06-11-2015 01:14 AM
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  1. Silent Fox's Avatar
    I know we live in the all touch world, but blackberry has revamped their old school lineup, and it makes me wonder would anyone like to see a windows phone with a similar design???

    A long time ago I had the Motorola Q with some ancient form of windows mobile, and I loved it and its keyboard. I would totally sacrifice some screen size for a windows phone with a tangible qwerty. I loved the shape of the Q, which was very blackberry esque, but I also love the current wp8.1 setup.
    04-26-2015 10:02 PM
  2. hotphil's Avatar
    Yes
    Yes
    Yes
    I can't believe there isn't (even a niche) one.
    The whole idea of onscreen keyboards is flawed. Due to being onscreen.
    They take up half the space. And you're never sure which keyboard layout you're gonna get. Or what the Enter button will do (will it take me to next field? Backwards? An OK button?). They also usually pop up and hide whatever action buttons are available on the page/app. And no touch feedback (not talking about haptic, I mean actual fingers-across-keys touch). Give me the keyboard from a Wizard or TyTN II over even the best swypey onscreen nonsense anyday.
    04-26-2015 10:07 PM
  3. ajayden's Avatar
    Physical keyboard is good but then they should not implement like the old day (Tytn II style).

    They must implement the new way, Surface style, like phone cover and keyboard.
    Posted on Lumia 1520 via Taptalk
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    04-26-2015 10:53 PM
  4. Nokia_Lumia's Avatar
    I had (and still have) the SCH-i760, XV6800, LG Fathom Verizon Windows Mobile devices. I miss the physical QWERTY. The arrow keys/D-pad were also very useful, along with the call/end keys. It is really a shame that absolutely everyone followed Apple and there are almost no physical button devices today. I hope that we have a keyboard option at least as an attachment in the future.

    I could make a call in a matter of seconds on SCH-i760 - hit dial button, select from recent calls in the dialer menu using dpad, hit dial button again. Or use smart dialing using the front number pad or slide out qwerty. Much quicker than today, for sure.

    Working with Outlook and MS Office was also easier: I had the entire screen to see, with keyboard for typing, and stylus for precise selection of word/paragraph/cell.(That is aside from the fact that Windows Mobile was way ahead of its time, and even today is in some ways ahead of WinPhone 8 for productivity)
    snowmutt, rhapdog and RumoredNow like this.
    04-26-2015 11:16 PM
  5. Yazen's Avatar
    I know we live in the all touch world, but blackberry has revamped their old school lineup, and it makes me wonder would anyone like to see a windows phone with a similar design???

    A long time ago I had the Motorola Q with some ancient form of windows mobile, and I loved it and its keyboard. I would totally sacrifice some screen size for a windows phone with a tangible qwerty. I loved the shape of the Q, which was very blackberry esque, but I also love the current wp8.1 setup.
    Dell Venue Pro had a pretty good qwerty.

    No virtual keyboard can stand up to the BlackBerry Passport :)
    snowmutt likes this.
    04-26-2015 11:35 PM
  6. hotphil's Avatar
    Physical keyboard is good but then they should not implement like the old day (Tytn II style).

