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  1. omgitsnick's Avatar
    What I've been eyeing for lately is the Sony Xperia Z5. Its premium build quality and endless app selection, but I want it with Windows 10 Mobile to get that 'One Windows' experience (Groove, Xbox, OneDrive are best integrated with Windows). If Microsoft can pull off porting iOS apps to Windows, I'd be sooo happy. The 950 would be the last chance I'm giving Windows 10 Mobile.
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    03-28-2016 09:57 AM
  2. glossallalia's Avatar
    After being with iOS for a few months, I am bored. There are no challenges like I had with wm10 preview to keep my interest and anticipation of the next update. With iOS it is what it is. I miss Cortana and live tiles. Also I miss glance on my lumia 810 which btw t-Mobile abandoned 6 months after introducing and MS also abandoned too with the wm10 update. But at least everything works I was also using my lumia 635 (512mb) after there were no more previews for the 810.
    03-28-2016 11:04 AM
  3. Aranya Tantu's Avatar
    After being with iOS for a few months, I am bored. There are no challenges like I had with wm10 preview to keep my interest and anticipation of the next update. With iOS it is what it is. I miss Cortana and live tiles. Also I miss glance on my lumia 810 which btw t-Mobile abandoned 6 months after introducing and MS also abandoned too with the wm10 update. But at least everything works I was also using my lumia 635 (512mb) after there were no more previews for the 810.
    Which os design is nice to you,ios or wp ?
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    03-28-2016 11:52 AM
  4. glossallalia's Avatar
    WP of course
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    03-28-2016 12:18 PM
  5. wgs84's Avatar
    After being with iOS for a few months, I am bored. There are no challenges like I had with wm10 preview to keep my interest and anticipation of the next update. With iOS it is what it is.
    Having a no-fuss no-hassle phone that just works without a whole lot of setting up could also be considered a good thing. I lean more towards Android because I feel it's the most powerful and flexible, but I think Android is only really good if you leverage all of its features and take the time to configure and set things up. I get that that's not everyone's cup of tea. And W10m, while good enough for daily use, still feels half-baked. I have 164 on my L640. Some will swear it works great, and I believe them, but for me, I get jerky scrolling, broken Rich Capture and Living Images, constant Cortana crashes, etc. Also, I think it's kind of stupid how certain system settings get installed onto the SD card, and they won't update until you manually move them to the internal storage. I know it'll get better one day, but W10m right now isn't something I'd recommend for people who just wants their stuff to just work.
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    03-28-2016 12:47 PM
  6. libra89's Avatar
    Having a no-fuss no-hassle phone that just works without a whole lot of setting up could also be considered a good thing. I lean more towards Android because I feel it's the most powerful and flexible, but I think Android is only really good if you leverage all of its features and take the time to configure and set things up. I get that that's not everyone's cup of tea. And W10m, while good enough for daily use, still feels half-baked. I have 164 on my L640. Some will swear it works great, and I believe them, but for me, I get jerky scrolling, broken Rich Capture and Living Images, constant Cortana crashes, etc. Also, I think it's kind of stupid how certain system settings get installed onto the SD card, and they won't update until you manually move them to the internal storage. I know it'll get better one day, but W10m right now isn't something I'd recommend for people who just wants their stuff to just work.
    You just described me. In my case, it's a good thing. Android seemed complex and overwhelming to me with all of the options. Especially ones that I know that I wouldn't use because I'm not one to tweak stuff. I change things like the background and theme (that's a WP thing), but that is good enough for me. Love the tiles idea of having a background. To me, that was the perfect amount of customization.

