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  1. trivishal's Avatar
    Why Microsoft is using old snapdragon processor ( such as old snapdragon 200 instead of snapdragon 210 on lumia 540, old snapdragon 400 instead of new snapdragon 410 in Lumia 640) . Which processors do you think that Lumia 740 and 840 would support? I expect Snapdragon 610 processor for Lumia 740 and Snapdragon 620 processor for Lumia 840 would be great? What do you think ? And I have heard Snapdragon 615 processor heats a lot and not so nice performance giving mid range processor? Should Lumia Smartphones skip this Snapdragon 615 processor in mid range smartphones?
    07-02-2015 06:25 AM
  2. Roland Schlangen's Avatar
    Who cares? As long as the range of lumia's perform well?
    07-02-2015 06:54 AM
  3. Martsicky's Avatar
    Differences in terms of performance between Lumias with improved processors such as SD210 and SD410 wouldn't be as noticeable as on Android devices, but the devices would be more expensive.

    Using outdated hardware that works very well with Windows Phone software makes sense. That's why low-end Windows Phone devices are so cheap. Microsoft is targeting countries of the Third World, such as India and Pakistan with cheap dual-sim devices.

    ...
    On the other hand, there are people who care just about specs ;-)
    07-02-2015 07:07 AM
  4. Sedp23's Avatar
    Because windows does need the latest hardware to run the os efficiently. And the older specs keep costs down. It all helps people interested in buying a cheap entry level device to try the os out
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    07-02-2015 07:12 AM
  5. Blacklac's Avatar
    They've probably had these phones built for a while. Or atleast designed and waiting to be built.

    Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
    07-02-2015 09:45 AM
  6. trivishal's Avatar
    And Microsoft charges the money comparable to respective Android counterpart Phones first, only later to reduce the Lumia smartphones price to 1/2 to 1/3 of the original price at which the Lumias were launched. Ironic....
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    07-06-2015 03:42 AM
  7. a5cent's Avatar
    ^ It's called business. That's pretty much standard practice for everything everywhere. If you have a phone hardware division regularly bleeding hundreds of millions, it's only reasonable to try and reduce those losses to some extent.
    I think MS not being able to commit to purchasing 10 million units of SoC x likely also contributes to other OEMs being serviced first.
    Last edited by a5cent; 07-06-2015 at 06:15 AM.
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    07-06-2015 05:27 AM
  8. pureview_lvr's Avatar
    you absolutely right a5cent it's a business......
    Many people in developing countries eg. south Asian countries like India ,Pakistan,bangladesh, shri lanka even doesn't know the fact that snapdragon 200 vs snapdragon 400 have differences.....in terms of gpu and video codec supports etc. They just know the fact that both have 1.2 ghz quad core....they only care about spec. Numbers and Microsoft targeting this low end market...and ms is noticeably popular here..
    07-06-2015 05:53 AM
  9. trivishal's Avatar
    But, I think that Microsoft Mobile shouldn't repeat using old Snapdragon processors in upcoming Lumia Devices( 7**, 8**, 9** and 9**XL ) because in tech world everybody criticized the Lumia 1520, and *30 Lumia smartphones (made by Nokia ) due to their use old Snapdragon processors use, and this makes bad impression of Lumia smartphones being last in the Mobile Tech Race Ship
    07-06-2015 11:56 AM
  10. trivishal's Avatar
    It's ok for Low range smartphones, but not an excuse for mid range and high end smartphones. And Microsoft Lumia is not popular in South Asian countries, though people here only care about specs number.
    07-06-2015 11:59 AM
  11. Shobin Drogan's Avatar
    Who cares? As long as the range of lumia's perform well?
    People who do proper research before buying phones cares. It's not about what's enough, it's about future proofing the phones.
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    07-06-2015 12:01 PM
  12. Blacklac's Avatar
    But, I think that Microsoft Mobile shouldn't repeat using old Snapdragon processors in upcoming Lumia Devices( 7**, 8**, 9** and 9**XL ) because in tech world everybody criticized the Lumia 1520, and *30 Lumia smartphones (made by Nokia ) due to their use old Snapdragon processors use, and this makes bad impression of Lumia smartphones being last in the Mobile Tech Race Ship
    The SD800 was not old when they came out. There was nothing newer besides the 801 which was a marginal difference.