    They must implement the new way, Surface style, like phone cover and keyboard.
    Posted on Lumia 1520 via Taptalk
    Not for a phone.
    It'd be constantly getting disconnected, cause trouble removing device from pocket and having a connection that gets gunked up. Not to mention that typing on a Touch Cover is less reponsive than a Speak & Spell.
    Integrated slider with a decent hinge mechanism and actual keys is the way to go. If anyone decides there's demand out there.​
    rhapdog and RumoredNow like this.
    04-27-2015 02:47 AM
  7. tonygt92's Avatar
    A Nokia E7 type phone running WP, with a bigger screen, metal body, flip out qwerty keyboard, a 20.7 mp cam, about the width of a Lumia 920, slimmer would be better.
    JRF_1986 and RumoredNow like this.
    04-27-2015 03:12 AM
  8. hotphil's Avatar
    Please enough with the "slimmer" already. :-)
    Thick. Fill it with battery. Review, make thicker, add more battery. Sell smartphone with real-word full day battery life. Take all the money.
    04-27-2015 09:19 AM
  9. MBY's Avatar
    I'd love a physical keyboard. For me typing has always been a tactile experience, not a visual one. Visual keyboards cause me a ton of eye strain.
    RumoredNow likes this.
    04-27-2015 09:25 AM
  10. SteveNoza's Avatar
    Because BlackBerry seems incapable of building reliable physical keyboards anymore, maybe there is a market that Windows Phone can fill.
    snowmutt, flyingsolid and rambo47 like this.
    04-27-2015 09:37 AM
  11. Slovenix's Avatar
    I support physical keyboards all the way. :) I'm surprised that someone actually likes it here and I always thought about a Windows phone or any phone with it.
    I'm currently designing a smartphone in AutoCAD and I'll try to implement keyboard as well. I'm thinking about surface like keyboard..
    I'll sure post renders on here when I'm done. (about two weeks as I'm creating peace by peace) or I can put low quality renders just to show it to you guys for feedback.
    snowmutt likes this.
    04-27-2015 09:48 AM
  12. Slovenix's Avatar
    Do you guys like wooden backplates?
    04-27-2015 09:59 AM
  13. hotphil's Avatar
    Do you guys like wooden backplates?
    Hell yes. Or leather. Or anything that doesn't slide out of your hand when it gets a bit sweaty.
    I struggle to comprehend the mindset of some designers - "here's a device that's designed to be held. Let's make it out of something slippery. And that loses its beauty qualities when covered in fingerprints"
    rhapdog likes this.
    04-27-2015 10:20 AM
  14. hotphil's Avatar
    I support physical keyboards all the way. :) I'm surprised that someone actually likes it here and I always thought about a Windows phone or any phone with it.
    I'm currently designing a smartphone in AutoCAD and I'll try to implement keyboard as well. I'm thinking about surface like keyboard..
    I'll sure post renders on here when I'm done. (about two weeks as I'm creating peace by peace) or I can put low quality renders just to show it to you guys for feedback.
    Actual keys. Not Touch Cover ones. And remember the little dots or ridges on a couple of the keys that allow you to truly touch type. But illuminated is good too.
    rhapdog and RumoredNow like this.
    04-27-2015 10:22 AM
  15. Slovenix's Avatar
    Actual keys. Not Touch Cover ones. And remember the little dots or ridges on a couple of the keys that allow you to truly touch type. But illuminated is good too.
    I actually agree. I'm planning a fully featured keyboard, just need to figure out how to make them clickier. (pressure needed to click) :)
    RumoredNow likes this.
    04-27-2015 10:31 AM
  16. Silent Fox's Avatar
    I use my phone to email, text, modify documents and web search all day for my business. Honestly if I ever watch videos or anything I use my Surface. The idea of having keys with actual ridges and dots sounds amazing. I really love a lot of the windows phone stuff, but the design of a blackberry really is tempting for what I do.

    I doubt Microsoft will come out with a Lumia of such keyed nature, but I would be all over it.
    rhapdog likes this.
    04-27-2015 11:24 AM
  17. TechFreak1's Avatar
    Yes
    Yes
    Yes
    I can't believe there isn't (even a niche) one.
    The whole idea of onscreen keyboards is flawed. Due to being onscreen.
    They take up half the space. And you're never sure which keyboard layout you're gonna get. Or what the Enter button will do (will it take me to next field? Backwards? An OK button?). They also usually pop up and hide whatever action buttons are available on the page/app. And no touch feedback (not talking about haptic, I mean actual fingers-across-keys touch). Give me the keyboard from a Wizard or TyTN II over even the best swypey onscreen nonsense anyday.
    The dell venue pro, htc touch pro 7 where decent physical keyboard phones in terms of hard ware.