    I desire stability and having things work, which is why I tried Insider one time and that was a wrap. iOS and 8.1 is great for that. Boring to some, but I enjoy the simplicity. At Bat disappearing was a disappointment.
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    03-28-2016 01:15 PM
  7. Draganta's Avatar
    How so? What does the iPhone do that a Win10M device does not? No, I'm not trolling, I'm genuinely interested as I use my 950XL in-vehicle all the time and it does everything from navigation with traffic loads to real time tracking for loved ones, calls, TTS messaging, Bluetooth playback, with steering wheel control of music, podcasts or audible books.
    Mind if I join the discussion? I have been using WP since the HTC Titan, and Windows Mobile before. I was really a big fan, I even converted a few people too. But in december, I switched to iOS. The final thing that pushed me over to the "dark" side is because of my bank. It is one of the 4 biggest banks in my country, and their Windows Phone app was the best of all of them. After I upgraded to Windows 10, I could still use the app, but I did a hard reset, because that is usually better for the phone. Then I found out that I could no longer download the banking app. It said that it was not for Windows 10, even though it worked fine. After contact with the bank, trying to explain to them that all they have to do is tell the store that the app also works on Win 10, they told me they were not going to do it, because they hardly had any Windows Phone users, and the numbers were dropping. That is the day I bought an iPhone.
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    03-28-2016 01:33 PM
  8. Paul Stoner's Avatar
    I remember about 4-5 years ago when the first generation of iPad came out. Steve Jobs made magic happen for the world. It was also strategically positioned at the coming of Windows 8/8.1, which, for many Windows users it was a slap to the face. I had an iPhone, and iPad, wanted a Mac but they were too expensive. Then, Tim Cook took over after the death of Steve Jobs. Apple has yet to really and truly show anything innovative since then. Then Satya Nadella took over Microsoft, kicking out the 'good old boys'. We now have this massive innovation - Windows 10, great Windows 10 phones, the Surface Pro 3/4, the Surface Book, Hololens, UWP, the 'app gap' slowly starting to shift towards Windows 10.....

    I think it's actually too much too late. I love my Lumia 950, I love using it, but I see all these killer apps who jump immediately to Android, or iOS. Really, if I used the phone for just basic use, it totally kills anything on the market, especially the camera. But when I want to traverse some good mobile gaming, all the best titles are on Android or iOS. The developers won't even try! A few have started to, which is cool and all, but most have not. I am a Walking Dead fan, and would love to see the TellTale TWD games, and the TWD No Man's Land on Windows 10 / Windows 10 Mobile - even games like the Infinity Blade series, but devs just won't budge. Why? If it is as easy as Microsoft says it is, they can code their app using UWP in a VERY short period of time and can reach out to the Windows 10 Phone, Tablet, AND PC/Laptop platforms in just a few clicks and a few tweaks.

    It's things like this that are pushing me further away from my love of Windows 10 Phones and the Windows 10 ecosystem at this point - kinda stuck and don't know what to do. All my friends and family get these raging sweet games, and I have to look up and say, "I have a Windows Phone"...that statement tells it all...what to do....what to do...?
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    03-28-2016 01:59 PM
  9. wgs84's Avatar
    I desire stability and having things work, which is why I tried Insider one time and that was a wrap. iOS and 8.1 is great for that. Boring to some, but I enjoy the simplicity. At Bat disappearing was a disappointment.
    Oh, I agree. I used to have an iPod Touch 4th Gen with iOS 4 and iOS 6 on it. I loved that thing. It was a little strict, but the really nice trade-off was how utterly hassle-free it was. I never had to waste my time troubleshooting it or anything.

    It's really too bad about 8.1's abandonment. It was like the Goldilocks of phone OS, a nice compromise between iOS and Android. It was just right. I would've kept my L640 on it, but I really wanted the new Photos, OneNote, Edge, and Office apps, none of which would ever make its way to 8.1 phones.
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    03-28-2016 02:10 PM
  10. garak0410's Avatar
    I made the move from my believed ICON to the Note 5 back in October. Since then, I've really embraced multi-platform, having moved to Google Music/Spotify, Google Photos, Google Maps, Alexa for my Amazon Echo. That said, I do miss the simplicity when I was all in "Windows", even if I was missing out on some features and apps. But for now, I am sticking with my Note 5 and other multi-platform services until I see Windows Phone do a rebound. I do still fire up my ICON to keep it updated on Insider builds but it is now on the list to not receive them for now. So, I picked up s 640 to now stay up on the builds, apps and functionality.
    03-28-2016 03:00 PM
  11. mvierling's Avatar
    Going from Windows Mobile 6.5, then Microsoft scraps Windows Mobile 6.5 and creates Windows Phone 7, then Microsoft scraps Windows Phone 7 and creates Windows Phone 8, then Microsoft scraps Windows Phone 8 and creates Windows 10 Mobile. I've had it with Microsoft's mobile division. They alienate their longtime supporters and there are effectively no apps that anyone wants on Windows Phone ecosystem. I started with the Motorola Q, then BlackJack II, then HTC Tilt, then Samsung Focus, then HTC Titan, then Lumia 900, then Lumia 520, 1020, 635. I've now switched to Android and have any app you can think of and Microsoft's apps are better on iOS and Android than on their on OS. Microsoft's mobile OS is dead, run away fast.
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    03-28-2016 03:00 PM
  12. garak0410's Avatar
    I'm on the fence I really truly don't want to go back to Android. I will hold onto my ICON and use the latest preview that I could get. So far it's been running smooth. I'm going dread when I have to go back to 8.1. I would have switch carries, but 98% of my family and in-laws have Verizon.


