01-04-2017 05:35 AM
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  1. paulxxwall's Avatar
    Sorry but what are you talking about? You don't need any setup for continuum to work. It just works. It's almost like you have no clue how continuum works.
    Ok try it on one any aftermarket head unit with hdmi and see! These head units don't have the processing power of pc . I'm mecp certified gold! Tested just about every brand touch screen out there! I've been at this for a very very long time sometime what supposed to work doesn't ! So if you have a wp with continuum ... And an hdmi head unit try it and let us know how that panned out!
    01-20-2016 09:31 AM
  2. paulxxwall's Avatar
    Sorry but what are you talking about? You don't need any setup for continuum to work. It just works. It's almost like you have no clue how continuum works.
    Oh and when you are having issues ...nether party will be updating to address the problems . Awesome huh?
    01-20-2016 09:35 AM
  3. MaulerX's Avatar
    Ok try it on one any aftermarket head unit with hdmi and see! These head units don't have the processing power of pc . I'm mecp certified gold! Tested just about every brand touch screen out there! I've been at this for a very very long time sometime what supposed to work doesn't ! So if you have a wp with continuum ... And an hdmi head unit try it and let us know how that panned out!
    Dude...really?? The head units don't need any processing power at all. You are simply using them as monitors. Your phone is doing all the work because that's how continuum works. You just proved you don't know anything about continuum and how it works.
    01-20-2016 10:40 AM
  4. MaulerX's Avatar
    The experience would be awful, but because you'd be trying to use desktop-class apps on a car headunit, which is a recipe for disaster.

    Honestly, Microsoft needs a dedicated car mode. Something that drastically simplifies the interface akin to what they showed in their concept two years ago. I don't see Continuum as it currently exists being that solution.

    Also, the big problem is that Microsoft has less pull in the auto world than they ever have. Even Ford's Sync has switched to QNX instead of Windows Embedded Automotive. So Microsoft's solution needs to be standards-based. I think Mirrorlink is the best chance they have, but even that isn't exactly ubiquitous.
    How exactly would the experience be "aweful". Desktop class apps? Continuum has different modes and one of them is to simply mirror what's on your phone screen. I don't see what's so horrible in that. Hyperbole much?

    Besides, WC even had an article recently talking about continuum being used with your car. And in a previous post I did say it would be nice if Microsoft had a Mirrorlink app. It's just that continuum is what we happen to have NOW. I think it's funny I'm being attacked for suggesting something that will indeed work, especially by that other guy who obviously doesn't know jack because he thinks that your radio must have some processing power for continuum to work. But whatever.

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    Last edited by MaulerX; 01-20-2016 at 11:22 AM.
    01-20-2016 11:03 AM
  5. paulxxwall's Avatar
    How exactly would the experience be "aweful". Desktop class apps? Continuum has different modes and one of them is to simply mirror what's on your phone screen. I don't see what's so horrible in that. Hyperbole much?

    Besides, WC even had an article recently talking about continuum being used with your car. And in a previous post I did say it would be nice if Microsoft had a Mirrorlink app. It's just that continuum is what we happen to have NOW. I think it's funny I'm being attacked for suggesting something that will indeed work, especially by that other guy who obviously doesn't know jack because he thinks that your radio must have some processing power for continuum to work. But whatever.

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    Bud no ones bashing . I work in 12 volt everyday you may know more than me on " continuum" but I know all there is to know about car audio! Mirror link has issues with certain phones that are set up to work with it, Microsoft has had the worst experience with in car entertainment. With ms history in cars .... Any ones bet will say it won't work.maybe just as a mirror but no functionality . May have not studied continuum but have countless hours studying car audio.
    I've actually passed this thru the 12 volt forums and all have said although would be nice feature probably won't work and if it does it won't work well not until manufactor of in dashes implement continuum in them
    01-20-2016 12:38 PM
  6. paulxxwall's Avatar
    I would love for wp to have a presence in 12 volt one day ! My first real smartphone was a wp!
    01-20-2016 12:41 PM
  7. adamx98's Avatar
    So, here's my take on it. Sure, the processing power is a non-issue. That's all done onboard on the phone and passed through the "puck" out the HDMI cable. The car's display would literally just be a display device/monitor. The problem there would be that it would be ONLY that. Like, it would be on the phone "channel" and not able to display any other car data or info. So you'd lose potentially a ton of functionality.

    Secondly, yes.. it acts like a desktop, but at the crappy resolutions those screens have? Yeah, I don't want a desktop experience on that kind of display. I'm going to label this idea (at least, as it stands currently by MS's implementation) as "spandex". That is to say, just because you "can" doesn't mean you "should". :).