    They (MS) messed up with the software, woeful support for landscape, locking msd cards to phones to which they were inserted (the dell venue pro had a accessible msd slot but hot swapping was not recommended as the o/s would format and switch on the "secure side" of the cards thus rending them unreadable via your bogstandard card readers, which lead to the MS certified msd cards). To gain access to the card in the HTC Pro 7 you had to semi disassemble the phone.

    There are other issues but, won't mention them as this post will end up as a mini essay lol.
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    04-27-2015 11:37 AM
  18. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Because BlackBerry seems incapable of building reliable physical keyboards anymore, maybe there is a market that Windows Phone can fill.
    Full month into my Passport and no double-typing. Maybe someone bumped their head and figured it out.

    It could happen.
    04-27-2015 02:26 PM
  19. Slovenix's Avatar
    Full month into my Passport and no double-typing. Maybe someone bumped their head and figured it out.

    It could happen.
    That device seems really interesting to me. Is typing easy and fast?
    04-27-2015 02:42 PM
  20. fatclue_98's Avatar
    That device seems really interesting to me. Is typing easy and fast?
    I find it easier to type with only because of many years using BlackBerrys and knowing the shortcuts. I like not having to "shift" for any common punctuations because they're all laid out as a virtual 4th row. When you're on a password field, a virtual numbers row pops up and makes a 5th row so you're never losing much screen real estate. It's pretty cool once you get the hang of it.
    04-27-2015 03:27 PM
  21. snowmutt's Avatar
    Every once in a while, a thread like this comes along, allowing me to realize:

    -I really do like thicker phones. For me, this "as thin as we can make them" makes mobile phones feel like they were designed for Barbie, not G.I. Joe.

    -I really did like physical keyboards more then I thought. That I am still whining for one after the last one I owned was a Palm Pre Plus pretty much means I will never be over it.

    -I even miss the satisfying "snap" sound a slider makes when opening and closing it.

    I know it is more expensive to make a physical slider. I know most people want real estate for multi-media, and Barbie thin phones. I just don't care. I want my keyboard back.

    *sits, pouts*
    04-28-2015 02:37 AM
  22. snowmutt's Avatar
    I'm currently designing a smartphone in AutoCAD and I'll try to implement keyboard as well. I'm thinking about surface like keyboard..
    I'll sure post renders on here when I'm done. (about two weeks as I'm creating peace by peace) or I can put low quality renders just to show it to you guys for feedback.
    Please do!!!
    Slovenix likes this.
    04-28-2015 02:38 AM
  23. snowmutt's Avatar
    Please enough with the "slimmer" already. :-)
    Thick. Fill it with battery. Review, make thicker, add more battery. Sell smartphone with real-word full day battery life. Take all the money.
    After laughing hard, I decided to make a bumper sticker out of this...

    Preach on, hotphil- the Choir is with ya!!!
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    04-28-2015 02:39 AM
  24. Silent Fox's Avatar
    People always say im ridiculous for wanting a phone with a full USB plug for thumb drives. They say it would take away from the phones "thinness," and im glad Im not the only one who would prefer a hardcore super useful phone over a "thin" one. Besides, once people shove one down in an otter box they are pretty thick anyways. Why not make tough phone that actually makes use of its size? Like a nice battery, USB, etc. And of course as a business guy I'd love that real physical qwerty!
    RumoredNow likes this.
    04-28-2015 10:47 AM
  25. worldspy99's Avatar
    So I am going to chime in here with a contrarian view. Having got the hang of Word Flow (on my WP devices) or Swype (on my Nexus 7) I for one do not wish or long for a physical keyboard. Also I use the talk to type feature on WP and Android quite a bit as well so for me a physical keyboard is not something that I pine for.

    This is coming from someone who used a HTC TyTn II for 40 months straight, the longest streak for any smartphone in my stable. The second longest streak is a Lumia 810.
    jmshub likes this.
    04-28-2015 11:44 AM
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