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06-13-2015 05:01 PM
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  1. bo_woods's Avatar
    I have been debating whether or not I should go with a 930/ICON, or a 1520 to use until the flagship comes. I really have no interest in using a low end phone as a stop gap either. So if I decide these two are no longer worth the buy then I'll most likely just hold onto an 830.. This is a debate for me for the following reasons

    What if I get a 930/1520 that has one of it's infamous issues? will MS still replace it for me? If not, then what the heck am I supposed to do?!?!?

    Is there any reliable third party insurance that doesn't cost like $100? SquareTrade?

    The reliability of these phones in 2015 is making me question whether I should return to the 1520 again/try out the 930, or play it safe and go for 830 which would definitely have MS's full support for replacements incase of defects


    Although Such Visual perfection!

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    Last edited by bo_woods; 05-26-2015 at 05:23 PM.
    05-26-2015 05:00 PM
  2. mary beth hale's Avatar
    I use the 930. I purchased the 635 to try out W10TP,and since using both I'd have to agree that carrying a budget device as a daily driver is no longer an option for me.
    I never advise anyone on what phone to get since we all have different requirements. 2 things though...
    1. I have been one of the lucky ones in that any issues with my 930 are at most, mildly annoying. It checks all the boxes for my needs and is a pleasure to use.
    2. Have Square Trade for my phone and my daughter's S5. She has had to use it for a cracked screen and the process was absolutely seamless and painless. I would recommend them without hesitation.
    05-26-2015 05:14 PM
  3. bo_woods's Avatar
    I use the 930. I purchased the 635 to try out W10TP,and since using both I'd have to agree that carrying a budget device as a daily driver is no longer an option for me.
    I never advise anyone on what phone to get since we all have different requirements. 2 things though...
    1. I have been one of the lucky ones in that any issues with my 930 are at most, mildly annoying. It checks all the boxes for my needs and is a pleasure to use.
    2. Have Square Trade for my phone and my daughter's S5. She has had to use it for a cracked screen and the process was absolutely seamless and painless. I would recommend them without hesitation.
    Can you still acquire SquareTrade if you are purchasing a used phone?
    05-26-2015 05:25 PM
  4. 11B1P's Avatar
    You understand, the 930 and Icon are two different phones, right?
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    05-26-2015 05:26 PM
  5. mary beth hale's Avatar
    Can you still acquire SquareTrade if you are purchasing a used phone?
    Yes. At least that's the case for an ebay purchase. Not sure how it works from other retailers.
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    05-26-2015 05:30 PM
  6. bo_woods's Avatar
    You understand, the 930 and Icon are two different phones, right?
    Yes I completely understand. It's just that they share very similar issues, and pretty much only have the difference of frequency bands, carrier branding, and color choice. So I wanted input from both ICON and 930 users
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    05-26-2015 05:34 PM
  7. mary beth hale's Avatar
    You understand, the 930 and Icon are two different phones, right?
    Good point. Be aware that the Icon is cdma and the 930 is gsm. The Icon is gsm unlocked but if you are using it on a gsm carrier like at&t or T-Mobile you lose some things like mms and internet sharing. Also the 930 will not get lte on at&t or T-Mobile. For me the hspa+ is sufficient but lots of people see this as a deal breaker. Again, its all about what your needs are.
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    05-26-2015 05:36 PM
  8. mary beth hale's Avatar
    They sell unlocked at&t 1520s though, don't they?
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    05-26-2015 06:59 PM
  9. bo_woods's Avatar
    They sell unlocked at&t 1520s though, don't they?
    Does who sell unlocked Lumia 1520's?
    05-26-2015 07:03 PM
  10. mary beth hale's Avatar
    Does who sell unlocked Lumia 1520's?
    Sorry..."they" meaning online retailers...eBay, Swappa, etc.
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    05-26-2015 07:24 PM
  11. bo_woods's Avatar
    Sorry..."they" meaning online retailers...eBay, Swappa, etc.
    I never see unlocked AT&T 1520's being sold by real deal big online retailers.. only by just regular people selling a device, although the foreign ( non U.S) 1520's I see are almost always unlocked
    05-26-2015 07:27 PM
  12. mary beth hale's Avatar
    I never see unlocked AT&T 1520's being sold by real deal big online retailers.. only by just regular people selling a device, although the foreign ( non U.S) 1520's I see are almost always unlocked
    I'd you don't mind eBay,I'm looking at quite a few on my laptop right now. I don't see any "new" though. There are a few listed by reputable dealers that are "new other" (open box). The ones I am looking at are rm-940 at&t unlocked.
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    05-26-2015 07:51 PM
  13. bo_woods's Avatar
    I'd you don't mind eBay,I'm looking at quite a few on my laptop right now. I don't see any "new" though. There are a few listed by reputable dealers that are "new other" (open box). The ones I am looking at are rm-940 at&t unlocked.
    I didn't plan on getting a brand new one or even a mint used one as those seem to always be around $300. I was just going to settle for a fair condition one for about $160-190 and maybe replace the body with a fresh new one for about $20. My main concern with going back to the 1520 was my fear that some sort of problem would arise and I'd be stuck with a defective unit as MS probably won't replace a used item bought by a third party retailer. Hence why I even in the slightest considered the 830 because it'll be supported and safe
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    05-26-2015 08:22 PM
  14. mary beth hale's Avatar
    Yes,unfortunately, I think you're right about not having support from Microsoft for a 3rd party purchase. That's the chance you have to take with buying anything other than new and from someone other than Microsoft or a carrier. Never had issues with my 3rd party purchases but I sure understand your concerns.
    05-26-2015 08:35 PM
  15. bo_woods's Avatar
    Yes,unfortunately, I think you're right about not having support from Microsoft for a 3rd party purchase. That's the chance you have to take with buying anything other than new and from someone other than Microsoft or a carrier. Never had issues with my 3rd party purchases but I sure understand your concerns.
    I have no idea which of the three I should aim for as my partner in crime for the foreseeable future

