1. mrpuny's Avatar
    The 6p arrived a few days ago.first android and its a bit confusing. Some apps can be deleted others disabled. Some widgets are ugly as heck and don't update very well, good thing there's many to choose from. Settings are a bit messy, all over the place really.

    what's the purpose of having 3 home screens? Also, square icons are ugly, it looks kinda outdated really. But the phone is fast, smooth, gorgeous display and the stereo speakers are pretty nice to have, it enhances videos and games for sure. Overall I have not decided whether to keep it or send back. I do see what people mean by app gap though. Banking is much easier and so is using social media. Google play is huge but looks like alot of duplicate apps. Google was big help setting it up. A tech took me through the process. That said, as of now I still like WP better, so far.
    I can empathize with a lot of this. While you've gone premium with the 6p, I went low end (Blu Vivo XL) but it's been an overall great experience so far. The Mediatek processor in the Blu isn't supposed to be all that great, but I've found it to be be "fast and fluid" - no "lagdroid" here. But it's definitely different from Windows Phone and Win10 Mobile, and there are things about it that just rub me the wrong way. And really for the most part it comes down to the fact that it is different, and I would find myself getting frustrated about where a particular system setting was, or trying to get my screen laid out the way I wanted it, or figuring out some particular quirk in an app. Not that it's bad; it's just not what I'm used to. The funny thing is that the Blu Vivo XL has a kind of a funny interface as far as Android devices go. So while your Nexus 6p has stock Android, mine has a skinned interface that is a lot like iOS. (It's basically like iOS with widgets.) To me it's perfectly fine - I hadn't used an android device in a while while I do have an iPad that I use off and on, so I just accept it as is. It's fine for me. (I did try a couple of alternative launchers like the Nova launcher and Microsoft's Arrow launcher, but I wasn't particularly thrilled with them either, so I reverted back to the original launcher.)

    I originally intended to force myself to stick with the Blu phone as my primary for at least two weeks. I figured that would be the minimum time I needed to start getting comfortable with a different system. Really, I wanted to target a month. But I guess I'm weak-willed, and after a week and a half, I swapped my sim back to my 640. (It probably also helps that while I appreciate having access to a much larger app ecosystem, I don't really need it personally.) A large part of that was a comfort-zone thing, but there are just things about the aesthetics of Windows Phone that I like. Android has some really cool, but kind of odd features that I have mixed feelings about. For example, the Microsoft OneNote app has this little "badge" thing that can sit on the side of the screen that lets me take a quick note. (The Facebook messenger app also has some kind of similar UI element that I've had pop up.) On the one hand, this is super cool and useful, but also seems "off" - like it's some sort of tacked on UI element that doesn't really fit in. In a way it sort of reminds me of the little virtual sticky-notes that you'd get on GUIs back in the day.

    One of the things that I've discovered in all of this is a newfound appreciation for what non-Microsoft-centric reviewers must go through trying to deal with a Windows phone, or even Windows 10 desktop maybe. I mean if you're very used to the iOS or Android way of doing things, then Windows Phone has two strikes against it right from the start. Not only is it lacking in apps, but it's just -different-, and let's face it, for most of us, different is bad.

    It also has given me a new appreciation for some of the things the Microsoft team is trying to do with Windows 10, like with the hamburger menus and other UI changes to try to make the UI more palatable to the rest of the world and what they're used to. And for that matter, a newfound appreciation for what an existing Windows Phone user goes through facing even the UI changes between WP8.X to W10M.
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    02-18-2016 11:56 PM
  2. libra89's Avatar
    @Mrpuny : That's a very interesting perspective, thanks for sharing it. I have had my 5x for two weeks now, and I like it so much. While I like it a lot, there are some things that annoy me about it, at least in comparison to WP (which makes me appreciate it on Windows Phone/Mobile). Someone can refute my points, if there's something I can do about this.

    -Do Not Disturb mode, which is similar to quiet hours. It's weird to me that I have to specify for alarms to go off during that mode, or else they won't. With Cortana, she just does it.