    Also, it takes months to test hardware. They aren't going to flippantly swap SoC just cause one with a 5% performance improvement just came out.

    Those phones were actually the closest Windows Phones have ever been to being "cutting edge".

    And we already know the upcoming Flagship will have the SD810, which is also the newest Qualcomm SoC available.

    If there were any phones to complain about, it was the 920/925/928/1020 devices.

    It wasn't that long ago Windows Phones had SINGLE core processors. Single core...

    Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
    07-06-2015 03:33 PM
  13. pureview_lvr's Avatar
    The SD800 was not old when they came out. There was nothing newer besides the 801 which was a marginal difference.

    Also, it takes months to test hardware. They aren't going to flippantly swap SoC just cause one with a 5% performance improvement just came out.

    Those phones were actually the closest Windows Phones have ever been to being "cutting edge".

    And we already know the upcoming Flagship will have the SD810, which is also the newest Qualcomm SoC available.

    If there were any phones to complain about, it was the 920/925/928/1020 devices.

    It wasn't that long ago Windows Phones had SINGLE core processors. Single core...

    Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
    Same here. agreed with you
    07-07-2015 07:52 AM
  14. stevemind's Avatar
    In this spec obsessed tech world, windows phone does ok! Android has to have a octo-core just to keep up(widgets and the bloatware)....Samsung your guilty. Just enjoy the phones guys
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    07-07-2015 08:13 AM
  15. pureview_lvr's Avatar
    It's ok for Low range smartphones, but not an excuse for mid range and high end smartphones. And Microsoft Lumia is not popular in South Asian countries, though people here only care about specs number.
    Dude that doesn't make sense
    Lumia is more popular in low and some mid rangers....as flagship struggles in every part of world.... There is no point about flagships on my post .although your question also doesn't mention on flagship .

    Read reviews And device wise surveys. You will find that low range Lumia are more popular. That comparison of sd200 vs.sd400 was just to show that how some people only care about spec. Without understanding some facts. They only think both are 1.2ghz quad core that means both are same... That's not true.

    Don't compare windows phone popularity with android or ios it's far behind. Only point to say that, compare wp popularity country by country as of now....or region by region. You didn't understand it correctly.Read recent articles ,in Pakistan wp is more popular than ios and in India Lumia 535 is getting good selling device and Lumia market is more in Asian countries. You should do a little bit homework on it.then You will get well statistics.
    07-07-2015 08:31 AM
  16. EBUK's Avatar
    Windows Phone doesn't need powerful processors as the OS is already very efficient and fast. My Lumia 735 with 1GB RAM is much more responsive than my LG G3.

    The difference between fast and faster isn't going to amount to very much when comparing sleek WP performance against bloated Android.
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    07-07-2015 09:16 AM
  17. trivishal's Avatar
    But, If Microsoft Lumia has to be relevant in smartphones market, they have to give latest hardware, processors, highest quality software, apps and best quality looks and design so that the world would not think that Microsoft Lumia Smartphones are thing of cheap quality and services
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    07-07-2015 10:40 AM
  18. Pete's Avatar
    As mentioned above, there's a long lead time on chips in terms of hardware development.

    It takes a long time to design the phone's hardware and the SOC comes first. You can't really design a new handset and slap whatever current chip is available into it the same way you might do with a desktop setup.
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    07-07-2015 10:55 AM
  19. Somerichs's Avatar
    ...best quality looks and design so that the world would not think that Microsoft Lumia Smartphones are thing of cheap quality and services
    Amen to that. The new flagships coming out better be things of beauty with some really amazing things on offer design wise. Look at the latest galaxy (edge in particular) and the lg g4; they're beautiful. If MS releases a plain ol' slabs similar to icon, etc they will be doomed to failure right out of the gate. They definitely need a "wow factor."
    Last edited by Somerichs; 07-07-2015 at 04:32 PM. Reason: typos
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    07-07-2015 10:55 AM
  20. trivishal's Avatar
    As mentioned above, there's a long lead time on chips in terms of hardware development.

