. I wanted so much to support Microsoft but I have no faith whatsoever in Satya Nadella and I think Gates and Ballmer could have done so much more. The contacts are now in my phone and sortable by category, they're on the free 8 inch tablet I got (not really free because I have to pay for the $10 monthly for 2 years). I'm not so sure that I couldn't have done better forgoing 4G and LTE and just sticking with Wifi but my contacts are on there too, sortable by category. I feel like a traitor but I needed to make a choice fast and with all the LTE problems MS was having plus AT&T didn't have the 950XL, I think I made a smart move for now.

    Plus, the Microsoft store near me is a kiosk in the Boca Town Center Mall and service isn't great. because it's not a store. Last night I was at the AT&T Customer Service Center in West Palm Beach where they took my SD card from my dead Note 2 and put it in the S5, downloaded Smart Switch onto the S5, using Smart Switch repopulated the S5 so that they could do a wired Smart Switch transfer to the LG V10 for my text messages which I needed plus there were some Contacts I didn't have in MS Outlook that were on my dead Note 2 and I was able to recreate them.

    So that's it. My fight with Apple and companies that inverted will go on but I will be rooting for Microsoft to get their act together. If Nadella does what Tim Cook of Apple did, by inverting I will be Microsoft's worst enemy. I don't think Gates will let that happen. I really did like the WP user interface. I think MS needs to talk to regular people because their CEOs can't relate to them and have no idea what they want. I have said forever, look at how Excel and Word never change, only the menus to make it hard for all of us.

    Good luck and I really hope everything works out for you all. Happy Holidays and Happy and Healthy New Year. dlcpa
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    12-23-2015 03:27 PM
  19. njnbat's Avatar
    I have decided to switch from Lumia 920 after 3 years usage. I think moto x play is a good option under 20k in India. Another option was oneplus 2 at 25k. Can anybody suggest on these options please
    12-24-2015 10:55 AM
  20. Magikal's Avatar
    Title says it all. So here's the story.

    I used windows phone since April 2014. The phone I bought back then was the legendary Lumia 520. I was tired of crashes with Android 4.0. And to be honest with you, I have experienced full tech reborn. The feeling having a phone with not *that* good parameters and getting it to work smoothly was a unique and unfamiliar experience to me. It was a breath of fresh air
    This year I decided to buy something better and I've picked up Lumia 640. In the beginning was good and then the problems began. I am saddened by Microsoft's policy towards its customers. I'll give you a few examples.
    In my country, Bulgaria, the official keyboard layout is BDS (Short from Bulgarian Darzhaven (meaning state) standart). It was developed back in the 50s/60s, the era of typewriters. The goal was to have quick, accurate and effective typing. The problem is that this keyboard has never been available in Windows Phone. It was on all other versions - desktop / tablet, but never on mobile. Strange, isn't it? Over the years, there were dozens of requests to Microsoft and just empty promises or no response at all. An experienced programmer will do the job in 20 minutes. Microsoft are blind to their users. They don't even pay attention to our tiny little problems. Now all these chicken have come to a roast.
    Another problem - the clumsy policy of updating. There were people waiting Denim update for months. We joked that when Denim arrived it was already obsolete along with the new functions it caried.
    Microsoft is always blaming the app developers. Then why outlook, onedrive, onenote just to name a few, are far superior on Android and iOS? They look better, they work faster and they seem more reliable than their Windows counterparts. Strange, isn't it?
    What about Windows 10 mobile? I see the same disaster and development hell as the development of Windows Vista in the period 2001-2004. This quote is about the developers stuck on Windows Vista at the beginning of 2004:
    By 2004, it had become obvious to the Windows team at Microsoft that they were losing sight of what needed to be done to complete the next version of Windows and ship it to customers. Internally, some Microsoft employees were describing the Longhorn project as "another Cairo" or "Cairo.NET", referring to the Cairo development project that the company embarked on through the first half of the 1990s, which never resulted in a shipping operating system
    Did you find any similarities with Windows 10 mobile?
    It would be ready in September, then October, then sometime in November, then December 14 and now - at the beginning of 2016 ...
    I'm sick of waiting for basic functionalities for months or even years. And for Christ's sake we're talking about screen rotation, landscape mode, keyboard layouts.
    Currently, Microsoft is an example of how bad marketing works. Actually there's no marketing strategy at all. Absolute disrespect to users, they don't value customers opinion. Slow work, slow progress, no advertising, no ideas, no nothing. They are doomed to failure.
    That's why I gave my Lumia 640 my sister as a Christmas gift and bought a Sony Xperia M4 Aqua. I hope one day Microsoft realize their mistake, if it's not too late. Until then they will continue losing customers.

    I've started this thread with no intention of bashing Windows Phone/Mobile, or any of its past or current users. I've had a fantastic time running it, I'm still keeping eye on it, still curious about W10M when it becomes GA. Let's have one great discussion with proper arguments. Fire it up gentlemen.
    12-24-2015 01:50 PM
  21. Dusan Randj's Avatar
    I'm thinking about switching to Android. No real upgrade for 735and getting really tired of MSFT BS.
    I will most certainly go with some older flagship, like LG G2, xperia z1 compact, Z1, and so on. Actually have one z1 compact on offer now for very little price over my 735. Very tempted.
    12-25-2015 11:15 PM
  22. njnbat's Avatar
    I have now shortlisted Honor 7 , oneplus 2 and Moto x play. Is NFC an addition worth it ?
    12-25-2015 11:31 PM
  23. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    I have now shortlisted Honor 7 , oneplus 2 and Moto x play. Is NFC an addition worth it ?
    I like NFC, since it is needed for Android Pay, which I use.
    tgp likes this.
    12-26-2015 12:12 AM
  24. tgp's Avatar
    I have now shortlisted Honor 7 , oneplus 2 and Moto x play. Is NFC an addition worth it ?
    I like NFC, since it is needed for Android Pay, which I use.
    I was thinking what Laura said before I read her response. I use NFC for very little besides Android Pay. However, I use it for that a lot. It is worth it for that alone.

    NFC is nice for other things like using tags for toggling settings or other tasks. I do that a little, but you can do those things by voice with Google Now as well, and it is more flexible than the tags.
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    12-26-2015 12:23 AM
  25. Austin Angus's Avatar
    I had a Windows phone for multiple years, a lumia 1520 then a lumia 640 XL, I loved Windows phone for long time. But in school I always thought I was missing out by all the cool games people were playing, the Snapchat conversations. I loved the love tiles and everything. I found a nice LG G4, I bought it for Christmas. I incidentally fell in love, the apps, the functionality. Windows 10 Mobile always had the "loading". Not once yet. I just finally gave in. Goodbye Windows users!! Thanks for everything!
    Also, I would just like to say. The Android OS just feels more complete, looks nicer, a lot nicer. Very colorful compared to Windows Black and White backgrounds. Even the Windows central app is better on here.... Windows 10 mobile just pushed me over the edge though. It's sad to go, but it is time for me.

    Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
    Last edited by Guytronic; 12-31-2015 at 12:48 PM.
    12-26-2015 09:14 PM
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