    -Battery life, need I say more? People have said that this device has great battery life, but I'm starting to think that the people who said that are people who primarily use Android. I feel like during the day, I find myself thinking about if I'll have enough juice to get through the day. With moderate to heavy usage, I sometimes find myself having to charge before the end of the day. With my 640, if I put it in the same scenario, I wouldn't be running for a charger as fast.

    -Related to that, the fact that Doze (the battery saving sleep mode) doesn't work in the pocket, but it only works on flat surfaces is kind of a bummer. I have been seeking out flat surfaces at work so that my phone can go into Doze mode, but it's often broken because of what my job demands. I have been dealing with it, but not a big fan of that personally. (This is not an Android thing, apparently Sony phones have great battery life) With WP's mode, it has always just been in my pocket, saving battery life for me, thanks to glance.

    -The fact that the phone vibrates when put on silent is one of the most annoying things ever. Picture the situation of having my phone flat on a surface because I'm trying to let it Doze and then bam, it just starts vibrating while I'm serving someone. For reference, I also work in a quiet environment so this has been super awkward the times it has happened. I'm not sure what to do here. Again, I appreciate that this can't happen with WP unless I want to.

    -Ambient display reminds me of Glance, which is cool, but it is very random. Usually I find myself hitting the power button to see if I have any notifications since the display is so random. Sometimes it pops up and sometimes it doesn't. At least with Glance, I can always put a finger near the sensor and that would do it.

    -Finally, this is petty, but the fact that I have to pay for a YouTube Red subscription to play music in the background of my phone is lame. I have used apps such as Hoopla, and MixRadio before it shut down to make up for it. Having to adjust to ads for YouTube videos has been interesting too. I don't think I need to explain this lol.

    As for the apps comment, I think this varies on the person. I do use some apps that aren't on WP at all (Hoopla is one example), and some that are on WP, but are way better here, i.e. Overdrive (but on WM10, it works on edge like a dream)

    All in all, that's been it. I have learned that no OS is perfect and I have to be the one to decide if I want to continue to deal with this, considering that I like so much about it, including the fact that it just works, or go back to WP and possibly sell this (I hate selling, lol).
    Last edited by libra89; 02-19-2016 at 09:35 AM. Reason: Added some lines
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    02-19-2016 09:01 AM
  3. paulm187's Avatar
    Hi,

    I'm about to leave the microsoft mobile platform. I've been a user of the OS since the days of Pocket PC 2003 and currently own a Lumia 920. The phone has various issues now and I need to upgrade. I tried out the 950 but too buggy. The 650 looked nice but checking out the specs its not good value for money. I never thought I would leave the platform but I need a decent phone with a workable OS and a decent app selection. I will be switching to a Wiley Fox Swift 4G dual sim for 129. I hope this will be a temporary switch until a 'Surface' Windows phone arrives. I will continue to use Microsoft services and keep an eye on the development of W10 mobile. I hope I can return one day.
    02-21-2016 02:42 PM
  4. Tempest790's Avatar
    After many years with Windows phone from the Pocket PC era (I still have my iPAQ although it doesn't work anymore), I just pre-ordered a Samsung Galaxy S7. Specs look good except for the micro USB which is really pathetic on Samsung's part. I mostly use wireless charging now anyway, so it's not a deal breaker. I have 128gb SD cards so I'll just swap that right in when the phones arrive.

    I don't really care for Android, but the app gap is pretty much insurmountable for Microsoft at this point. I see people boarding planes, paying for parking, and much more using their phones. I guess over time I'll get used to Android. I'm trading in my wife's and my Lumia 950's by paying up the AT&T Next and getting the upgrade.

    I still have my Lumia 930 (international unlocked) as a backup. That was a great phone.

    I guess I'll be visiting Android Central more now. :-P
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    02-23-2016 10:47 AM
  5. libra89's Avatar
    Do what you must do! Also, the awesome of mobile nations really means that you just click log in and you're already set.
    02-23-2016 11:00 AM
  6. Giddora's Avatar
    Okay, thanks for letting us know.