    I know it's a step back. Verizon still offers the 735 on their website.
    I'm like you...I dreaded the return to Android from my ICON. And while at times it does feel chaotic, the added functionality of the Note 5 has changed my world and made me more productive. Plus, I really like the Amazon Echo and not only is there no Alexa app for Windows Phone, but the "mobile" Alexa site will not work on any WM10 browser. I use the heck out of it's SHOPPING LIST function, so that is a must have app. Google Photos is fantastic. And not to mention the wealth of other useful apps and yes, I do like the Samsung Gear VR and Google Cardboard apps. Plus, the Note 5 just rocks. So if you have to leave Windows Phone for a while until we get a flagship on Verizon, the Note 5 isn't a bad choice, if not the S7.
    03-28-2016 03:13 PM
  13. garak0410's Avatar
    Going from Windows Mobile 6.5, then Microsoft scraps Windows Mobile 6.5 and creates Windows Phone 7, then Microsoft scraps Windows Phone 7 and creates Windows Phone 8, then Microsoft scraps Windows Phone 8 and creates Windows 10 Mobile. I've had it with Microsoft's mobile division. They alienate their longtime supporters and there are effectively no apps that anyone wants on Windows Phone ecosystem. I started with the Motorola Q, then BlackJack II, then HTC Tilt, then Samsung Focus, then HTC Titan, then Lumia 900, then Lumia 520, 1020, 635. I've now switched to Android and have any app you can think of and Microsoft's apps are better on iOS and Android than on their on OS. Microsoft's mobile OS is dead, run away fast.
    Agreed that the Microsoft apps are very good on Android. I would use Outlook but it doesn't seem to sync my contacts well with the entire "Android System."
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    03-28-2016 03:17 PM
  14. Luckyshot000's Avatar
    Well, I've reached my breaking point. Microsoft won't allow my 3 year old 928 to be upgraded. There aren't any phones available or on the horizon that I would consider an upgrade, at least without changing to a carrier that is crap for coverage. There is no official release date for the HP phone nor do I know if it will be within my budget. The Surface phone may or may not be announced this fall and if it is, the release date will be sometime in 2017.

    I've owned a Windows phone since the HTC 7 Pro. I did a short 3 month stint with Android before I broke down and switched carriers to get the 928. Microsoft can't take a 2 year hiatus with no real hardware releases either by itself or partners and expect to survive....the 950 isn't going to cut it. If they had made it cross-carrier in the US I might have stayed with a Windows phone. Now I see no choice.

    Microsoft left me in this position and I have no idea why. I could understand holding off on new hardware while working an a complete software upgrade, but when the new software comes with a low-midrange phone and a 'flagship' phone with very limited release...why would a customer stay with them?