    1520- no compromises, but unwieldy, has a somewhat too sensitive display ( LCD spots and screen cracks can be particularly easy to cause ) and no support



    930 or ICON-perfect size, amoled, aluminum, easily swapped backs, etc, but no LTE, possibly no MMS and very thick, also the Verizon logo on the front of the ICON is huge ugly turn off

    830-Lower spec'd internals making it midrange, and the screen and camera aren't as good as the others.. but support is there...

    05-26-2015 08:46 PM
  16. hasasimo's Avatar
    I have no idea which of the three I should aim for as my partner in crime for the foreseeable future

    1520- no compromises, but unwieldy, has a somewhat too sensitive display ( LCD spots and screen cracks can be particularly easy to cause ) and no support



    930 or ICON-perfect size, amoled, aluminum, easily swapped backs, etc, but no LTE, possibly no MMS and very thick, also the Verizon logo on the front of the ICON is huge ugly turn off

    830-Lower spec'd internals making it midrange, and the screen and camera aren't as good as the others.. but support is there...

    I feel your pain.

    First of all you will most certainly get MMS, visual voicemail, etc. with the 930 on AT&T or T-Mobile. But not with the Icon.

    I love my Lumia 830, but I had the privilege of playing with a gold/white 930 for a few days this past weekend and fell in love. What a beautiful device and display. It had no screen or battery issues like I've read about. Maybe it's a newer batch. It's also made in Vietnam and not China; not sure if quality control varies between the two countries.

    It's made me very tempted to get a gold 930 of my own, but then I'd have to do without Glance, LTE, and expandable memory (the last one isn't too important to me).

    The 830 has it all, and performs very well, so I hesitantly decided just to stick with what I have.

    Owned a 1520 but ended up selling it... just too big, and the swipe/tap/scroll bug was annoying.

    If I were you, it would be between the 930 and the 830, but the choice gets tougher from there. I had an 830 without LTE back in October and November of last year, and it performed very well on H+, if that helps you any. But performance wise, there really is just a miniscule difference between the 830 and the 930/1520 unless you're a hardcore gamer.

    I may have just made your decision tougher . But I've used and/or owned every device in questions, so I thought I'd chime in.
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    05-27-2015 12:42 AM
  17. bo_woods's Avatar
    I feel your pain.

    First of all you will most certainly get MMS, visual voicemail, etc. with the 930 on AT&T or T-Mobile. But not with the Icon.

    I love my Lumia 830, but I had the privilege of playing with a gold/white 930 for a few days this past weekend and fell in love. What a beautiful device and display. It had no screen or battery issues like I've read about. Maybe it's a newer batch. It's also made in Vietnam and not China; not sure if quality control varies between the two countries.

    It's made me very tempted to get a gold 930 of my own, but then I'd have to do without Glance, LTE, and expandable memory (the last one isn't too important to me).

    The 830 has it all, and performs very well, so I hesitantly decided just to stick with what I have.

    Owned a 1520 but ended up selling it... just too big, and the swipe/tap/scroll bug was annoying.

    If I were you, it would be between the 930 and the 830, but the choice gets tougher from there. I had an 830 without LTE back in October and November of last year, and it performed very well on H+, if that helps you any. But performance wise, there really is just a miniscule difference between the 830 and the 930/1520 unless you're a hardcore gamer.

