07-28-2015 11:51 AM
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  1. Zachary Boddy's Avatar
    OK, very nice 940. But will there be a 1540. Or perhaps a 940XL?
    Really need the 6 inch QHD Phablet.
    Loud Clear Speakers, Great Reception, Great Camera, Huge battery, Core i7 Processor with Fan Coolded Fins which double as a hand warmer in winter or windshield defogger......
    940 XL? Of course. I have ideas for a 1520 successor as well if you'd like to hear it. It's more powerful, and has a slightly more advanced camera setup (more space means more specs, honestly...and if you're going to spend the extra money for a larger phone you might as well get some extra features too).
    05-25-2015 09:34 PM
  2. Roy Corneloues BT's Avatar
    I understand what you're saying about the port placement but I still firmly believe it would do better up top. Also I'd like to add that the charging port would be surrounded by a dark strip just like on the 830, and so would the headphone jack (or the headphone jack would be a slight chamfered ridge of darker aluminum).
    Surely Continuum would put and end to top based connectivity. Docking stations will require the port to be at the bottom so it can, well, dock!

    Any new high end Lumia device will need to consider Continuum...
    05-26-2015 07:10 AM
  3. mikepalma's Avatar
    Just please change the name! The 3 number thing stinks
    05-26-2015 07:13 AM
  4. gwinegarden's Avatar
    All these wet dreams are OK, but Microsoft isn't listening. They will do what they do.
    05-26-2015 09:43 AM
  5. Harrie-S's Avatar
    Thanks. I understand how proximity sensors are used, but I was wondering how Glance is displayed on the screen. All I have seen thrown around is "display memory" haha.
    I think I know.
    A screen has small dots red, green and blue. And 1 RGB together make one pixel.
    And every dot is connected to a switch and the switches are connected to lines. And every line is connected to the driving IC.
    So every dot can be controlled.

    To get a green screen all the green dots are switched on and all the blue and red are switched off.
    And all the (mixed) colors are made by "mixing" of RGB. For example 15%red ,20 % green and 65 % blue gives color X.

    Now to control the dots you need IC's and these are placed on the glass edge of the screen.
    And these IC are complicated because they need to switch all the dots and create all the images (color movement etc) you see on the screen. (16 M colors mean that the IC's can make 16 million combinations)

    And now to the Glance and display memory.
    If the screens (LCD or OLED) are made you can use basically 2 technologies to make the switches. If you use the LTPS technology to make the switches you also can make rudimentary IC's on the glass.
    And these rudimentary IC's are use for Glance.
    So you do not use the complicated driving IC's but the " simple" IC's in the display. These are low power but also can not make that many combinations of color that fast. So no moving images and no full color pictures.
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    05-26-2015 10:37 AM
  6. Zachary Boddy's Avatar
    I think I know.
    A screen has small dots red, green and blue. And 1 RGB together make one pixel.
    And every dot is connected to a switch and the switches are connected to lines. And every line is connected to the driving IC.
    So every dot can be controlled.

    To get a green screen all the green dots are switched on and all the blue and red are switched off.
    And all the (mixed) colors are made by "mixing" of RGB. For example 15%red ,20 % green and 65 % blue gives color X.

    Now to control the dots you need IC's and these are placed on the glass edge of the screen.
    And these IC are complicated because they need to switch all the dots and create all the images (color movement etc) you see on the screen. (16 M colors mean that the IC's can make 16 million combinations)

    And now to the Glance and display memory.
    If the screens (LCD or OLED) are made you can use basically 2 technologies to make the switches. If you use the LTPS technology to make the switches you also can make rudimentary IC's on the glass.
    And these rudimentary IC's are use for Glance.
    So you do not use the complicated driving IC's but the " simple" IC's in the display. These are low power but also can not make that many combinations of color that fast. So no moving images and no full color pictures.
    That makes a lot of sense! Thank you.
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    05-26-2015 12:13 PM
  7. Zachary Boddy's Avatar
    All these wet dreams are OK, but Microsoft isn't listening. They will do what they do.
    Of course they're going to do whatever they want, but it's still nice to out my ideas out there. I honestly really enjoy reading about people's (realistic) dream phones. So if any of you have renders or concepts I'd love to take a look at them.
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    05-26-2015 12:14 PM
  8. Zachary Boddy's Avatar
    Surely Continuum would put and end to top based connectivity. Docking stations will require the port to be at the bottom so it can, well, dock!