    Looks like I'll be part of the Android flock shortly.
    Last edited by Luckyshot000; 03-28-2016 at 05:00 PM.
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    03-28-2016 03:58 PM
  15. SvenJ's Avatar
    So, you moved to Verizon, to get the 928? From what? I would guess AT&T would be next in coverage, below Verizon, depending on where you live, they may be better. Can't see them being the bottom of the list. The 950 and XL are decent devices. If you are looking for an excuse to leave Windows Phone, or really can't leave Verizon, I get it. I have an iPhone 6s and a Nexus 5x, and they are excellent devices. In certain places/situations Verizon's coverage is legendary. If you would still prefer Windows, as I do, the 950s are decent and AT&T serves me well.
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    03-28-2016 06:27 PM
  16. JetFixxxer's Avatar
    So, you moved to Verizon, to get the 928? From what? I would guess AT&T would be next in coverage, below Verizon, depending on where you live, they may be better. Can't see them being the bottom of the list. The 950 and XL are decent devices. If you are looking for an excuse to leave Windows Phone, or really can't leave Verizon, I get it. I have an iPhone 6s and a Nexus 5x, and they are excellent devices. In certain places/situations Verizon's coverage is legendary. If you would still prefer Windows, as I do, the 950s are decent and AT&T serves me well.
    If MS and VZ would stop trying to see who has the bigger e-penor. Maybe VZ customers wouldn't be the ones that's affected by their little ******* match and I would have a 950XL.
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    03-28-2016 08:23 PM
  17. chmun77's Avatar
    Going from Windows Mobile 6.5, then Microsoft scraps Windows Mobile 6.5 and creates Windows Phone 7, then Microsoft scraps Windows Phone 7 and creates Windows Phone 8, then Microsoft scraps Windows Phone 8 and creates Windows 10 Mobile. I've had it with Microsoft's mobile division. They alienate their longtime supporters and there are effectively no apps that anyone wants on Windows Phone ecosystem. I started with the Motorola Q, then BlackJack II, then HTC Tilt, then Samsung Focus, then HTC Titan, then Lumia 900, then Lumia 520, 1020, 635. I've now switched to Android and have any app you can think of and Microsoft's apps are better on iOS and Android than on their on OS. Microsoft's mobile OS is dead, run away fast.
    Oh man.... This is so TRUE!!! Having the OneDrive app on both of my Note 4 and IP6s+, and they work like a charm. Files, photos and documents are loaded within seconds. But OneDrive app on my 640 XL is working like a snail! From the loading splash screen to refreshing of folders and files, to uploading / downloading of files, everything is just so slow! Sometimes, thumbnails of photos are not even showing! Using the app the just horrendous!
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    03-28-2016 08:36 PM
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    Oh man.... This is so TRUE!!! Having the OneDrive app on both of my Note 4 and IP6s+, and they work like a charm. Files, photos and documents are loaded within seconds. But OneDrive app on my 640 XL is working like a snail! From the loading splash screen to refreshing of folders and files, to uploading / downloading of files, everything is just so slow! Sometimes, thumbnails of photos are not even showing! Using the app the just horrendous!
    You are comparing two fairly new flagship devices (Note 4 and 6+) with a 640XL... how is that even a fair comparison?

    How about you buy a 20 dollar Android or try to use an iphone 4 and do the comparison again, I'm willing to bet you won't find the performance that much better.
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    03-28-2016 11:11 PM
  19. TuanLVT's Avatar
    i switched from my Lumia 1020 to Lumia 950 when it released and happy with it... and now i heard lumia 1020 cant get w10m makes me sad since i cant pass it to my cousin for better usage
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    03-29-2016 03:49 AM
  20. Ryujingt3's Avatar
    i switched from my Lumia 1020 to Lumia 950 when it released and happy with it... and now i heard lumia 1020 cant get w10m makes me sad since i cant pass it to my cousin for better usage
    Can you not get it unofficially through the Insider program?

    I switched from iPhone to Windows Phone to Android to Windows Phone again and now I have a 950XL. Even though it has issues, mainly due to the OS, I believe it is worth it in the long run. I saw the S7 Edge, and, whilst I thought it was nice, there's just something I cannot put my finger on that Windows Phone has that iOS and Android does not so no switching platforms for me. Through thick and thin.
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    03-29-2016 04:43 AM
  21. Joao Bento's Avatar
    Of course that I can put a music in one drive and listen to it in Groove music. and that when most I have Windows 10 PC is wonderful.
    03-29-2016 04:57 AM
  22. chmun77's Avatar
    You are comparing two fairly new flagship devices (Note 4 and 6+) with a 640XL... how is that even a fair comparison?

