View Poll Results: What's Holding Back Windows Phone Adoption

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  • Metro/Modern UI is too foreign to iOS/Android users

    2 5.71%
  • Companies refused to make or pull apps from the Store

    16 45.71%
  • Lack of Google services/Forced into Microsoft's ecosystem without alternatives

    2 5.71%
  • Too few OEMs or OEMs using the reference design given by Microsoft

    2 5.71%
  • Lack of advertising from OEMs and Microsoft

    13 37.14%
05-17-2015 07:10 PM
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  1. hotphil's Avatar
    I find Facebook is always under "F"
    sinime likes this.
    04-09-2015 02:15 AM
  2. MysticForce's Avatar
    Why everyone is thinking that Universal apps is what you need for sucess?! Belive me it is not! 95% of apps in WP store written using Silverlight. Microsoft is killing Silverlight and bringing RunTime. You just cannot convert Silverpoght apps to RunTime and witht using RinTime you cannot write Universal apps.

    now cont how many developers will rewrite their apps from scratch to be Universal? Not many.

    Microsoft digging its own grave last two years.


    Now about UI.
    I left WP first because I need apps that not exist on WP and second because I tired of scrolling! When I use iphone I know where is Facebook (for example) is located and it is always there!!!
    what about WP start screen? You just know that some tiles for apps is somewhere down there. Same for the list of apps. I am tired of scrolling it. Tapping on char, then scroll, then tap. Is not helping.

    Just see how good was accepyance of WIndows 8 Moder UI! Everyone hated it. Dont you think WP get same fate?

    MS MUST give ability to change shell or give ability to develop new one!
    I agree with this, people hate this UI. It would be great to have a option.
    04-09-2015 02:26 AM
  3. BrandonTeoh's Avatar
    I agree with this, people hate this UI. It would be great to have a option.
    Yeah, people still like the old photo-realistic icons that seem to do nothing but wasting screen space.
    04-11-2015 05:07 AM
  4. jwaffe's Avatar
    Now what were have MS-DOS mobile, I think more people will be ready to make the switch to WP.
    I know that was probably a joke, but I couldn't help but comment,

    If somebody released a WP with a x86 processor (not ARM) that ran everything my Windows computer does (no "app store", no walled garden), including a 32 bit emulator for older programs and a half decent processor, I would be very interested in that. It would bring the one reason why I still use Windows (legacy programs, windows only programs) to phones, and actually integrate the desktop and the phone in the other direction.
    05-17-2015 09:24 AM
  5. EMINENT 1's Avatar
    I really wish people would stop talking about the future of Windows Phone as if it has saved the platform. I'm really excited for the future and I hope it does save the platform, but most people don't know anything about the future with Windows 10. They don't go on sites and forums like these. They see what is currently out. iPhone 6/6+, Note 4, and they know the Galaxy S6 is coming. They buy these phones on contract because most people do not know about buying a phone outright, nor do they want to spend $300+. So now there goes another customer for 2 years. There is essentially no flagship. In the US you have to be on Verizon to get the icon or the absolutely gigantic 1520 on AT&T. The 1520 is too large for what many people want so it's out and there's nothing else comparable. Verizon users can't have the 1520 they might want. A friend on T-Mobile wanted to switch back to Windows Phone now that his two years are up. His option is the 635? Get a crappier processor, no front facing camera, a worse screen, etc, etc? He's not going to downgrade to a Windows Phone. Another friend on T-Mobile has a 925. He has no upgrade path. His wife has an 8x. She likes to use snapchat and instagram. Well she might not understand what 6tag is, and there's no snapchat so her upgrade will be back to Android. Developing multi-platform apps may not be a lot more work, but to be able to develop something that is pretty similar between iOS and Android then have to make a bunch of new assets and designs to layout to fit the Windows Phone ecosystem is something that may turn a developer away especially when the userbase is undetermined.

    I've mentioned in other threads that I've experienced the ridicule of owning a Windows Phone. I really like the 1520, but again it's gigantic and really my only option as far as a flagship currently goes. Microsoft needs to start with a flagship that improves upon the 1020s camera. That's the one thing people do favorably talk about when it comes with WP. Then they need to take that flagship and make sure it can come out for all carriers, so everyone can get it. That alone would be a good start in getting more users. People willing to try the platform are more likely to if they are getting awesome cameras and hardware and know that they're getting a phone that will be better than what they're currently using.

    Great points here. I've seen a few people with 1020's and it's surreal. I personally think the screen is too damn small and the camera alone doesn't make me want to use a small screen.

    For me, my main experience is browsing and using the phone. So 95% of my time is looking at the screen. This was my main purchasing decision for my 830 because it's not ginormous and not smallish like my previous 920. Keep in mind, I had to settle on the 830 because again, the 1520 was too big.

    Back on topic. The main reasons are carriers...exclusivity sucks, lack of features/app parity and products.

    Nokia made a terrible decision to make the 1520 exclusive on ATT and the 930 on only Verizon. This was a recipe for disaster, and they already had the lack of apps and features being behind the competition.

    With the momentum of 10 and everything on the software side gaining praise, they need to come with it on the hardware front and push Continuum on a flagship phone that's available on every carrier and worldwide. These features, with truly unique hardware that includes varying sizes on major carriers, along with LTE supported tablets running Windows 10 Mobile, will be key to gaining market share that is getting gobbled up by cheap, on contract Android tabs available from carriers nowadays.
    05-17-2015 11:06 AM
  6. tgp's Avatar
    Nokia made a terrible decision to make the 1520 exclusive on ATT and the 930 on only Verizon. This was a recipe for disaster, and they already had the lack of apps and features being behind the competition.
    Why do you think Nokia decided to offer them as exclusives?