    For what it's worth, I've been a loyal WP fan for many years. Took delivery of my '16 Passat last night and my phone is almost useless with it. I am now using a friend's Nexus 5. Plugged it in to the car and boom... worked like a dream. It even read Skype messages aloud to me while I was driving! That's something I was praying for Cortana to be able to do with WP. I mean... C'mon. It's Microsoft's own products! Why couldn't that work even if I was just running an aux cable to my headunit (gave up on getting BT pairing to work w/Cortana in an easy way).

    MS needs to seriously step up their game in the automotive space.
    01-20-2016 03:36 PM
  8. MaulerX's Avatar
    Bud no ones bashing . I work in 12 volt everyday you may know more than me on " continuum" but I know all there is to know about car audio! Mirror link has issues with certain phones that are set up to work with it, Microsoft has had the worst experience with in car entertainment. With ms history in cars .... Any ones bet will say it won't work.maybe just as a mirror but no functionality . May have not studied continuum but have countless hours studying car audio.
    I've actually passed this thru the 12 volt forums and all have said although would be nice feature probably won't work and if it does it won't work well not until manufactor of in dashes implement continuum in them

    You keep repeating the same misinformation. You claim to "know everything about car audio" which is fine and dandy except you don't you don't know about anything else at least as it pertains to the discussion at hand. There is no need for anyone to "implement" continuum into the radios/head units. That's not how it works. Let me ask you this: How in the world do you think continuum works right this very moment? Do you think that every monitor out there comes pre-loaded with some sort of continuum pixie-dust that enables it?
    01-20-2016 05:31 PM
  9. paulxxwall's Avatar
    You keep repeating the same misinformation. You claim to "know everything about car audio" which is fine and dandy except you don't you don't know about anything else at least as it pertains to the discussion at hand. There is no need for anyone to "implement" continuum into the radios/head units. That's not how it works. Let me ask you this: How in the world do you think continuum works right this very moment? Do you think that every monitor out there comes pre-loaded with some sort of continuum pixie-dust that enables it?
    The discussion is if car manufacturers, 12 volt aftermarket head unit manufactures will have support for mirro link which alow to mirror and be able to operate and access functions from the phone on screen. From my last kenwood jvc training neither are interested as its all about car play and android auto . Mirror link that has been out for a while now still work poorly but this new " continuum" will work great? It may mirror but like I and most have said it will look horrible and on mirror no onscreen functionality . Not the same as either mirror link car play or android auto . It's not misinformation.
    01-20-2016 09:51 PM
  10. p51mustang's Avatar
    The discussion is if car manufacturers, 12 volt aftermarket head unit manufactures will have support for mirro link ...
    Well, the discussion is if Windows (10) Mobile will have Mirrorlink capability, not just with aftermarket head units, but with the OEM units installed by the car manufacturers. My 2016 Jetta is capable of using Mirrorlink, Apple's Car Play and Android Auto. So VW has taken the trouble to integrate all three main automotive communication protocols out there, yet (BT aside) I still cannot use any of them with my Lumia 950 running the latest W10M OS.

    To think that Microsoft thinks this is acceptable is rediculous!
    01-20-2016 11:09 PM
  11. paulxxwall's Avatar
    Well, the discussion is if Windows (10) Mobile will have Mirrorlink capability, not just with aftermarket head units, but with the OEM units installed by the car manufacturers. My 2016 Jetta is capable of using Mirrorlink, Apple's Car Play and Android Auto. So VW has taken the trouble to integrate all three main automotive communication protocols out there, yet (BT aside) I still cannot use any of them with my Lumia 950 running the latest W10M OS.

    To think that Microsoft thinks this is acceptable is rediculous!
    Well like I've been saying and now we have a 950 owner , with a new car with mirror link, android auto and apple car play and nothing works but Bluetooth . With or with out " continuum"! No other wp works I car for onscreen controls . I've actually been crabbing about this since my 920 but I admit not sure as for car oems but as for aftermarket none are interested in " Microsoft auto" and just got of the phone with jvc whom Is parent to kenwood implies that they've gotten no word from Microsoft on this as well but wp is probably not in a position to invest on that . But like I said cortana works ok. Maybe in the future but I've been saying that for a few years .
    01-21-2016 06:04 AM
  12. Kar98's Avatar
    It's 2016 and I've given up on the idea of mirrorlink in the car. Meh, whatever. Both my wife's and my car have in-dash nav, full bluetooth audiostream and play music from iPods and USB flash drives. Good enough.
    01-21-2016 10:15 PM
  13. felickz's Avatar
    It's 2016 and I've given up on the idea of mirrorlink in the car. Meh, whatever. Both my wife's and my car have in-dash nav, full bluetooth audiostream and play music from iPods and USB flash drives. Good enough.
    Never give up. I don't want an infotainment computer in my car, i already have one in my pocket everywhere i go. Increasingly more people do every day.
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    01-22-2016 03:29 PM
  14. Dusteater's Avatar
    The sad thing is, Microsoft is a phone manufacturing member of the Car Connectivity Consortium. It is really disappointing that they don't have any interest in supporting Windows in the car. Even Bluetooth has all kinds of problems in Windows Phone 8.1 as well as 10 Mobile.


