[inteller]

Another game I won't waste my time with...seriously how can this be much different than Asphault 7 which is XBL.

[Keith Wallace]

The game looks like it's got a bit of difference from its predecessor, but I'm skipping it also. I'd have bought it immediately with Xbox LIVE integration, but taking that out and charging the same price kills it for me. I've only once bought a non-Xbox game, and it was just to support a really-friendly developer. Without Xbox integration to give me something to chase, Asphalt 8 wouldn't ever get played by me, as I'm working on a load of Xbox-branded games on my 920 as it is.

Rather than blame GameLoft though, I have to say Microsoft needs to make the certification process 30 times easier.

[Deutscher2]

How old are you guys?
Play games for fun and not for silly Achievements.

[Keith Wallace]

LOL, as if there's a set meaning of "fun." I have fun going after Achievements. I guess I shouldn't ever go beat the rest of my video games because someone else won't consider them fun. Who cares if I think it's fun? It's what random strangers on the Internet are telling me to do that TRULY determines what is fun for me.

[Kellzea]

LOL, as if there's a set meaning of "fun." I have fun going after Achievements. I guess I shouldn't ever go beat the rest of my video games because someone else won't consider them fun. Who cares if I think it's fun? It's what random strangers on the Internet are telling me to do that TRULY determines what is fun for me.

Whilst that's true, writing a game off because it doesn't award points is a bit silly.

[stoneysilence]

How old are you guys?
Play games for fun and not for silly Achievements.

I bought into the Windows Phone ecosystem for the achievements in the XBox Live games. Otherwise I would just use an iphone or android phone for a whole lot more "fun" games than I can get on a WP.

[Keith Wallace]

Whilst that's true, writing a game off because it doesn't award points is a bit silly.

And I say it's silly to pay the same price for a game that takes out a major feature of its predecessor. I mean, chasing Achievements is no different than chasing an in-game item like a car. Racing games don't have great goals, so they're highly repetitive. Achievements offer an extra level of goals to change it up and add better replay value.

[MyNL822]

Isn't the purpose of life to achieve a goal? Therefore, am achievement. Why should it be different for a video game? The Achievements make it more competitive to compete with friends and show off. I would rather get credits to buy a prop but very few WP games give credits.

[Keith Wallace]

Ehh, my thing's not even showing off. I just want something to work towards.

[Deaconclgi]

Keith,

There are achievements in the game, just not Xbox achievements AND the whole point of most racing games, before the whole "achievement" thing became popular recently is to WIN, obtain all the cars and tracks and have the best times and beat track records.

For people who have played games before this Xbox generation, we can call it silly to write off a game because the achievements aren't labeled Xbox.

The point of the game is to race and win and look good doing it. Have you even looked into the achievements that are in the game? If you were honest about the problem being something to work towards, there is PLENTY to work towards.

Did you not play games before Xbox Live and the achievement system was created?

[WasteSomeTime]

Yes I have. But once I found out about achievements, that's all I have been focused on. Besides 90% of games out there feel like work. Might as well earn the achievements.

[jhoff80]

Let's not forget that it's not just achievements that are gone in the new one. The new one also from what I've read doesn't sync progress between phone and PC as far as I can see, and (again only from what I've read) doesn't allow true online multiplayer anymore - it only has online versus your friends' ghosts.

I haven't bought it to know for sure though.

[WasteSomeTime]

Wow. Way to take a step backwards.

[Keith Wallace]

Keith,

There are achievements in the game, just not Xbox achievements AND the whole point of most racing games, before the whole "achievement" thing became popular recently is to WIN, obtain all the cars and tracks and have the best times and beat track records.

For people who have played games before this Xbox generation, we can call it silly to write off a game because the achievements aren't labeled Xbox.

The point of the game is to race and win and look good doing it. Have you even looked into the achievements that are in the game? If you were honest about the problem being something to work towards, there is PLENTY to work towards.

