1. Tyler Swindell's Avatar
    Ok, so I left my Lumia 920 to go to the Nexus 5. Because Windows Phones are too simple for me. Their UI is so basic. It once looked nice on a 4 inch 480x800 display, but I've used the iPod Touch, the iPhone, the Zune HD, Samsung Focus, Focus S, Lumia 920, Kindle Fire, HP TouchPad, Nexus 4, Nexus 5, Galaxy S III, etc. The thing is, Apple got a UI full of chrome on a 3.5 inch display, and we never had problems with something not fitting in on the interface. Screens went up in size, and now we got jokes for phones like the Galaxy S4 with it's comically upscaled UI on a 5 inch 1080P HD display. We have the Lumia 1520 which has 3 columns on it's start screen but lacks that extra in a lot of apps like IE where the address bar is the same percentage of the screen but now is huge and adds no extra functionality. Why are we limited to one button and an address bar?

    What's wrong with all those leaked screens of settings from 8.1?

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    They have no color or flavor to them.

    What about how all Windows Phone apps use boring grey or transparent app bars while Windows 8.1 uses vibrant blue app bars?

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    Windows Phone 7 Series had a vision and that vision changed and evolved with the new form factors we have today like the Xbox One or Windows 8.1. We have bigger screens on phones now, full HD displays, and we have bigger batteries and more efficient chips. We have tattoo backgrounds on Windows 8.1 that are animated. Just a much more polished UI. We've had the same UI for years now on Windows Phones. We finally are getting 8.1, which is like our 7.5 Mango that we should've had a long time ago instead of those small updates during 2013.

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    We really shouldn't be thinking 8.1 for phones is really Windows Phone 9 but they're keeping the version numbers the same from now on. Because we really aren't there yet. Windows 8.1 has much improved app snapping and with this, it is easy to show a concept of where things might go and should definitely go with Windows Phone 9. Or hopefully 8.1. All Windows apps including apps like PC Settings should be remade to also handle phone settings or any type of device settings and then fit the screen it will be running on. That way we can have one Modern UI, one app, that will work on all platforms all the same way but tailored to the screen it will be on. The same kind of live tiles, the same UI consistency.

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    A new more vibrant start screen for Windows Phone. We could have 3 columns too. I can't show that off though, Windows 8.1 doesn't do that.

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    A new phone settings app with a new Modern UI.

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    Bing will get an overhaul too.

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    IE with many more buttons and options as opposed to that screw-up we got now.

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    Mail with the app bar popped up.

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    Ok, so Xbox Music isn't very pretty in this but it could work if they enhanced the UI for it at this size.

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    The People app, a lot better now than just black.

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    Focus on the background, I think it looks a lot nicer than just black. Everything else is eh the way I took the screenshot.

    Ok, so Windows 8.1 lets you make things smaller, so if Windows Phone got that option. Here's some of that.

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    IE with things smaller.

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    Mail with things smaller.

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    Xbox Music looks a little better this way.
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    02-17-2014 12:50 PM
  2. abel920's Avatar
    Amen!

    And *in before the minimalist fanboys come flaming down your throat* you better run. But I agree! Thank god W8.1 is at least addressing some of that staleness from the Minimalist UI.
    02-17-2014 01:45 PM
  3. Tyler Swindell's Avatar
    Yea there's just no point to be so minimalistic on a 5 inch display.

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    02-17-2014 05:41 PM
  4. manicottiK's Avatar
    Screens are evolving/enlarging, but human fingers are still the same size as last year and our ability to accurately point at on-screen "buttons" isn't changing. That means that the on-screen buttons can't get much smaller while maintaining users' ability to tap them. If all phones were 5" or 6" inches, this would be easy. But there are still 4" phones in the market. Your renderings with 7 or 8 buttons across the bottom just won't work well on a 4" or 4.5" screen that's controlled by finger touches. (8 buttons is like 8 small tiles -- imagine a 4th column of tiles and using it on a Lumis 920. It would be impossible for most people to use quickly without lots of mis-taps.)
    02-17-2014 06:05 PM
  5. colinkiama's Avatar
    Im sure they'll probably do this in the future, but now we need to focus on getting features before we can start improving the look of apps.
    02-17-2014 06:21 PM
  6. Tyler Swindell's Avatar
    Screens are evolving/enlarging, but human fingers are still the same size as last year and our ability to accurately point at on-screen "buttons" isn't changing. That means that the on-screen buttons can't get much smaller while maintaining users' ability to tap them. If all phones were 5" or 6" inches, this would be easy. But there are still 4" phones in the market. Your renderings with 7 or 8 buttons across the bottom just won't work well on a 4" or 4.5" screen that's controlled by finger touches. (8 buttons is like 8 small tiles -- imagine a 4th column of tiles and using it on a Lumis 920. It would be impossible for most people to use quickly without lots of mis-taps.)
    Yea and if we're gonna have an OS that runs on phablets and 7-8 inch tablets, and soon maybe the Surface 2, then we need something that adapts to the exact form factor. Microsoft is all about capturing the low-end market. But what about the high-end like the 1520? Have you seen the review where they talked about basically everything sized up. Its not what somebody in the market looking for a phablet wants.

    And I think you're worrying too much about hitting buttons on a screen. Have you used an iPhone 4 before? iPhones used to have 3.5 inch low-resolution displays. The current minimalistic UI may work well on a Samsung Focus or a Lumia 520, even the HTC 8X with a 4.3 inch 720p display. But something like the Lumia 920 or 1020 should have a Windows 8 style Modern UI. The 1520 needs a phablet UI if we aren't getting a new UI for smaller devices.

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    02-17-2014 08:19 PM
  7. neonspark's Avatar
    I kind of like it. in particular it looks fresh and new which 2011 styled windows phone doesn't. if anything I'd say they should do it regardless of it not addressing the issues they face around usability of metro but because it looks NEW. And maybe, the key to convincing the basically 90% of people that saw windows phone and rejected it, is to change it drastically.
    02-18-2014 06:17 AM
  8. untitled007's Avatar
    02-18-2014 06:32 AM
  9. Stephen Yanq's Avatar
    That's absolutely gorgeous.
    01-03-2015 10:02 AM

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