    Any new high end Lumia device will need to consider Continuum...
    I wasn't aware there would be a dock. All I've heard is that you just plug your phone into a monitor. I guess it would make sense to release a special "Continuum" dock but it'd be easy to modify it for different designs.
    05-26-2015 12:15 PM
  9. Zachary Boddy's Avatar
    Just please change the name! The 3 number thing stinks
    I don't think there's an easy way to do it. I honestly think it works.
    Microsoft (manufacturer) Lumia (brand) 940 (model).
    At least I can get rid of the four digits
    Microsoft Lumia 940 XL (moniker) for the 1520.
    I guess Surface Phone could work but that suggest a business orientated phone and that this is not. It's a commercial phone.
    05-26-2015 12:18 PM
  10. Roy Corneloues BT's Avatar
    I wasn't aware there would be a dock. All I've heard is that you just plug your phone into a monitor. I guess it would make sense to release a special "Continuum" dock but it'd be easy to modify it for different designs.
    Kinda obvious if you think about it... How would you connect a keyboard and mouse ;-)

    Do a quick search for "munchkin" on the main Windows Central site and this should answer some of your queries...
    07-14-2015 06:17 AM
  11. Zachary Boddy's Avatar
    Kinda obvious if you think about it... How would you connect a keyboard and mouse ;-)