    Car Connectivity consortium


    I will most likely be getting an iPhone for my next phone since Microsoft has no intention of further development of Windows for use in the car.
    01-27-2016 08:23 PM
  15. AgentSplurge's Avatar
    So there's no update on this?

    I really don't want a head unit that has built in SatNav as I trust Here Maps much more.

    I have an old iPhone I could use for music, and sat nav in the car with Mirrorlink but really I just want my phone (Lumia 930 but will be upgrading to another WP in Nov 16) to do the job.
    02-18-2016 07:19 AM
  16. Dusteater's Avatar
    So there's no update on this?

    I really don't want a head unit that has built in SatNav as I trust Here Maps much more.

    I have an old iPhone I could use for music, and sat nav in the car with Mirrorlink but really I just want my phone (Lumia 930 but will be upgrading to another WP in Nov 16) to do the job.
    I've tried reaching out to everyone I could think of at Microsoft and got no response. It would appear that MirrorLink isn't something that is going to happen on Windows anytime soon, if ever.
    02-18-2016 10:27 AM
  17. AWD4416's Avatar
    I would encourage everyone to upvote every single request for MirrorLink on the Windows 10 Mobile feedback app. You have to set it to all categories and then search for MirrorLink.

    Not having proper interaction with my 950XL on my car (Bluetooth has gotten better buy still not solid) is one of the key reasons I'm already planning on switching platforms again.
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    02-21-2016 10:58 PM
  18. Dusteater's Avatar
    None of the news concerning Redstone has any mention of MirrorLink. Since the updates won't even be complete until Spring 2017, I think we can count Windows 10 Mobile out of being used the car for at least another year. And that is being optimistic. Realistically, there will likely never be automotive integration of any kind in Windows.

    It's a shame Microsoft doesn't realize how important this is. It's going to cost them greatly going forward. Guess that's what happens when they all ride around their shuttle buses in Redmond, and none of their developers have ever driven a car before.
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    03-11-2016 12:49 AM
  19. Pranab's Avatar
    Buying a new car with Mirrorlink and Carplay..have a 950, Sometimes get a little tired of being left out of the fun.. But no matter, be brave is what i say to myself.. A day shall come when i will have a smartphone which has all the apps in the world and is supported by every smart car system..and that will be Lumia 9500..šŸ˜›
    05-12-2016 12:38 PM
  20. p51mustang's Avatar
    Buying a new car with Mirrorlink and Carplay..have a 950, Sometimes get a little tired of being left out of the fun.. But no matter, be brave is what i say to myself.. A day shall come when i will have a smartphone which has all the apps in the world and is supported by every smart car system..and that will be Lumia 9500..
    05-12-2016 02:50 PM
  21. shovelhead84's Avatar
    I have two 2016 model cars from different manufacturers. Both are premium vehicles with nearly every option I could get. One car has all three:
    Carplay, Android Auto, MirrorLink
    The other car I just got has a proprietary system, but it supports iPhone and Android.

    WTFMS? I am starting to question myself for hanging on as long as I have.....

    I actually had to ask friends to hook up their phones in my car so I could see the cool features I can't use. You're losing me....
    06-30-2016 09:31 PM
  22. Vertego's Avatar
    From the latest Peugeot 3008SUV brochure (to be released end January 2017)...

    "The Mirror ScreenĀ® function operates, as appropriate, via MirrorLinkĀ® technology (for MirrorLinkĀ®-compatible Android, Blackberry and Windows phones), ..."

    Specifically refers*to MirrorLink compatible Windows phones, but nowhere can I find out what those compatible phones are.

    Any clues?
    12-30-2016 05:14 AM
  23. Dusteater's Avatar
    From the latest Peugeot 3008SUV brochure (to be released end January 2017)...

    "The Mirror ScreenĀ® function operates, as appropriate, via MirrorLinkĀ® technology (for MirrorLinkĀ®-compatible Android, Blackberry and Windows phones), ..."

    Specifically refers*to MirrorLink compatible Windows phones, but nowhere can I find out what those compatible phones are.

    Any clues?
    There are no MirrorLink compatible Windows Phones. Microsoft has been a phone manufacturing partner of the Car Connectivity Consortium for some time, but has no actual interest in supporting this protocol in Windows 10.

    Don't ever expect to see a Windows 10 Mobile device with any car connectivity besides basic & broken Bluetooth audio.
    01-04-2017 12:05 AM
  24. p51mustang's Avatar
    I'm also greatly dissapointed that Microsoft have shown zero interrest in supporting thier loyal fanbase with MirrorLink. My car supports MirrorLink, Android Auto and Apple CarPlay, but not my L950.
    01-04-2017 05:35 AM
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