    Don't forget to introduce yourself on the Android-part of Mobile Nations.
    02-23-2016 11:01 AM
  7. tgp's Avatar
    I primarily use Android for mobile, although I have various W10/W10M and iOS devices around which I also use to a lesser extent. I'm not a huge Samsung fan, but a few months ago I bought an S6 Edge for my wife, strictly for one feature: Samsung Pay. IMHO that is currently the coolest feature on any smartphone! If you've been wishing for tap to pay, you will have the ultimate tap to pay with your S7. Use it virtually anywhere a credit card is accepted.
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    02-23-2016 11:22 AM
  8. jeetu4444's Avatar
    I have been using windows phone and android together since years...thou windows is my primary device...currently i own Lumia 950 ds and lg G4 ...android phones i keep changing...have uses most samsung phones but after few months they all start lagging...best was htc one with best android...no lag smooth...now iam very happy with lg g4...i really liked the samsung edition of edge series...but as they removed sd card slot and removable battery i stayed away...now iam really confused about G5 or s7 edge...will wait and watch iam in no hurry...i have the best phones in hand now...will see public opinions and tech reviews of both the phones and then decide
    02-23-2016 11:29 AM
  9. chmun77's Avatar
    I don't really care for Android, but the app gap is pretty much insurmountable for Microsoft at this point. I see people boarding planes, paying for parking, and much more using their phones.
    Sad but true. Anyway, is a good choice with S7. Lumia has already lost much of its perks. With the Always-On display on S7 and G5, Glance screen is no longer anything special about windows phone. Furthermore, their cameras can easily outshine 950 camera imho.
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    02-23-2016 08:34 PM
  10. pinkbecca's Avatar
    I'm officially done with my 950 XL, I've decided to sell it today, I had it since December and I've been patiently waiting for my specific problem to be fixed, it's basically the horrible stuttering whilst screen mirroring and listening to the audio of the movie via Bluetooth headset, I've tried EVERY video player app from the store since December and none play smoothly, lots of lag and stutter, I can't believe my Note 4 plays smoothly whilst screen mirroring and Bluetooth at the same time, and the shocking part is the 950 XL is supposedly better in specs!!, so I wonder why the hell it can't handle this!
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    02-25-2016 01:13 AM
  11. midnightfrolic's Avatar
    Sad to see you go, but the time comes for everyone to move on.

    Since you are selling it anyways. You can try a few things if you have not done so already.

    Use Windows Device Recovery and restore it to factory. Set it up again and do not opt to restore from backup. Do all updates. Copy the video directly to the phone itself, not the SD chip. Try playing the video again using those apps you tried before.

    I have a 14GB 1080p MKV file on my SD chip. It plays fine most of the time using VLC. I am using latest insider build also. Latest build makes VLC unstable. Hoping for updates.
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    02-25-2016 02:30 AM
  12. renaisandi's Avatar
    I've been using android since 2010, and It's been a few weeks since I try windows mobile and surprisingly, I'm very satisfied with 640 xl, no lag, no heating issue, no crashing apps, fine battery life, etc. Yeah, I'm not getting tons of apps like in the play store, but I have all what I need :)
    02-25-2016 04:16 AM
  13. Captpt's Avatar
    I too am disappointed in all I've seen and read about the 950XL, I was eagerly awaiting its arrival since sept, MS screwed up both of my Pre-orders and now thankful they did(had the Note 4 previously also), I 've had the 640XL and presently 1520 thinking I'd wait until MS straightened out the 950XL, Win 10 and Win 10's battery drain issues has compared to either the 640XL & 1520 but I don't see either issue has been corrected to the point I'd jump in..
    Now I'm 99% sure I'm going for the new Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge when its released next week, it has awesome specs, SD card is back, increased battery by 1,000 mAh, 5.5" edge display which to me is the perfect size AND the S7 Edge is a TRUE flagship phone in looks, styling and obviously feel which the 950XL fell WELL short of.. Best Buy is even throwing in a Virtual Reality headset AND 64Gb SD card for free with pre-orders.
    I really thought Windows had me back :(
    02-25-2016 08:26 AM
  14. luisem1789's Avatar
    I can see Microsoft is working hard to launch new updates to fix the problems, we need to be patient for get a robust OS
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    02-25-2016 08:49 AM
  15. M4cc45's Avatar
    That's entirely the problem. The phone should not have been released until it was stable. I'd shoot the QA people as they're the ones responsible for loosing market share, etc.
    02-25-2016 09:05 AM
  16. theefman's Avatar
    I'd shoot the QA people as they're the ones responsible for loosing market share, etc.