    How about you buy a 20 dollar Android or try to use an iphone 4 and do the comparison again, I'm willing to bet you won't find the performance that much better.
    Seriously, now you are saying that the comparisons are unfair due to flagships? I'm not even running graphics intensive games! How is that unfair for refreshing files and documents from onedrive if they are on the same networks? Does it really take lots of power to refresh files? Ain't suppose windows phone apps should be more efficient than any Android phones out there? Microsoft should really go back to their drawing board and redesign the apps for windows phone.

    If you still want to see a fair comparisons, watch this:



    And please, stop saying that the reason is because Windows 10 mobile is an unfinished products anymore. I can tell you, running OneDrive a budgeted Xiaomi phone can even outperform the 640 XL.
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    03-29-2016 04:58 AM
  23. Kevin Rush's Avatar
    Re: chmun77,
    Compare the specifications for each phone.
    I'll start:
    Lumia 640 XL
    $250 (Microsoft, March 2016)
    CPU: Snapdragon 400 @ 1200 MHz
    RAM: 1 GB
    Memory: 8 GB
    MicroSD: 128 GB
    OS: WP 8.1 (Official)
    Did I forget anything?
    Last edited by Kevin Rush; 03-29-2016 at 07:20 AM.
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    03-29-2016 06:23 AM
  24. chmun77's Avatar
    Re: chmun77,
    Compare the specifications for each phone.
    I'll start:
    Lumia 640 XL
    $250 (Microsoft, March 2016)
    CPU: Snapdragon 400 @ 1200 MHz
    RAM: 1 GB
    Memory: 8 GB
    MicroSD: 128 GB
    OS: WP 8.1 (Official)
    Did I forget anything?
    Note 4
    Available. Released 2014, October
    CPU: Quad-core 2.7 GHz Krait 450 (Snapdragon 805)
    RAM: 3 GB
    Memory: 32 GB
    MicroSD: 64 GB
    OS: Android 5.1.1 (Lollipop)


    Your point being?
    03-29-2016 07:33 AM
  25. Mad Cabbie's Avatar
    Re: chmun77,
    Compare the specifications for each phone.
    I'll start:
    Lumia 640 XL
    $250 (Microsoft, March 2016)
    CPU: Snapdragon 400 @ 1200 MHz
    RAM: 1 GB
    Memory: 8 GB
    MicroSD: 128 GB
    OS: WP 8.1 (Official)
    Did I forget anything?
    Lol!!!

    Completely INCOMPARABLE. Two different OS's, vastly differing price bracket and best of all, Note 4 will soon be left behind with support (official). Lollipop 5.1? Not exactly the latest and greatest. Ok, the 640xl isn't going to win any beauty contests, or (ridiculous) comparisons to 'flagship' devices.

    Let's look at the 640xl in it's proper context. In the UK, you can find one for 125-150 sterling. Show me a budget android device with a comparable screen size, ram and onboard. Whilst you are looking at the budget android phones, find one that isn't stuck with Jellybean or first release lollipop. Find one with the same camera pixels in that bracket. What about an android that now runs an OS that works, pretty seamlessly with your existing laptop, tablet or PC? How's about the 640xl's little brother, the 640. Buy it in UK for 49.00. Compare that to a low end droid? There is NO comparison.

    Whilst the Note 4 is a very capable device, I've had both 3 and 4, you cannot compare it to a 640xl. The Note is a device aimed at enterprise, the 640 isn't. If you are going to compare the Note 4 with a device, comparable in all areas apart from the screen size, you need to look at the 930. These can be picked up for 100 on amazon. This device is more comparable on specs than 640xl, apart from screen size.

    Maybe we could compare my 5.7" device??

    Mmmm octacore, liquid cooled, 3gb ram, 32gb on board, doesn't suffer memory leaks, secure, not open source, amazing screen, can leave my laptop at home and take phone and dock, failing that, WiFi direct etc, OR would that not be considered comparable. I say, each to their own, but if you leave then beat of luck and don't let the door hit you on the butt on the way out
    03-29-2016 08:01 AM
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