    I may have just made your decision tougher . But I've used and/or owned every device in questions, so I thought I'd chime in.
    No you jjustmade the decision easier.. I guess iI'lltry and get my hands on a 930, and 830 then decide. I'm gonna have to sadly cancel out the 1520 as its defects/bugs are more major and would be hell to live with. Ghost taps, and a screen that can easily obtain LCD spots and cracks easily is worse than bad battery and heat issues.I could just get a power bank for the battery on the go..
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    05-27-2015 05:57 AM
  18. worldspy99's Avatar
    Here are plenty of Lumia 1520, quite a few of them unlocked for $200 or so. You should get one from deal.fisher if you see them selling one. Their excellent condition is very close to mint condition device.
    Good luck.
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    05-27-2015 10:32 AM
  19. JRF_1986's Avatar
    I've been in this situation for a while too. I currently own the 830 but wanted a 930 for the better specs and camera, but want the 1520 for the same plus bigger screen... in the end I haven't been able to make up my mind. I have read a thread here that the the issues on the 930 haven't been as common on the newer batches (or maybe they are the lucky ones) and also the 1520's issues don't appear as often with double-tap to wake turned off.
    My latest plan has been to buy a used 1520 in green on Amazon for like 280 and return it if it has issues, then go for a 930 and pay the difference (it costs like 340).
    Oh well, good luck with your purchase!
    05-27-2015 10:36 AM
  20. JRF_1986's Avatar
    Just wanted to add, the 830 is not a bad device at all. I really enjoy it and the camera has been great... gaming has been a good experience too. Battery life, screen, build quality... all great.
    05-27-2015 10:37 AM
  21. badMojo69's Avatar
    I just sold my 1520.3. I don't like the state of WP, so I figured I'd sit out W10 and see what shakes out.
    And with a lot of the Microsoft services being ported out I don't see any real reason to be loyal to the phone.
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    05-27-2015 01:39 PM
  22. RumoredNow's Avatar
    Here are plenty of Lumia 1520, quite a few of them unlocked for $200 or so. You should get one from deal.fisher if you see them selling one. Their excellent condition is very close to mint condition device.
    Good luck.
    lumia 1520 | eBay
    If anyone can find you the best deal on a device it is worldspy99. I'm too embarrassed to post on the open forum just how low a price he found me on a seller refurbished Lumia 830 RM-983 that looks and works MINT. Other users might get upset that the deal is over and gone at the rdiculously low price I paid... FWIW I think $200 is cheap for a 1520.
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    05-27-2015 01:43 PM
  23. boltz82's Avatar
    I have owned all three of the aforementioned phones at one point or another. I currently am using a 930 and like it very much. Are there some limitations? Of course. I think the same could be said for 99% of all phones out there. The reality to me though is that you need to determine if the limitations that any of these phones have is acceptable to you. To be completely honest, I feel as though the hardware has everything that I am wanting or needing in a phone. The things that it is missing for me is a few apps that I would like to have. The phone itself operates incredibly smooth and fast. It takes phenominal pictures. I love my phone.

    Making a decision between the Icon, the 930, or the 1520 is again subjective to the individual. I enjoyed my 1520. The size, while very large for a phone, didn't always feel that way. What I found though was that I was always concerned about its care. There are no really durable cases for the phone in my opinion and the screen always seemed subject to damage. I never had a thing happen to that phone, but the worry was there for me.

    The Icon and 930 have a screen size that was more in my "comfort zone". They both operate extremely well and I never expierenced any hiccups or such with them. I sold my Icon though as I am not on Verizon and despite my best efforts I couldn't get MMS to work for me. The 930 is great with the one notable exception being that it lacks the bands necessary for LTE here in the US. I find that H+ moves at a similiar speed though and do not miss LTE. One added feature on the 930 is the pedometer function too if that is of any use to you.
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    05-27-2015 01:47 PM
  24. sinime's Avatar
    I am sick of dealing with a repair shop trying to fix my 1520 screen for the past 4 months and ordered a 930 (ATT) which should come in this Friday... So my opinion would be to go the route of the 930/icon and stay away from the 1520. It (1520) always felt too big (and I have big hands).
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    05-27-2015 02:15 PM
  25. bo_woods's Avatar
    If anyone can find you the best deal on a device it is worldspy99. I'm too embarrassed to post on the open forum just how low a price he found me on a seller refurbished Lumia 830 RM-983 that looks and works MINT. Other users might get upset that the deal is over and gone at the rdiculously low price I paid... FWIW I think $200 is cheap for a 1520.
    I was one of the people who missed out on this, if we are talking about the same deal that is.. The 830 was <$150 that I'm talking about. Wordspy99 shared it with me on one of my old threads...
    05-27-2015 02:15 PM
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