    Too late, they've already been fired by nadella, now QA is done by unpaid beta testers via the "insider" program...
    02-25-2016 09:58 AM
  17. Krystianpants's Avatar
    I play full HD/2k movies from my SD card with no issues.(use movies and tv app)

    What firmware are you running? Are you on firmware 15506 and os .107?

    Have you tried the infamous hard reset with no restore of backup? Start fresh without anything carrying over from backup?

    If something as simple as that could help then maybe it will change your mind. And if not you should hard reset before selling anyways.
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    02-25-2016 10:00 AM
  18. Corwin_Amber1's Avatar
    That's entirely the problem. The phone should not have been released until it was stable. I'd shoot the QA people as they're the ones responsible for loosing market share, etc.
    I disagree. I, personally, am perfectly satisfied and love being an unpaid beta tester named insider. Nobody forces anybody to buy the products or be an insider, right? Or is that different, where you live? ;) ;)
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    02-25-2016 11:46 AM
  19. Martog's Avatar
    I'm honestly in the same boat with wanting to depart from the WP/WM ecosystem. I switched from Verizon to AT&T, got the 1520 to replace my Icon and that phone was great. I flipped because I was wanting the 950 XL when it came out so I pre-ordered it and everything, had it since day one, battery is all over the place, I had some serious issues with the Outlook mail apps and my office 365 online exchange and office exchange accounts, phone randomly reboots (it locked up yesterday on a FB notification). I dipped my toes in with the Lumia 822 and didn't like the OS at the time, got the 928 and flipped from iOS completely and stayed onboard. I really liked my 928 and Icon (despite the Icon's WiFi issues) but this 950 XL is just not doing it for me anymore.

    I've done two hard resets without restoring data and still have issues, I've played with Hey Cortana, Windows Hello, and other things to at least increase battery and it's just not doing it for me. I guess I could see if MS will replace the phone, but really feeling like a beta tester here and I'm fine beta testing stuff to a point, but I'd rather do it on a non-daily driver (I have a 640 I run early builds on) so I might have to say goodbye and pickup something like the Nexus 6P (Don't really want to go Android, but stock is better than carrier branded locked phones with seldom updates and not keen on going back to iOS).
    02-25-2016 12:57 PM
  20. M4cc45's Avatar
    I disagree. I, personally, am perfectly satisfied and love being an unpaid beta tester named insider. Nobody forces anybody to buy the products or be an insider, right? Or is that different, where you live? ;) ;)
    If you buy a product it should be fit for purpose. There's far too many people on this forum who have issues with basic stuff. Hell they haven't officially released WM10 mobile so why make a phone that's running the beta? They've lost massive amounts of market share and they're going to loose more by releasing something that isn't a stable enough product to be considered a daily phone.

    Notifications are essential and should work consistently
    The phones random heating up
    The battery drains
    Bluetooth issues
    Random reboots

    The above is just a few things I've seen on this forum. These are the first things you actually check when you're building something. If I built a PC and it had those problems I wouldn't use the OS. As I said I'd shoot the QA team.
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    02-25-2016 01:59 PM
  21. NokianWP's Avatar
    Originally posted by Captpt

    Now I'm 99% sure I'm going for the new Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge when its released next week, it has awesome specs, SD card is back, increased battery by 1,000 mAh, 5.5" edge display which to me is the perfect size AND the S7 Edge is a TRUE flagship phone in looks, styling and obviously feel which the 950XL fell WELL short of.. Best Buy is even throwing in a Virtual Reality headset AND 64Gb SD card for free with pre-orders.
    I really thought Windows had me back :(
    I saw the S7. And it looks like a decent phone. But that's the thing: It's just another piece of plastic and metal, that's going to fall on the wayside in 2-3 years.