    It takes a long time to design the phone's hardware and the SOC comes first. You can't really design a new handset and slap whatever current chip is available into it the same way you might do with a desktop setup.
    If Android Phones can use latest Processors why not Windows Mobiles. Being always back in hardware won't be good for Lumia Phones in long term
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    07-07-2015 11:12 AM
  21. pureview_lvr's Avatar
    If Android Phones can use latest Processors why not Windows Mobiles. Being always back in hardware won't be good for Lumia Phones in long term
    As its all about os requirements.
    Windows phone really doesn't need powerful spec. Sheet
    And have you find any problems with windows phone performance using current processors which are snapdragon 200,400,800 and previous s4 soc.
    Regarding smoothness, stability ,app loading time...have you found any big issues. Its all about need of hardware to particular os and it fulfil wp requirement.

    WP os designed in that way as it need minimum hardware......and we seen from 2-3 years its performance is even better than android in terms of smoothness.

    Android is bloated and it needs too much ram and processing power to perform well....and its hardware requirement is more than wp.
    And Microsoft is intelligent they know exactly which os they made and how to execute it in particular hardware.

    Nothing too much in it. LOL
    07-07-2015 12:02 PM
  22. tgp's Avatar
    As mentioned above, there's a long lead time on chips in terms of hardware development.

    It takes a long time to design the phone's hardware and the SOC comes first. You can't really design a new handset and slap whatever current chip is available into it the same way you might do with a desktop setup.
    If Android Phones can use latest Processors why not Windows Mobiles. Being always back in hardware won't be good for Lumia Phones in long term
    This reply was my first thought Pete when I read your post. Why can Samsung, LG, and other OEMs utilize the latest SoC, but not Nokia/Microsoft Mobile? Do they not have the same lead time?
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    07-07-2015 12:04 PM
  23. kklemn's Avatar
    well, for the bottom end range it's quite simple: i bet that 99% of people who buys low end mobile phone doesn't care what is under the hood. what matters is how it looks, how fluid it is, camera, battery life and apps. Therefore to make low end phones with latest CPUs and with 25% added to the price is dumb.

    However on the high end they have quite a mess... nokia used to introduce phones in 1st half of the year. it's roughly half a year after introduction of new CPUs. that means a little cheaper units, and more time to prepare the hardware to be completely compatible. but the downside is, that enthusiasts that buy high end device rather wait for other vendors to introduce new phones with newer CPUs... i think that MS is planning on changing the strategy to release new high ends at the same time as samsung and apple does.
    07-07-2015 12:11 PM
  24. colinkiama's Avatar
    If Android Phones can use latest Processors why not Windows Mobiles. Being always back in hardware won't be good for Lumia Phones in long term
    1) Phones made by other OEMS on windows phone use those processors.
    2) Windows Phone needs to be optimised to use new processors. There Microsoft needs to update the OS to support more chipsets.
    3) Microsoft themselves are making the most put of the current chipsets they have now (sensor core, hey cortana, lumia camera 5.0 and even the dual core s4 phones getting Windows 10) what's the point of using a new processor if there really aren't going to be any new features that come with it. It would just be faster. That's it. That's probably why Microsoft is waiting for Windows 10 to release the flagships because only the 810 able to handle continuum well.
    My advice for you now is but from another OEM now or getting a Windows 10 device from Microsoft
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    07-07-2015 12:32 PM
  25. Rezelius's Avatar
    While I don't disagree that Windows Phone can run on less powerful processors than what Android requires, I do think Microsoft needs to put more effort into what they present to the consumer. A majority of consumers don't even know what the specs mean, they just "know" that bigger numbers means better because that is what they are told.

    While I don't have any issue with the lower end Lumias carrying an older model processor, the Flagship phones should be carrying the latest and greatest if for no other reason than to "keep up with the Jones". As Windows fans, we KNOW what the platform is capable of, but the average consumer buys what they are used to and unless there is some sort of "Shiny" aspect to new Lumias, I don't know how they expect to grow their userbase.
    07-07-2015 02:42 PM
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