    Sent from whatever device I happen to be using today using Tapatalk
    05-17-2015 11:12 AM
  7. EMINENT 1's Avatar
    Why do you think Nokia decided to offer them as exclusives?

    Sent from whatever device I happen to be using today using Tapatalk
    Marketing money and maybe carrier choice. Whether that money was well spent or not, or if this was a good decision is clear.

    From my point of view, the little bit of coverage or promotion from each carrier did nothing to get more phones into people's hands. Lack of offerings from all 4 major carriers was enough for people to just go with something else.
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    05-17-2015 05:21 PM
  8. Tepid's Avatar
    There are a number of reasons that are holding it back.
    But I think Win10 is going to change some of that.

    Those complaining about scrolling and the start screen just have no clue on how to actually use it.
    Sorry, but I will take the Windows Live Tiles and start screen over the outdated and sloppy Andriod/iPhone start screen that has no function whatsoever except to open apps, of which you will have to open numerous apps just to see any kind of recent info.
    Learn how to organize the Tiles and you won't have to scroll so much.

    That in of itself is the biggest issue. The whole concept is lost on the iDroid cult.

    then you have the petty dev's that just want to be petty about Windows Phone. that's fine
    There are those that pick up their slack and we really don't need them. It's too bad some of them can't handle the fact that there is a call for their apps on Windows Phone and when someone creates one that is actually better than what they themselves could produce, rather than hire that person, they sue them. Personally, those Dev's and Companies can go screw themselves. I don't use their crappy apps anyway.

    MS not really pushing too hard from the start, and their crappy commercials didn't help at all.

    Carriers being petty and pathetic in their own swill doesn't help either.

    My Icon is still better than every hone on the market today. I still have people who see the pictures I take be amazed.
    I show them the speed of the phone and the look and they can't get past the whole tile concept. it's completely lost on them.

    But, there are many, whom after using a Windows Phone for a period of time that have no bias, actually love the Windows Phone.

    we will see what the future holds.
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    05-17-2015 05:29 PM
  9. Guytronic's Avatar
    What is holding back Windows phone adoption
    Microsoft is the biggest roadblock.

    Seems to me (guessing here) a miniscule portion of the company is aimed at promoting Microsoft Mobile.
    I am starting to think Windows phone is just the "hobby" division.
    It's where people that Microsoft doesn't know what to do with end up.
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    05-17-2015 05:34 PM
  10. Tepid's Avatar
    you know, it still amazes the hell out of me, that there are so many that would rather waste their money on Andriod/iPads that are so infinitely limited in what they can actually do with them, rather than by a real tablet (Surface Pro) that is practically limitless in what it can do.
    Move every major app from iStore and Droid Store to Windows Store and trust me, people might see the light and Apple/Droids would take a serious dive right into the pavement.
    05-17-2015 05:47 PM
  11. PiggyMiddle's Avatar
    ...and it is only going to get worse. For me, it used to be that mosft were the good guys when it came to my data privacy, but that is going out the window (pun intended) with win10.

    They stated at Build that in two years they expect their data business to be 20-Billion/year. They are also joining OneDrive Personal and OneDrive Business. Couple that with another statement to business developers at Build, "don't break down your data, just grab everything and analyze it in the one place." Ummm, that would be OneDrive.

    No more mister nice guy from msoft. As much as I like windows 8.1 (just got Update 2 this morning) I am going to get a PlusOne with Cyanogen and no thieving fingers in my pie. :)

    But, then to get back somewhat On-Topic, I think we will see a drop in windows phone sales, regardless of any/all the selection-options in the Poll.

    It looks to me that if things pan out as msoft seems to be intending, the Mr. Nice guy for at least some data privacy will be Google. LOL
    05-17-2015 06:22 PM
  12. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    you know, it still amazes the hell out of me, that there are so many that would rather waste their money on Andriod/iPads that are so infinitely limited in what they can actually do with them, rather than by a real tablet (Surface Pro) that is practically limitless in what it can do.
    Move every major app from iStore and Droid Store to Windows Store and trust me, people might see the light and Apple/Droids would take a serious dive right into the pavement.
    Surface Pro is a laptop replacement, not an iPad replacement.

    Sent from my Moto X using Tapatalk
    Guytronic likes this.
    05-17-2015 06:40 PM
  13. Tepid's Avatar
    Surface Pro is a laptop replacement, not an iPad replacement.

    Sent from my Moto X using Tapatalk
    I keep hearing people say that, but, that's just not the case.
    Both Run apps. many same apps, Both cost roughly the same depending on options.
    But one is so far more limited... I keep seeing people buy an ipad just to get email, then they still have a Desktop and Laptop and an iPhone
    sorry, not buying the excuse.
    05-17-2015 06:55 PM
  14. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    I keep hearing people say that, but, that's just not the case.
    Both Run apps. many same apps, Both cost roughly the same depending on options.
    But one is so far more limited... I keep seeing people buy an ipad just to get email, then they still have a Desktop and Laptop and an iPhone
    sorry, not buying the excuse.
    The people who have iPads in addition to laptops and desktops might have the iPad Mini. A Surface Pro is lot bigger than an iPad Mini. I have two 7" tablets, one Windows and one Android, but they're not laptop replacements. I use them more as smartphone replacements when I want something portable but bigger than a smartphone. No, I'm not getting a 6" smartphone. That is too big for my pockets, but I'll toss a small tablet in my bag. I'll take a laptop with me if I need something more powerful than a mobile device.

    Sent from my Moto X using Tapatalk
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    05-17-2015 07:10 PM
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