    For me, it's boiled down to OS. I love my Samsung galaxy tab 4. But seeing the OS support (Samsung just pushed out the Stagefright fix about 2 weeks ago. I was surprised they even bothered) and the way the actual OS responds, I'm never buying another Android device again.

    Same thing with my iTouch. It's a decent device. That got slowed down by updates and butchered by iOS 7 and above. My 920 may be old and not as fast as it was, but it's still stable, fast enough, and ...idk. Appealing. I keep changing my Tab 4's design and everything, but it never seems to be more interesting for me. I've spent time on every OS, and I've decided I'm sticking with WM unless iOS or Droid up their game by a ton.
    02-25-2016 02:02 PM
  22. TechFreak1's Avatar
    I'm officially done with my 950 XL, I've decided to sell it today, I had it since December and I've been patiently waiting for my specific problem to be fixed, it's basically the horrible stuttering whilst screen mirroring and listening to the audio of the movie via Bluetooth headset, I've tried EVERY video player app from the store since December and none play smoothly, lots of lag and stutter, I can't believe my Note 4 plays smoothly whilst screen mirroring and Bluetooth at the same time, and the shocking part is the 950 XL is supposedly better in specs!!, so I wonder why the hell it can't handle this!

    Have you installed the latest updates?

    If the issues still persist then you either have a faulty unit or just a part of the few who haven't had much luck with their phones at all (not all phones are built in the same factory).

    Never the less, how much are you looking to sell it for?

    I'm sure someone in the Windows Central Marketplace would be happy to snap it up :).
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    02-25-2016 02:23 PM
  23. teiva's Avatar
    I bought my phone a few weeks ago and have had very few issues with it. The 950XL replaced my HTC M9. Can't say I miss Android. Currently on the fast ring insider program. Received .1004 yesterday. All seems to be running ok. Don't have the latest firmware installed yet. Waiting for Australia to get it.
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    02-25-2016 03:43 PM
  24. Captpt's Avatar
    I saw the S7. And it looks like a decent phone. But that's the thing: It's just another piece of plastic and metal, that's going to fall on the wayside in 2-3 year.
    I said the S7 Edge not the S7... Decent phone???? Curious what do you consider a great phone?? Absolutely not being argumentative but Really??
    As for 2-3 years, I'd bet 90% of smartphone users replace they're phone by year 3.. Me, every 2 years..
    02-25-2016 04:12 PM
  25. Mad Cabbie's Avatar
    I said the S7 Edge not the S7... Decent phone???? Curious what do you consider a great phone?? Absolutely not being argumentative but Really??
    As for 2-3 years, I'd bet 90% of smartphone users replace they're phone by year 3.. Me, every 2 years..
    Be cautious with a Samsung. I was an avid fan. But, and they are known for it, and are currently at the centre of a legal battle regarding one specific issue. For years now they dropped updates for a device after 12 months or so, usually when a new device is released. Having glanced over the case this began, in earnest, from the S3 on and eventually, most of the galaxy range. So your shiny device could end up stuck with an outdated OS in a year. You can't even go to XDA and flash a rom as you would 'blow' the Knox digital fuse, rendering a warranty claim useless as they wouldn't warranty it as you had 'tinkered' with it. Ironic in the EU where they give a two year warranty!!

    And then there's the bloat, which you can't ditch properly. You have to root. Then you can't use banking, streaming tv etc. Even 'hiding' root won't work for banking ups.

    Anyway, be cautious. The grass isn't always greener....
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    02-25-2016 04:24 PM
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