Did you not play games before Xbox Live and the achievement system was created?

10+ years with an Xbox LIVE account. Yeah, I've played video games before the 360. I also played games with garbage graphics, but that doesn't mean I can't like new features and advancements and expect them to be present in games that are releasing in a new gaming era. Nowadays, Achievements and trophies are commonplace in many games, and saying it's silly to expect them is silly in and of itself.

[WasteSomeTime]

Out curiosity does MS take a bigger percent out of the sale of a game if its an xbl title or has xbl achievements in it?

[Gameloft_Ryan]

Let's not forget that it's not just achievements that are gone in the new one. The new one also from what I've read doesn't sync progress between phone and PC as far as I can see, and (again only from what I've read) doesn't allow true online multiplayer anymore - it only has online versus your friends' ghosts.

I haven't bought it to know for sure though.

Just wanted to stop by and clarify a few things. Like others have mentioned the game does have achievements, but at the moment they aren't XBL ones. The game also offers cloud sync so you should be able to transfer progress after it syncs up with our servers. Lastly, the game does offer true multiplayer by going to the "World Series" section on the main menu. This lets players join rooms based on their race selections and compete against other WP/W8 players. The option to race friends' ghosts is just another form of multiplayer the game offers but it isn't the only type.

[jhoff80]

Just wanted to stop by and clarify a few things. Like others have mentioned the game does have achievements, but at the moment they aren't XBL ones. The game also offers cloud sync so you should be able to transfer progress after it syncs up with our servers. Lastly, the game does offer true multiplayer by going to the "World Series" section on the main menu. This lets players join rooms based on their race selections and compete against other WP/W8 players. The option to race friends' ghosts is just another form of multiplayer the game offers but it isn't the only type.

In that case, I apologize for the misinformation.

[Gameloft_Ryan]

In that case, I apologize for the misinformation.

No worries, just wanted to make sure everyone understood what perks the game has (:

[Marlon Bu]

@Keith Wallace: Stop crying. This Game has Achievements. They are just not XBox labeld. But who cares?

[Keith Wallace]

@Keith Wallace: Stop crying. This Game has Achievements. They are just not XBox labeld. But who cares?

Expressing a dislike = crying. I guess you should stop crying about my crying then, eh?

[inteller]

Just wanted to stop by and clarify a few things. Like others have mentioned the game does have achievements, but at the moment they aren't XBL ones.

To even say at he moment implies they will at some point in the future...ive never heard of a game going xbl after being published. either it is or isn't please clarify

[Gameloft_Ryan]

To even say at he moment implies they will at some point in the future...ive never heard of a game going xbl after being published. either it is or isn't please clarify

Games can get updated with Xbox Live through content updates. I don't know what the Development team has planned at the moment so I can't clarify, but we are aware of how strongly the community feels about XBL features and we definitely appreciate the feedback.

[Keith Wallace]

Well, if it happen,s I'll buy it immediately, so keep that $1 in mind.

[I Spiritus I]

Cut the Rope for Windows 8 was re-released with achievements IIRC.

I like achievements, they add extra playability & I think they add to a game. Believe it or not, a lot of people care about achievements... take a look at TrueAchievements.com as an example. Nothing more satisfying than spending a couple of hours trying to get an achievement and hearing that pop!

Achievements are important to me Ryan too & are a deciding factor quite a few times if I buy a game or not. A8 being one of them! (Played both A7 on WP8 & W8, also spent quite a bit on ingame currency too!)

Off-topic but do you guys have any more planned for W8?

Cheers.

[supadryz]

I have a feeling this will begin the fall of xbox live titles on WP. this is not good at all. due to the rules & regulations which microsoft put in place for xboxlive titles alot of companys are boycotting & releasing non xbox titles instead. Look what happened to Chickens Can't Fly, Doodle Jump.

I prefer these games to achievements & will not buy any games on my phone without them.