Why Microsoft is using old Snapdragon processors

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Why Microsoft is using old snapdragon processor ( such as old snapdragon 200 instead of snapdragon 210 on lumia 540, old snapdragon 400 instead of new snapdragon 410 in Lumia 640) . Which processors do you think that Lumia 740 and 840 would support? I expect Snapdragon 610 processor for Lumia 740 and Snapdragon 620 processor for Lumia 840 would be great? What do you think ? And I have heard Snapdragon 615 processor heats a lot and not so nice performance giving mid range processor? Should Lumia Smartphones skip this Snapdragon 615 processor in mid range smartphones?
 

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Differences in terms of performance between Lumias with improved processors such as SD210 and SD410 wouldn't be as noticeable as on Android devices, but the devices would be more expensive.

Using outdated hardware that works very well with Windows Phone software makes sense. That's why low-end Windows Phone devices are so cheap. Microsoft is targeting countries of the Third World, such as India and Pakistan with cheap dual-sim devices.

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On the other hand, there are people who care just about specs ;-)
 

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Because windows does need the latest hardware to run the os efficiently. And the older specs keep costs down. It all helps people interested in buying a cheap entry level device to try the os out
 

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They've probably had these phones built for a while. Or atleast designed and waiting to be built.

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And Microsoft charges the money comparable to respective Android counterpart Phones first, only later to reduce the Lumia smartphones price to 1/2 to 1/3 of the original price at which the Lumias were launched. Ironic....
 

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^ It's called business. That's pretty much standard practice for everything everywhere. If you have a phone hardware division regularly bleeding hundreds of millions, it's only reasonable to try and reduce those losses to some extent.
I think MS not being able to commit to purchasing 10 million units of SoC x likely also contributes to other OEMs being serviced first.
 
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you absolutely right a5cent it's a business......
Many people in developing countries eg. south Asian countries like India ,Pakistan,bangladesh, shri lanka even doesn't know the fact that snapdragon 200 vs snapdragon 400 have differences.....in terms of gpu and video codec supports etc. They just know the fact that both have 1.2 ghz quad core....they only care about spec. Numbers and Microsoft targeting this low end market...and ms is noticeably popular here..
 

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But, I think that Microsoft Mobile shouldn't repeat using old Snapdragon processors in upcoming Lumia Devices( 7**, 8**, 9** and 9**XL ) because in tech world everybody criticized the Lumia 1520, and *30 Lumia smartphones (made by Nokia ) due to their use old Snapdragon processors use, and this makes bad impression of Lumia smartphones being last in the Mobile Tech Race Ship
 

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It's ok for Low range smartphones, but not an excuse for mid range and high end smartphones. And Microsoft Lumia is not popular in South Asian countries, though people here only care about specs number.
 

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But, I think that Microsoft Mobile shouldn't repeat using old Snapdragon processors in upcoming Lumia Devices( 7**, 8**, 9** and 9**XL ) because in tech world everybody criticized the Lumia 1520, and *30 Lumia smartphones (made by Nokia ) due to their use old Snapdragon processors use, and this makes bad impression of Lumia smartphones being last in the Mobile Tech Race Ship

The SD800 was not old when they came out. There was nothing newer besides the 801 which was a marginal difference.

Also, it takes months to test hardware. They aren't going to flippantly swap SoC just cause one with a 5% performance improvement just came out.

Those phones were actually the closest Windows Phones have ever been to being "cutting edge".

And we already know the upcoming Flagship will have the SD810, which is also the newest Qualcomm SoC available.

If there were any phones to complain about, it was the 920/925/928/1020 devices.

It wasn't that long ago Windows Phones had SINGLE core processors. Single core...

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The SD800 was not old when they came out. There was nothing newer besides the 801 which was a marginal difference.

Also, it takes months to test hardware. They aren't going to flippantly swap SoC just cause one with a 5% performance improvement just came out.

Those phones were actually the closest Windows Phones have ever been to being "cutting edge".

And we already know the upcoming Flagship will have the SD810, which is also the newest Qualcomm SoC available.

If there were any phones to complain about, it was the 920/925/928/1020 devices.

It wasn't that long ago Windows Phones had SINGLE core processors. Single core...

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Same here. agreed with you
 

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In this spec obsessed tech world, windows phone does ok! Android has to have a octo-core just to keep up(widgets and the bloatware)....Samsung your guilty. Just enjoy the phones guys
 

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It's ok for Low range smartphones, but not an excuse for mid range and high end smartphones. And Microsoft Lumia is not popular in South Asian countries, though people here only care about specs number.


Dude that doesn't make sense
Lumia is more popular in low and some mid rangers....as flagship struggles in every part of world.... There is no point about flagships on my post .although your question also doesn't mention on flagship .

Read reviews And device wise surveys. You will find that low range Lumia are more popular. That comparison of sd200 vs.sd400 was just to show that how some people only care about spec. Without understanding some facts. They only think both are 1.2ghz quad core that means both are same... That's not true.

Don't compare windows phone popularity with android or ios it's far behind. Only point to say that, compare wp popularity country by country as of now....or region by region. You didn't understand it correctly.Read recent articles ,in Pakistan wp is more popular than ios and in India Lumia 535 is getting good selling device and Lumia market is more in Asian countries. You should do a little bit homework on it.then You will get well statistics.
 

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Windows Phone doesn't need powerful processors as the OS is already very efficient and fast. My Lumia 735 with 1GB RAM is much more responsive than my LG G3.

The difference between fast and faster isn't going to amount to very much when comparing sleek WP performance against bloated Android.
 

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But, If Microsoft Lumia has to be relevant in smartphones market, they have to give latest hardware, processors, highest quality software, apps and best quality looks and design so that the world would not think that Microsoft Lumia Smartphones are thing of cheap quality and services
 

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As mentioned above, there's a long lead time on chips in terms of hardware development.

It takes a long time to design the phone's hardware and the SOC comes first. You can't really design a new handset and slap whatever current chip is available into it the same way you might do with a desktop setup.
 

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...best quality looks and design so that the world would not think that Microsoft Lumia Smartphones are thing of cheap quality and services

Amen to that. The new flagships coming out better be things of beauty with some really amazing things on offer design wise. Look at the latest galaxy (edge in particular) and the lg g4; they're beautiful. If MS releases a plain ol' slabs similar to icon, etc they will be doomed to failure right out of the gate. They definitely need a "wow factor."
 
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As mentioned above, there's a long lead time on chips in terms of hardware development.

It takes a long time to design the phone's hardware and the SOC comes first. You can't really design a new handset and slap whatever current chip is available into it the same way you might do with a desktop setup.
If Android Phones can use latest Processors why not Windows Mobiles. Being always back in hardware won't be good for Lumia Phones in long term
 

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