    Do a quick search for "munchkin" on the main Windows Central site and this should answer some of your queries...
    I've read all about it. This thread was started before Windows 10 Mobile was even a name, haha.
    07-14-2015 04:46 PM
  12. Cody Patterson's Avatar
    The only complaint I have so far about the rumors of the real 940 is that they have them listed as 5mp front facing cameras, that is horrible for a flagship phone these days. Atleast an 8mp shooter should be included. Even mid-end devices like the HTC desire eye or whatever has a 8mp front shooter. That should he standard in highend devices if it is also in midend devices. So ridiculous ti me, and I seriously hope that gets changed before it is released or formally announced.
    07-22-2015 12:01 AM
  13. Zachary Boddy's Avatar
    The only complaint I have so far about the rumors of the real 940 is that they have them listed as 5mp front facing cameras, that is horrible for a flagship phone these days. Atleast an 8mp shooter should be included. Even mid-end devices like the HTC desire eye or whatever has a 8mp front shooter. That should he standard in highend devices if it is also in midend devices. So ridiculous ti me, and I seriously hope that gets changed before it is released or formally announced.
    Very few phones actually have an 8MP front facing camera, as it's a new trend. 5MP was a new trend last year, and before that 2MP was perfectly acceptable. The HTC Desire Eye is a selfie-oriented camera phone. It has a 13MP front facing camera with a dual-LED flash.
    07-22-2015 03:53 PM
  14. Cody Patterson's Avatar
    It is the new standard now, and that is how Microsoft needs ti model going forward, we consistently use old standards and tech instead of staying up to date and that is why people complain. Lets for once have a truly highend phone.
    07-22-2015 05:06 PM
  15. tale 85's Avatar
    Sorry, I started skimming after a while. Sounds impressive and I'm sure someone could probably build one.
    But....how much! I know its a flagship, but each of those things come with a price tag.
    07-22-2015 05:28 PM
  16. Cody Patterson's Avatar
    Sorry, I started skimming after a while. Sounds impressive and I'm sure someone could probably build one.
    But....how much! I know its a flagship, but each of those things come with a price tag.
    You are right, but it is a flagship, if people want a flagship they spend money, otherwise they get a midend device. Plus in america we still have subsidized contracts so people are willing to invest in a 800$ phone if they are only paying 200-300$ for it.
    07-22-2015 10:25 PM
  17. tale 85's Avatar
    You are right, but it is a flagship, if people want a flagship they spend money, otherwise they get a midend device. Plus in america we still have subsidized contracts so people are willing to invest in a 800$ phone if they are only paying 200-300$ for it.
    I'm just wondering if all the features in this " Ideal" phone could be done within the flagship price range. We Windows people love our phones, and would jump on this one with both feet...if the price is competitive. It sounds like more of a $1500-$1800 phone. Then the carriers take over.
    I think the next step is to try to price it out. Who knows, it might just work.
    07-23-2015 06:50 AM
  18. trivishal's Avatar
    @Zachary buddy Lumia 940 or whatever Microsoft would call that would have 3 gb of LPDDR3 RAM not LPDDR4 RAM
    07-23-2015 07:12 AM
  19. Zachary Boddy's Avatar
    I'm just wondering if all the features in this " Ideal" phone could be done within the flagship price range. We Windows people love our phones, and would jump on this one with both feet...if the price is competitive. It sounds like more of a $1500-$1800 phone. Then the carriers take over.
    I think the next step is to try to price it out. Who knows, it might just work.
    It's only that expensive if Microsoft is idiotic and wants a $1,000 profit margin haha. This could be done for cheaper than the Galaxy S6 sells for, probably.
    07-23-2015 08:04 AM
  20. Zachary Boddy's Avatar
    @Zachary buddy Lumia 940 or whatever Microsoft would call that would have 3 gb of LPDDR3 RAM not LPDDR4 RAM
    It probably will have LPDDR3 RAM but this is a dream device and in my dream device Microsoft uses the fastest RAM available and that's LPDDR4 RAM (which is in the Samsung Galaxy S6).
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    07-23-2015 08:06 AM
  21. Zachary Boddy's Avatar
    It is the new standard now, and that is how Microsoft needs ti model going forward, we consistently use old standards and tech instead of staying up to date and that is why people complain. Lets for once have a truly highend phone.
    It's not "standard" yet, if it ever will be. The majority of flagship devices have 5MP front facing cameras. It's only really Chinese manufacturers and the odd phone or two from the big manufacturers that feature a higher MP front facing camera.
    Also...more megapixels does not make a better camera.
    07-23-2015 08:08 AM
  22. AndyCalling's Avatar
    Small sensor + high pixel count = poor pictures. Why do we want a tiny 8mp sensor for selfies? Does anyone really want to print off A3 posters from their selfie collection? This is barmy stuff. 5mp is pretty over the top for a selfie camera as it is. It's hard enough to keep the quality up on the front camera with 5mp. There is no need to knacker the front camera completely.
    07-23-2015 08:17 AM
  23. tale 85's Avatar
    It's only that expensive if Microsoft is idiotic and wants a $1,000 profit margin haha. This could be done for cheaper than the Galaxy S6 sells for, probably.
    Then sign me up, I'll take the smoke color.
    07-23-2015 08:26 AM
  24. Cody Patterson's Avatar
    I'm just wondering if all the features in this " Ideal" phone could be done within the flagship price range. We Windows people love our phones, and would jump on this one with both feet...if the price is competitive. It sounds like more of a $1500-$1800 phone. Then the carriers take over.
    I think the next step is to try to price it out. Who knows, it might just work.
    Yes it definitely could be done within the flagship price range. The ideal phone that oriole are talking about already exists in the form of pretty much other manufacture, the inly difference is it doesn't have windows phone on it. We aren't talking about a 1200$ device we are talking about a 700-800$ device based on the cost of the other already comparable devices put there with similar specs. Don't worry.
    07-23-2015 11:14 AM
  25. Cody Patterson's Avatar
    Nah bigger than 5mp with high quality sensor is becoming the standard since people have been fighting for selfie based front facers. That's important in the market today, especially if Microsoft wants to win over the younger generation which we all know is who makes a phone popular. As has been well known around here for a long time.
    07-23-2015 11:17 AM
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